The most powerful mage : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:44 pm

Well that depends where Lost: of the Ring is broad casted. In Europe Gandalf would simply take off his robe and use it with his paddle to create a mast and sail. Then have a magical breeze blow him towards land.
In America he'd be screwed because he's not allowed to take his robe off on TV. Though in that case a mysterious dolphin might come and push his canoe to land for reasons that won't be explained for atleast another fifty episodes.

Either way it has some sort of cool. Spirit Travel on the other hand just won't cut it, just look at the jumper movie, I've never heard a thing about it after it's mass advertisemant campaign stopped.

I suppose he'd be able to summon a Polar Bear and ride it to nearest civilisation whence he got to land?

Ack you're right! So Hollywood wins again! There's no room for good television here!

*Spirit travels away, in disgust*

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:10 am

I suppose he'd be able to summon a Polar Bear and ride it to nearest civilisation whence he got to land?

Ack you're right! So Hollywood wins again! There's no room for good television here!

*Spirit travels away, in disgust*

Afterall, SOMEBODY *MIGHT* see latoya Jackson's nipble! :shocking:

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:35 am

Afterall, SOMEBODY *MIGHT* see latoya Jackson's nipble! :shocking:

You mean Janet?

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 1:49 pm

You mean Janet?

:banghead:

Yes. Oh well. Nobody keeps track of any of the Jacksons except for wacko Jacko anyway.

But again-- If gandalf took of his grey wizard robes, somebody could see his DANGLY BITS! OH NOES! We cant have that!! :ahhh: (I mean, all the homophobics in the country would feel OFFENDED!)

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:42 am

Hence Gandalf is the coolest and therefor the most powerfull mage.

Na, Gandalf isn't allowed to use his power, he's too much of a goody-two-shoes who follows all the rules... heck, he can barely beat a Balrog. Dagoth Ur'd dominate a Balrog...

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:02 am

I'm sorry to say, but all of you are wrong. The most powerful mage if the Wizard of Oz. You can't argue with a giant head.

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:17 am

I'm sorry to say, but all of you are wrong. The most powerful mage if the Wizard of Oz. You can't argue with a giant head.

Then in Vivec fashion...

"Pay no attention to the Mer behind the heart--------"

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:17 am

Na, Gandalf isn't allowed to use his power, he's too much of a goody-two-shoes who follows all the rules... heck, he can barely beat a Balrog. Dagoth Ur'd dominate a Balrog...

Not if the Balrog had reflect!

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:30 pm

Not if the Balrog had reflect!

Random question.....

The tribunal spent nearly their whole reigns after the Dunmeri transformation;

So, why do the tribunal use fire magic as their primary attacks? Wouldnt it make more sense, given the internal political strife inside the dunmeri population, to use FROST magic?

Or are we supposed to believe that they use fire magick because of the "Nord invasion threat", and such?

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:24 am

Random question.....
The tribunal spent nearly their whole reigns after the Dunmeri transformation;

So, why do the tribunal use fire magic as their primary attacks? Wouldnt it make more sense, given the internal political strife inside the dunmeri population, to use FROST magic?

Or are we supposed to believe that they use fire magick because of the "Nord invasion threat", and such?

ALMSIVI never fought against a Dunmer enemy. Why should they, though? It's always been some obscure metaphor of impending doom, or a Daedra that they have fought against.

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:49 am

Random question.....
The tribunal spent nearly their whole reigns after the Dunmeri transformation;

So, why do the tribunal use fire magic as their primary attacks? Wouldnt it make more sense, given the internal political strife inside the dunmeri population, to use FROST magic?

Or are we supposed to believe that they use fire magick because of the "Nord invasion threat", and such?

See, your real question should be, why aren't they using Jon Irenicus insane-o-MK spells that don't even exist for the player to cast? Like turning all the vertices of your mother's fairy tales into swarmfoam war fractals that devour your possipoints?

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:53 pm

Who is the most powerful?

Maiq the Liar, because he told me so.

...

What?

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:26 pm

I'm sorry to say, but all of you are wrong. The most powerful mage if the Wizard of Oz. You can't argue with a giant head.

Why yes, yes I am... :chaos:

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:15 am

Who is the most powerful?

Maiq the Liar, because he told me so.

...

What?

It's not like he would lie, would he?

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:29 am

Yea, but outside of a small following of fans, who even knows who those are.

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The concept of 'the most powerful' is something that does not belong into Lore. At least I like to think so because a level of power must be measured some way, but the only mesurement avaible so far are stats. Which aside from obviously being purely gameplay related and having little bearing on Lore, are mostly unknown.

So what this discussion will turn out into isn't a argument about who is stronger, but an argument about who is cooler. Gandalf being the most fleshed out character, he's obviously the coolest because the list of all the cool stuff that he has done will be bigger.

Hence Gandalf is the coolest and therefor the most powerfull mage.

No, this is from a lore standpoint, not stats in game.

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:17 pm

Perhaps it is, but Proweler's point still stands. We don't have a really soundproof way of "measuring" a mage's power. The only thing, from a lore-standpoint, we have to go on are the various texts that chronicle the deeds of all these mages.

However, these texts never reveal the full extenct of any mage's power. Finding out which mage is the most poweful is purely guesswork. That is why most of these threads devolve into a "who's cooler" thread.

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:09 pm

1.Divayth Fyr - if only hasedoki challenged him in his great serch.
2.Hasedoki - how could you forget him he was pretty much unchallanged, incase you dont know this wizard serched the whole of tamrial to find a better wizard, he never did
3.Sotha sil - just brillient i hate amalexia :spotted owl:

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:13 pm

I agree with Word Merchant's assessment of those men, and agree that it is hard to come to a consensus.

I would like to make mention of Borissean. I don't think he's the most powerful, but he deserves an honorable mention. For one, he's a Redguard, who are naturally physically-abled and tend not to make the best mages. Second, he sells spells from every single college, with most of them being master-level. He has to be considered at least one of the top mages in Cyrodiil alone.

~TK.R

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:58 am

As I've said before, Syrabane was a very powerful mage. You'd have to be extremely powerful to have saved the world with the Warlock's Ring.

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:14 am

oh crap how could i forget
my new top 10 Mages
1.Kagrenac
2.Divayth Fyr
3.Syrabane
4.Magnus
5.Hasedoki
6.Zurin Arctus
7.Sotha sil
8.Phynaster
9.Mannimarco
10.Jager Thorn :spotted owl:

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:05 pm

Why is everybody hatin' on Phynaster, huh??? You have to be one magnificent son of a [censored] to MAKE A RACE LIVE LONGER BY A WAY OF WALKING!!! Screw all that other crap about takin' power from gods and all that other BS; I'm stickin' with the guy who didn't even do anything magickal that propelled him to fame.

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:04 pm

It's all opinion anyway. Why mages? Why not warriors or thieves?

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 7:40 am

Oh, I was just being sarcastic; I feel its a pretty unanswerable question. The only reason I mentioned Phynastar is because I knew no one would really mention him.

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:18 pm

Why is everybody hatin' on Phynaster, huh??? You have to be one magnificent son of a [censored] to MAKE A RACE LIVE LONGER BY A WAY OF WALKING!!! Screw all that other crap about takin' power from gods and all that other BS; I'm stickin' with the guy who didn't even do anything magickal that propelled him to fame.

I'm sure all the races knew how to walk like that. Phyanster probably just relearned it.

» Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:49 pm

What Syrabane do again?

We all know he saved the world with a stupid ring, but what's the details to that feat?