the next emperor

Post » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:38 pm

It's not going to be as easy as just putting a new person in as the new Emperor. Personally I'm sad we didn't see more of the drama concerning the Elder Council after themain quest. I think that would have been just as interesting as the rest of the game's story.

I could easily see this being one of the main focuses of the next game and even if they do appoint a new Emperor I'm sure they won't last long. As for speculation.. I don't think theres much point to it yet. We just don't know enough.
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:07 am

Eh, not when we can't properly discern anything.

Ain't tryin' to be hostile, but it would be better if people were citing true, believable reasons rather than "it wud b mad cool son if vvic was emprer."

And I'm having much more fun waiting to see what TES V holds rather than speculating.
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:23 am

had to mock MINE and aceisking's posts didn't you?

It seems reasonable that he would do so, especially when you two are the only ones that didn't use any kind of punctuation. Generally, posts like that don't come up often in the Lore Forum. Anyway, the idea that Vivec could become Emperor is a very idiotic one, for lack of a better term, indeed.

Without anything to really go on, other than random crap that we're all spewing from our mouths, I don't think that it's really worth the time to post about who will be the next Emperor. But, just to be on topic and not come off as a complete ass...

It will be Fargoth, obviously. (Nevermind the amount of times he's been killed.)
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:22 am

Eh...I hate to sound like an idiot, but...it always clicked in my head that Wulfharth's soul was in the Mantella, mainly because it's stated that the soulgem is used on him and at the time it was easier to process in my head that an avatar of Lorkhan could power the Anumidum better than Arctus' soul could. I feel that, in some weird ass way, the Underking's Heart blasting the crap outta Arctus' somehow made him become the next Underking.

In the end, I find both about equally plausible though.

To Ravager: yeah he does, though I don't remember if he stated that in the interview.

edit: Nope he doesn't. But check these pieces of info:

1. If Nerevar didn't kill a god at Red Mountain...why the hell is he "Godkiller" then?

2. According to The Five Song's spiritual sequel, the Arcturian Heresy, eventually people got confused on who Tiber Septim was, thanks to the Underking's placement in another part of Tamriel, as well as other crap. It was as if Septim was in two different places at once.

3. Like I said, Vehk himself even references events recorded in the Five Songs and the Heresy, most importantly the point where he killed Tiber Septim.

...Yes. He was at Red Mountain.

While as always, this is merely my opinion, I still feel it has much merit.


Vekh does lie as convenient to his enemies and when he believes those around him will harm themselves if he offers them truths they cannot handle. So various people confuse this with an inability or basic unwillingness to tell the truth. I tried the approach to Vekh several ways and discovered that his notes and such that he left out for me when I decided that the best course was to work with him held much merit - and worked well with other literature that I had read and made a lot of sense.

Often when people feel they are attacked they react with lies. Sometimes people who are not being attacked, but believe they or something they value is being attacked, lie too - and they get even worse if you try to tell them more truth.

1. If Nerevar didn't kill a god at Red Mountain...why the hell is he "Godkiller" then?
Maybe that is the 'once and future' thing? Prophetic reference to the Nerevarine who it appears is destined to kill demi-god/s? Though I do not discount Nerevar's having killed a divine being at Red Mountain.

There is only one thing more he might have done. It has been said he killed his best friend, the Dwemer King, but could he also have interfered with / affected the Dwemer Numidium in some way and became part of the cause for its destruction?

That period was so confused it's almost impossible to finally determine what actually occurred and decide where wishful thinking deviates from fact. A fine example of what happens to Lore when conflicting cultures write about the same events = there are many Lores :D


Sotha Sil for Divine Emperor!

(Of course then we'd have a puppet government.)
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:46 am

But both Helseth and his Hlaalu allies know that opposing the Empire won't get you anywhere. Look at Indoril.


It's not a matter of opposing it - more like keeping it in the background to give the dunmers something to hate other than the dunmer next door/clan/house. Better the Empire than Elseth himself in that role, at least from Elseth's perspective.
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:51 am

Varvur Sarethi for Emperor!


Anyway, this topic is kind of pointless. There is no real indication of who is going to be the next emperor. Heck, we don't even know if their will be a new emperor at all.
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:38 am

I think Ocato should be the next emperor. He is already the defacto ruler of Cyrodiil, as the emperor's second, so he should take the throne himself.

Alternativley, get the Mage's Guild to create a Stone-To-Flesh spell so we can get Martin back.
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:46 am

I think Ocato should be the next emperor. He is already the defacto ruler of Cyrodiil, as the emperor's second, so he should take the throne himself.

Alternativley, get the Mage's Guild to create a Stone-To-Flesh spell so we can get Martin back.


The problem is, there's a HUGE difference between being head of the Elder Council, ie. a glorified functionary, and The Emperor. From what I've seen, I sincerely doubt he has either the ambition to actually make a grab for power, or the personal magnetism to succeed. It is doubtful that Uriel VII would have chosen yet another highly ambitious, potentially politically powerful, man to serve as his number two, after the disaster that was Jagar Tharn.
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Post » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:32 pm

I personally think that the Empire will crumble. The provinces will split, becoming split.

