The mortal gods

Post » Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:10 pm

The concept of mantling the being Lorkhan and Akatosh by Tiber Septim and Zurin Arctus are well known aspects of TES lore. In edition you have the void echo Sheogorath and Jyggalag mantled by Arden-Sul, and possibly the player character. In edition there is the Tribunal, and Dagoth Ur who were once mortals who achieved god hood with power of Lorkhan's heart. Mannimarco used the Mantella which is a substitute for Lorkhan's heart though not being a substitute allowed him only partial success. There is also Tosh Raka who has seemed to mantle Akatosh though the circumstances and possible players of that mantling are unknown.

Thus a common thread of mortals becoming gods involves either the process of recreating the Enantiomorph of Lorkhan ad Akatosh complete with removal of ones heart/life force. The other involves using the heart of the enantiomorph to become a god. Vivec gaining of CHIM seems to to counter this however it was Lorkhan who showed how to achieve CHIM by failing at it.
http://www.imperial-library.info/content/more-psijic-endeavor
The world you stand on is said to be the first attempt at chim. It is also admittedly the most famous. That it was choreographed by Lorkhan and ultimately failed is well-documented, but whether or not this failure was intentional is still disputed.


Thus the question arises, can one walk like the other gods, until the gods walk like you. Could someone mantle Dagon, or possibly Magnus. Perhaps more importantly has someone already done so.
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Post » Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:01 pm

It helps me to think of the gods as gravity wells. To mantle, your identity is crushed by the mass - or transience - of a highly evolved ideal, and you are integrated within the god's complexion. You still derive some qualities from your old person, but you are now "the god." There's an Akatosh similar to Shezarr, in the Sumursets. Then, there's the Akatosh of Skyrim, which is a destroyer. There's the Akatosh of Po Tun, which seems to have had some beef with Cyrodiil's Akatosh, because it wants to conquer Tamriel. There are instances of mantling, without the Enantiomorph. The Selective purged much of the elder taint from the Eight, creating the Imperial Pantheon. Mankar Camoran's Commentaries call the faithful to mantle the Magna-Ge, tearing holes in the barrier, for Dagon to re enter. Effectively becoming Dagon, and the new era of Revolt.

If that helps your thinking.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:07 am

Could someone mantle Dagon, or possibly Magnus.
Magnus (Magus): The god of sorcery, Magnus withdrew from the creation of the world at the last second, though it cost him dearly. What is left of him on the world is felt and controlled by mortals as magic. One story says that, while the idea was thought up by Lorkhan, it was Magnus who created the schematics and diagrams needed to construct the mortal plane. He is sometimes represented by an astrolabe, a telescope, or, more commonly, a staff. Cyrodilic legends say he can inhabit the bodies of powerful magicians and lend them his power. Associated with Zurin Arctus, the Underking.
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Post » Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:44 pm

More importantly, once the gods step in your stride, can you break? It's to your own benefit not to mantle uncertainty.
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