By the nine divines! My game keeps crashing. : IV

» Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:56 am

Is someone able to help?! Please.

Six years of modding oblivion, six years of experience, six years of joy.

Now this. My game CTD's and I do not know why!

Situation that causes CTD:

Everytime I select a cuirass in the inventory (mostly leather cuirass), may it be after looting a corpse, or selecting the own armor for unequipping it (glass cuirass).

After leaving the inventory (menumode) the game keeps crashing.

I suspected EE, then OR. But the game keeps crashing.

And Im not far into the game.

even if I start a new game, with Alternative Beginnnings as outlaw in the wilderness,

the first corpse with the letter from Baurus, gives me a CTD, whether I click Take All, or just select the leather cuirass, it CTD's

I started a new game because my old game kept crashing after I selected the equipped glass cuirass. I couldnt unequip it anymore.

I use wyre bash, with some mods installed by OBMM (Darnifued UI, MOO, Detailled Terrain, EE, and Cobl)

BOSS is doing my load order with a downloaded masterlist, uptodate from nexus, since GIt doesnt work anymore at the moment.

Please help.

My load order:

Active Mod Files:

Spoiler


00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.36]
02  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
03  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 6.0.6]
04  Fundament.esm  [Version ision]
05  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.4]
06  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
07  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
08  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.8]
**  MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
**  MOBS SI.esp  [Version 2.0]
09  Better Cities .esp  [Version 6.0.5]
++  LoadingScreens.esp
0A  LoadingScreensAddOn.esp
**  LoadingScreensSI.esp
0B  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.36]
0C  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.36]
0D  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.36]
0E  WindowLightingSystem.esp
0F  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
10  ImprovedSigns.esp
11  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
12  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]
13  MigMiscellanea.esp  [Version 1.82]
14  OblivionReloaded.esp
++  OblivionReloadedArenaCombat.esp
15  UnidirectionalAttack.esp
16  DLCHorseArmor.esp
17  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
18  DLCOrrery.esp
19  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
1A  DLCVileLair.esp
1B  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
1C  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
1D  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
1E  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
**  Book Jackets DLC.esp
**  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp
**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
1F  PTArtifacts.esp
20  DLCThievesDen.esp
21  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.14]
22  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.13]
23  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
24  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
25  Creature Diversity.esp
26  Oblivifall - Something's Not Right.esp  [Version 1.0]
27  00RBScribeSupplies02, read summary.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
28  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
29  JolardHome.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
2A  OldCrowInn.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
2B  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
2C  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
2D  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.12]
2E  DLCFrostcrag.esp
**  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]
2F  Knights.esp
30  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.8]
**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
**  DLC_MOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]
31  The Mystery of the Dulan Cult.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
32  Trees Overhaul.esp
33  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]
34  Better Cities - House price patch.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
35  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
36  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
37  Better Dungeons.esp
++  Coffinbag's Better Potions.esp
38  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
**  Grass Overhaul.esp
++  Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp
39  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 3.0]
3A  Oblivifall - Closing Time.esp  [Version 1.0]
3B  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]
3C  VanillaCombatEnhanced.esp
++  VCEClassOverhaul.esp
3D  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
3E  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.4.3]
3F  Extended Game Mechanics.esp
40  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 7.3.5]
++  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery Patch.esp
41  Duke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.esp  [Version 7.1]
42  Bundlement.esp  [Version ision]
43  nGCD.esp
44  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp
++  nGCD Skeleton Key.esp
45  JCN_AV Uncap.esp  [Version 1.01]
**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp
**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp
**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.esp
**  MOBSification of MODS.esp
++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
46  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
47  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
48  Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 6.0.2]
49  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 6.0.6]
4A  All Natural Real Lights - Better Cities IC Patch.esp
4B  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
4C  Better Cities Anvil Open - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
4D  Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
++  Better Cities - MOBS.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
++  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 6.0.4]
4E  Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp  [Version 6.0.0]
4F  Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp  [Version 6.0.3]
++  Disable Tutorial Text.esp
50  Shining Creatures.esp  [Version 1.2]
++  Shining Creatures_DLCFrostcrag.esp
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.36]
51  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
52  Duke Patricks - Fortress of Fear.esp
53  Duke Patricks - Combat Magic II.esp
54  Extended Game Mechanics - Waterbuckets Landscape.esp
55  Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp  [Version 4.6.3]

» Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:23 am

Have you tried disabling half of your mods and seeing if the problem persists? Enable the first half of your mods, disable the second half, and see if you can reproduce the crash. If not, disable the first half of your mods and enable the second half and try again. If it crashes, disable another half of your active mods until you narrow down the culprit.

Seems to me this is a menu/UI issue, though. Have you tried uninstalling DarnUI and reverting the fonts in oblivion.ini to default? My first thought would have been enhanced economy but you've already ruled that one out.

» Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:18 pm

Ok, thanks for getting me up and motivated.

I have narrowed it down relatively fast, as it was always related to cuirass'. the body armor.

I replaced the standard skeleton with the one from http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/37596/?

It is the Universal skeleton, the "Controlable Skeleton".

Somehow I thought I need a compatible skeleton for this mod. Dynamic Foot Position here: http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/42222/?

Does someone know why this Universal skeleton, the "Controlable Skeleton", keeps crashing the game with my mod list?

Is there a better alternative?

» Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:11 pm

Right in the description the author of Dynamic Foot Position suggests http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/37596/?. Growlf's says:

and warns against "Coronerras Maximum Compatibility Skeleton".

Whenever you encounter problems with a mod, first thing to do is read the provided documentation, and then go back and read the download page description. Then check the "comments" and "bugs" tabs. No one knows the potential issues with a mod like the author.

-Dubious-

» Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:50 am

I notice that you're using Cobl 1.72, which is outdated, and http://www.theassimilationlab.com/forums/topic/14793-relz-cobl/ is the latest plus a http://www.theassimilationlab.com/forums/topic/15460-relz-cobl-174-fix-for-wizard/. Also, it isn't recommended to install Cobl with OBMM, only install Cobl via BAIN in Wrye Bash.

About 5-6 years ago I learned the hard way about installing Cobl in OBMM and at that time I was a complete noob regarding installing mods correctly then make my modded game to work without having issues, but oh boy what mistakes I made back then. First I got an instant CTD when launching Oblivion due to for not using the bashed patch when activating a Cobl filter mod. Later in my game I got several issues and I tried to solve them, but in the end I tossed out everything and started over.

http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/11280 and a few other mods are the only mods I install in OBMM. I suggest that you uninstall Cobl 1.72 and install the latest Cobl via a BAIN wizard (not sure if a BAIN wizard exist or not) then rebuild the bashed patch and try to continue playing.

Should get another CTD then repair you gamesave in Wrye Bash and repeat the steps for EE as you did for Cobl. TNE has retired from modding and I think the latest EE can be found on Nexus.

» Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:52 am

You can just get the wizard fix. It's the same archive of the link 'HERE' but with the installer updated.

» Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:28 am

Im onward on my campaign!
thank you very much, fellows.
may Mara bestow her blessings on you.