I do not think, at this time, that Tamriel will be reunited again for a long time, and this period of chaos will play out over an online server much like WOW.
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:35 am

It will be Fargoth, obviously. (Nevermind the amount of times he's been killed.)

Actually, it is the number of times he has been killed that will give him his claim to the throne! If I remember, ol' Tiber Septim had his throat slit... Fargoth shall use his many deaths to prove that he is the reincarnation of Tiber Septim!
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:55 am

Excessive spam. If there are no further non-frivolous contributions to be made on the topic, it will be closed.
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:52 am

i agree fargoth will be emperor he will have his troops in morrowind kill all those who killed him of course caius would be a better choice since he is a blade
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Post » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:23 pm

Why? It's more fun to have several people claim it, and the empire splinters in the process.

Yeah, maybe a guy from Illinois.


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Post » Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:01 pm

If Martin became the Avatar of Akatosh, and assuming that Martin-who-is-Aka is still sentient and able to act, then it wouldn't be too far-fetched to think that Martin/Aka could reannoint a person as Emperor much as Aka did Alessia way back when.

I mean, if he did it once, then he could do it again. Septim blood is probably no longer necessary.
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:36 am

I do not think, at this time, that Tamriel will be reunited again for a long time, and this period of chaos will play out over an online server much like WOW.

Do you know something about the game ZeniMaxOnline is working on that the rest of us don't. ;)
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:58 am

If Martin became the Avatar of Akatosh, and assuming that Martin-who-is-Aka is still sentient and able to act, then it wouldn't be too far-fetched to think that Martin/Aka could reannoint a person as Emperor much as Aka did Alessia way back when.

I mean, if he did it once, then he could do it again. Septim blood is probably no longer necessary.


That IS interesting. Perhaps that will happen..in Skyrim???

Eh...this speculation is killing me...
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:08 am

The next Emperor wouldn't have to be a Septim at all and will likely be a high ranking general or politician from Cyrodill.
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:48 am

Maybe the Empire will become a republic instead. Perhaps a ruling council would be the best option, as there are no longer any Septims to rule Tamriel.
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:36 am

Septims don't mean jack crap; people forget that eras were started before there were any "Septims" in existence; Akaviri have ran the empire before, even.
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Post » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:47 pm

Hassildor is probably the best of the lot, although Corvus Umbranox would be interesting :)

If the devs wanted a civil war Marius Caro would be a logical choice, and if they were considering some sort of Akaviri colonization/conquest then Narina Carvain would be good.

If Hassildor became Emperor, it would mirror the Potenate's rise to power; a (presumed) vampire taking over after the royal family is killed off.
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:43 am

If Hassildor became Emperor, it would mirror the Potenate's rise to power; a (presumed) vampire taking over after the royal family is killed off.


I don't think Hassildor wants the Ruby Throne. It will be interesting to see how Bethesda addresses the issue in the next game. Having the player character help a general become Emperor, for example, is too close to the plot of "Oblivion" to be used.

I'm assuming that either an ambitious general will try for the throne, or else the next game will be set in a time of anarchy with the former provinces warring against each other. Just speculation though.
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Post » Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:59 pm

You completely forgot about Imperial Legion generals/commanders.

Not one of whom distinguished himself in the recent crisis; the Legion was conspicuous by its absence and impotence. The day was carried by Martin, who is now playing the statue in Don Juan, the Champion of Cyrodiil, who is fated to disappear, Baurus and Jauffre of the Blades, a handful of city guardsmen, and --notably-- Countess Narina Carvain.
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:00 am

Not one of whom distinguished himself in the recent crisis; the Legion was conspicuous by its absence and impotence. The day was carried by Martin, who is now playing the statue in Don Juan, the Champion of Cyrodiil, who is fated to disappear, Baurus and Jauffre of the Blades, a handful of city guardsmen, and --notably-- Countess Narina Carvain.

Most of the Legion appears to be in the other provinces. We don't know what's happening out there aside from a few rumors.
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Post » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:20 pm

They're busy going native, if Morrowind is any indication. In Elsweyr they hire khajiits to clean the camp and scout the villages. Not really a Cyrodiilic force anymore.
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Post » Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:21 am

Having the player character help a general become Emperor, for example, is too close to the plot of "Oblivion" to be used.


True, but having the player involved with the drama associated with this question would be very different. We would finally get some politics back into the game like in Morrowind. It wouldn't even have to take place in Cyrodiil, the Elder Council is spread across the world. This has sown the seeds for a continuing plot in the future games. Wulf's accomplishment was uniting everyone under the empire but in midst of this chaos a lot of that work could be done. If parts of the council disagree they could remove themselves from the empire and become independent.

One thing is for sure, in my opinion. It will take several Emperor's before the Empire becomes a stable force, if it ever becomes stable again.
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