With the kind of thinking that prompted the OP's question, there'd never be any quality games released in the last two or so years of any console's life. For my money, the generations roll when they roll and unless you're a developer that's very early in a game's life cycle, there's generally no impetus to undo what you've done and rebuild it for the next gen.

Nintendo's rumored to be rolling out a new console pretty much every year. Even the year after the Wii came out, people were talking about how there was definitely a Wii model with DVD playback support being rolled out to the market... which wasn't true. They've been going pretty strong since then, but they never really have much weight. Nintendo's not going to release a new console until the Wii's hardware and software sales drop off, and that just isn't happening yet.

Hmmmm... interesting. However, as a Wii owner I can say the problem is not hardware related. It's software related. They seem to release about 1 or 2 playable games a year. The rest is just garbage. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest the next game I buy will be the Zelda game they're theoretically working on. The last one I bought was Super Mario Galaxy 2. Before that... Super Mario Galaxy, if I recall...

Though one thing a PC is terrible at is allowing me to play on my couch using my TV (yeah, yeah... I wouldn't be surprised if there was a cost efficient solution for that... still not interested). The graphics may be better, and the keyboard may be more efficient, and mods sound like a great idea, but I don't want to feel like I'm at work while I'm gaming...

Cost-efficient and easy. It's called "nearly every modern computer and laptop has HDMI-out".

I don't see the next Xbox coming out until 2015. the PS4 will take even longer. And I play TES on PC anyway.

I really doubt the next Xbox or the PS4 are going to take that long. You're basically saying that they'll go a full decade without releasing new consoles. That's pretty much completely unprecedented, with Sony and Microsoft being a couple of the least likely companies to break the pattern.

Inexperience and ignorance breeds false ideas.

I play games on both consoles and my laptop (though mainly all I play on the latter is Morrowind), and I used to be exclusively a console gamer. For the longest time I couldn't imagine myself using a mouse and keyboard for shooting aliens and exploring ancient ruins. And yes, I used to generally assume that building a gaming rig would cost me way more than it'd be worth spending on such a thing.

Of course, the difference is that I don't put nearly as much emphasis on graphics as many of my fellow gamers, on both console and PC. For example, what brought me into PC gaming in the first place was getting myself a nice new laptop to replace my worn-out hunk of junk, and then seeing a copy of Morrowind GOTY Edition for $20 on my way out. I had quit playing the game long ago, on Xbox, and right there, holding a PC I knew could probably handle an eight-year-old game, I couldn't resist the temptation.

But when it comes to many others, whose experience is similarly entirely on consoles, the only incentive they feel to put down the controller and sit down at a computer is the latest and greatest game with the prettiest graphics around. They're not likely to get drawn in by something "dated" like Morrowind or the first Half-Life. And so their argument becomes cost. Get the latest game now on a console, or wait a little while until they can either afford an upgrade or new a graphics card comes out or something. Many would rather get less for less time.

I really hate that term "dated" by the way, it gets applied to so many games that just don't deserve it.

It takes me a couple of minutes to hook up my PC to my HDTV(via HDMI) and set up my keyboard and mouse. And you can use a controller too if you want.

Not hard at all.

Same here, the only problem I have is finding a good spot to put my keyboard :tongue:

Wireless peripherals, HDMI cable. BAM you have your PC gaming on the couch. And you don't feel like you are at work.

I'd be mad but it's not going to happen. The PS3 and X-box 360 will still be able to play the games being developed for atleast 2 or 3 years.

It takes me less than one minute. Carry laptop to television, plug laptop into wall, unplug HDMI cable from PS3 into laptop. I can use the PS3 controllers with it as well, so really there's just no effort involved at all (like, actually less effort than hooking my PS3 up, since that's heavier and it requires a wall outlet).

Computers haven't been terrible at couch gaming for a few years now.

I set up two of http://www.indonesia-furnitures.com/indonesia_furniture/outdoor_coffee_table_and_side/TGF-058_Mini_Square_Folding_Table.jpg, and get a nice comfy chair. Of course, I'd be on the couch if I wanted to use a controller.

Alright I'm gonna set the record straight here..

First of all, every computer that is connected to the internet has viruses. Every single one. If you have internet access, you've got a virus. Doesn't mean it won't get fixed in an instant, doesn't mean it will hurt anything. And it is entirely possible to get one without doing anything stupid. The chances are definitely increased by surfing advlt websites lol, but you can take the best care of that computer and if you're online, you can still get a bad virus.

And gaming computers are not expensive either. Sure if you're a mor... nvm.. if you buy an alienware computer expect to pay a ton of money.... Or, you can buy the parts yourself and build your own (yes.. do it this way). You'll save a ton of money, and have a great computer. It's not hard to put the thing together either. Look for online tutorials to help you out.

However, consoles are not that expensive, especially when you only have to buy one every what? Five, six years? Look at the money you'll spend on upgrades for a computer, and the difference isn't much. No matter what you use, as we get better games, you'll have to shell out more cash to run them, plain and simple.

