At best the small amount of scouting troops would be. Not the entire NCR. If they ever made it to DC by force they would control most of the United States.

There is nooooooo way the NCR is going anywhere near the East coast BOS. The NCR is soooo boring. I don't understand why anyone likes them? The BOS is way cooler.

The EBos are uncorrupted white knights in the savage wastelands. They are destined to be destroyed by there own morals. You have to be mean, dirty, and at least moraly gray to make in a place as dark as this setting. Thats why groups like the NCR, and the Legion... hell even the Fiends/raiders flurish.

If the raiders where not mindless bloodthrusty savages, and the Enclave had really viewed the BoS as a threat then all it would have taken is 1 man dedicated enough to die for his cause to bring the whole place down. Elder Lyons is to trusting... 1 man could easily earn his trust, and murder both Lyons. Odds are the person would not live through it, but he would at least assassinate one.

Thats depend,

Moore point of view: KILL THEM ALL
Crocker and Hsu point of view: We can reach to a good deal

Because they have total domination in California and nobody can mess with them in their territory?

Because they have a major role than the Brotherhood in the West Coast?

Because if you dont cooperate with them, you are Lanius [censored]?

NCR will never get to the East coast because Oliver will just wait and see if they expand towards them.

It's not up to him its up to Kimball and NCR Councel. NCR seems bent on moving East, they even started getting the railroads working. If not for Caesar who knows how far they would have expanded.

What if Kimball got killed in Hoover Dam?

Its 2000 miles it will take hundreds of years likely for either the NCR of teh EBoS to expand there empires to each coast.

May I suggest a rephrase: its up to the NCR's duly elected representatives, not its military officers.

The East coast BOS aren't going to be destroyed. The west probably & I would pick good people who are struggling to survive over corrupt powerful people any-day. Also if Lyons died then they'd just pick the next best person.

Unless the NCR figures out mass-production of Vertibirds, there's no way in hell they'd make it to the East Coast before the BOS rebuilds Liberty Prime and builds a bigger army from Wastelanders, along with stockpiling Enclave technology. It'd be down to a grudge match between the Lone Wanderer from Vault 101 and The Courier anyway.

I was joking about General wait and see
But in all seriousness the NCR is almost assured to collapse in 3 out of 4 endings of N.V. and the BOS has a bright new future ahead so it probably won't ever happed.

I think that the EBOS would pwn. The people you talk to in Vegas say that the WBOS is better trained and equipped but are just outnumbered.

The EBOS recruit locals (A.K.A. numbers) and have fully functional enclave level tech and make their own top shelf stuff (Tesla Cannon). By the time that the they would meet the EBOS would have had decades if not centuries of technical and military advancement.

The same with the NCR, they also recruit people, (most of their members are green in fact) they have Enclave level tech too (Navarro, without mentioning Sierra Army Depot) and even if their dont develop their own guns, they have the Van Graff and the Gun Runners



Even if they dont win at the Hoover Dam battle, that doesnt mean that the NCR will fall, they have their own territory in California, also, if they want to go to DC, they need to trepass the Legion main base, not mentioning other faction that exist in the Fallout Universe

And don't forget about reverse engineering, sacrifice a few high tech weapons and take em apart. You should be able to figure out what makes them work soon enough and then you can start production of your own version. Not sure why I think that's Southern though, might have something to do with their ability to fix everything with duct tape.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s, what's next?

Airline companies?
Insurance companies?
Call centers?
Help desks?
Bank managers that still get a bonus despite causing tremendous losses?
Ludicrous senate subcommittees to investigate violence in games?
Parking fees?
Airports that have to close for the day when there's an inch of snow?
Door to door encyclopedia salesmen?

And the list goes on and on, yet I always thought the Legion were supposed to be the bad guys

I like to think there's only one railroad, which was (before powder gangers) used to supply the troops in the Mojave.

They wouldn't fall right off, but they'd be in really bad shape. Morale would be at an all time low and they obviously needed the resources of the Mojave, especially Hoover Dam which is one of the primary reasons that they're in the region. 95% of Hoover Dam's electricity was being used for all NCR territory including territory in California, if I remember correctly.

NCR is getting the rail roads working!. They have a monorail at Mccarran. Whole point of the Powder Gangers "The Powder Gangers were prisoners brought into Nevada by the NCR to rebuild the railroads." DC might be a crap hole but NCR/West Coast is not. They have been rebuilding for close to 80 years and so have other factionns NCR annexed.