Now myself personally, own Oblivion on the 360 and the computer. Which do you think I play more? Well you're wrong. I tried the computer and can't stand it. Gotta have a controller, gotta have a tv. Now.. you can get a cord that allows you to hook up your computer right to your television, so that's not a big deal. Unfortunately, when I got my 360 wired controller for my computer.. Oblivion seems to have no easy way of using it. Unlike other games where you can just plug and play, with Oblivion, I would have had to have downloaded some stupid program and spent quite a bit of time trying to map controls to the controller....

Bottom line, I will not play on a mouse and a keyboard, so I continue to play on my xbox. And mods.. well they're nice, but honestly.. personally, I don't think mods are all that great. If the game is good enough as it is, who cares? I was so disappointed about the lack of mods out there. Almost everything is just visual upgrades, not added gameplay, and most of it is a bunch of perverted crap for female characters... ugh. Now I'm not saying there aren't good mods out there.. I'm just saying there's a lot less than I expected there to be, and it wasn't worth messing with the pc over it.
Graphics wise there is a difference, but not enough to matter.. To me anyway. Of course this is coming from a guy who could care less about HD so...

My question is, why would anyone think a console is going to be superior to a computer? A console is a computer.. with less stuff. So how could it ever be better than a gaming computer with more stuff? The only plus the console has, is that with less things in it, that means there's less to go wrong.

Anyway, it's all irrelevant to the post. Will I be mad if they release the next console? No. Not at all. The only reason I was going to buy the next console in the first place was to play the next elder scrolls game. So the fact they they're already releasing it for the 360 is simply incredible to me. Now when they release elder scrolls VI, I'm gonna have to break down and buy whatever I have to in order to run it. Luckily, I don't have to worry about it for awhile.

I tried to read the rest of the post, but I sort of tuned out the minute I read this. Quite probably the most blatantly wrong thing I've ever seen in stated in one of these discussions.

I thought the same here.

Wrong. Just... wrong.



Here's a novel idea: How about NOT having to have the latest and greatest games right when they come out? Hell, there's so many games I need to get caught up on from years past, I could put off Skyrim for a looooong time.

Though I probably won't, because I'm sure it's going to be more enjoyable than a few hours with the first StarCraft, which I've yet to play.

Please don't throw things at me! I'm sorry! I know, I svck...



Oh no, I got it right. Where's my cookie?



I'll admit that many of the high-rated mods over at Planet Elder Scrolls aren't all that great to me, but there are still some great ones that I've had a lot of fun with. i think you jsut need to find the right ones. Or make your own, like me.



Wait, I'm confused now. Are you pro-PC or pro-console? Or either? Or both? I can't tell now.

That "one more year" would more likely turn into two or three more until the devs can figure out how to work with the new technology.

With mem cards and detachable HDD they do

So you are comparing the use of memory cards and detachable HDDs to PC upgrading? Jeez man, you should think twice before posting.

With HDDs you only improve the hard drive storage capacity, which doensn't improve the speed and processing capabilities of the console. When you use a memory card, it's like using a pen-drive. Does a pen-drive makes your PC faster? No it doesnt.

PCs can upgrade their RAM, graphic processing units, central processing units, hard drive capacity, power supply sources, cooling capacity, OS and more. Using detachable HDDs and memory cards is absolutely nothing compared to the PC upgrading capability.

God some of you guys probably love the smell of your own [censored]!

I own all the current systems (PS3, 360, Wii, DS, and have a Gaming laptop) and get this... I enjoy games on EVERY system! I'm not sure why this topic got turned into "my way of playing a certain game is better than your way of playing." I prefer to play Oblivion on my PS3 because of the controller and relaxing on the couch because its a game I play for hours at a time. I like Dragon Age on the PC better than the consoles because it was designed for the PC. All of the other posters had good reasons for choosing one over the other, but its just a matter of preference and my way isn't any better than your way of playing.

Back on topic, I think Beth will push the current consoles to their limit and I believe we will get an awesome game with fewer bugs as a result. I don't foresee the next gen consoles coming out until late 2012/2013 at th earliest.

and far better graphics. and significantly reduced load times, and more controller options. As Oblivion, FO3, and FO:NV all show.


Not gonna comment on the virus" stuff, cause its silly.

In answer to the original post, I will not be mad. Microsoft intends to support the 360 for another 5 years; new Microsoft console won't come out until past 2013, in my opinion.

In answer to the ongoing PC vs Console feud that I am seeing here, I only have this to say: Does it really matter? Seriously, I see this moronic argument all of the time, and they go nowhere.

Guess what, PC users? Console gamers like consoles. Guess what, Console users? PC gamers like PC.

In the end, it doesn't matter which you prefer or which you hate; we are all gamers, and that is the only thing that matters. We shouldn't fight about stuff like this; we should enjoy what we have, and be happy that we can share a common gaming experience across three different platforms.