I think NCR railroads are a given, at least in "Safe" areas. They're a very efficient way of getting stuff around.

I'd say that one of two things would happen. Either they would make peace, or war. Before that though, there is no doubt in my mind that Lyons would attempt to contact them first. Either he speaking to them while they mass at his front gate through a loudspeaker, send in a squad of Knights, or send a lone messenger (possibly the Lone Wanderer assuming he didn't blow up their citadel/was still in the Capital Wasteland). He'd offer peace no doubt. And that is if the NCR didn't want to make peace with them in the first place. If they had scouted the area enough they would also have come across other communities. Megaton citizens telling them of the Brotherhood of Steel delivering water to them, free of charge. Might not have always had the right amount of water or been on time, and likely refuse to give more no matter how desperately they plead. But that doesn't change the fact that they are giving away water at various levels of personal loss without asking for anything in return. Rivet City protected by the Brotherhood. Mutant populations likely decreasing, if not completely wiped out by then. Raiders and Slavers less overt about their work, if there at all, seeing as it doesn't seem too far fetched for the Brotherhood to start a campaign against them after the mutants were reduced to a manageable size. All this with a giant finger pointing back towards to the Brotherhood, with the word "Savior" practically scrawled across their foreheads.

After the NCR realize this, they'd either agree to living happily side by side (though likely planning on absorbing the Brotherhood as their own, because we all know they just love love love being in charge), negotiate with the Brotherhood to either take control from them or just openly absorb them, or if worst came to worst, flat out attack them regardless due to an inherent hatred of the Brotherhood from past experiences. If they fought, it's likely the Brotherhood would end up victorious one way or another. I don't think it's likely that the NCRs troopers would stand and fight when they see a giant metallic robot walking forward, spewing out things about killing it's enemies, and shooting laser beams from it's head. The shock from that alone could possibly send NCR running back west within a few days. If that failed, the Brotherhood have advanced technology and training. The NCR have a few pieces of downgraded power armor and some salvaged laser and plasma weaponry, but the Brotherhood can likely produce their own armor by now. In Fallout 3 you can hear a scribe talking about them nearing the completion of MK II Recon armor, and that it should be expected done in a few weeks. And that was 4 years ago, just roughly a month after taking the purifier back from the Enclave. By now they may have fully operational MK III power armors, and be able to mass produce them and outfit every member of the Brotherhood with it. Not to mention them all ready speaking about upgrading the laser rifles they have and investigating the plasma weapons to see what could be done with them. If they could get a giant robot working in just a few years, there's no doubt they could create some new weapons or armors in 4. Longer even, who knows how long it would take NCR to scout the area and move their army there.

If by some miracle the NCR does manage to defeat the Brotherhood, I would say it's likely that the Capital Wasteland itself would be up in arms with rebellion at the NCR. I don't see them easily accepting NCR taxes and laws. The Mojave didn't want to. It would only be more difficult since the NCR would replace free protection and care, and likely less effective at that. Power armor and energy weapons likely scare away, and kill, more threats then some ragtag body armor and semi automatic rifles. That would likely end in entire communities being wiped away, since the NCR would likely have to strike back out of self defense. By the time NCR does finally manage to get the Capital Wasteland calmed down, I could see any survivors from the Brotherhood striking from behind. They've proven themselves willing to sacrifice their selves if it was the only way to achieve victory. They mobilized on a moments notice when it became apparent that waiting any longer could mean the Enclave would control the purifier. And they sent what, 6 or 7 men to do it, along with that robot. Why wouldn't they send out the rest to swiftly wipe out any NCR left while they were busy fighting the townspeople they wanted to gain control of?

And one could argue that the Lone Wanderer could likely play a massive role in the events, but I'd rather not get into it. As far as I'm concerned, the Lone Wanderer didn't stick around too long after the events of Fallout 3. Certainly not long enough for the NCR to show up.

Well...erm, that would be quite a long way into the future. The NCR have no logical reason to send scouts all the way to the east coast. It would only be after massive expansion, if they survive that long. They would most likely just absorb the east coast BoS as they would be too powerful for them to handle.

At this moment i think that the East Coast BOS has their own problems (The Outcast, mainly)

Well considering the NCR eventually defeated the BOS (according to Fallout 3:Van Buren), it wouldn’t surprise me that the NCR could easily defeat the Outcast BOS(aka Lyons BOS), simply to a strong numerical advantage, and reinforced supply lines, via the NCR’s railway network.

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