I've been outed!! Alright I admit it, I'm playing Skyrim. Not only that but I'm posting in the Skyrim forums perhaps a little more than might be considered healthy for a normal, well-adjusted human being. Which is to say, I just counted only the posts I made yesterday in the Skyrim General and Skyrim Mods forums. Twenty-four posts in one twenty-four-hour period. Yikes, I'm mortified. That's an average of a post per hour. I think I need to cut down a bit.

The Skyrim forums don't bother me. I've been at this for years, I'm used to new releases, I've developed thick skin. The most obnoxious Bethesda forum I've ever posted on was Morrowind General Discussion when I first registered. I was shocked. The loathing, the bile and rancor, the whining and tantrums against Morrowind almost poisoned my love for the game within two weeks of joining. I finally had to take a break. I couldn't take it any longer. I stayed away most of the summer and didn't come back until Tribunal was announced.

Over the years I've developed a kind of mental "filter" that kicks in when I scan thread titles. I know, from long experience, which ones are going to raise my blood pressure and which ones aren't. I stay away from the ones that will make me want to push an ice pick through somebody's head and read and participate in the ones that encourage rational debate. It's a talent worth developing if one intends to spend any significant amount of time on a gaming forum.

Unfortunately that is the case. Never seen so much uncalled for nastiness before and I don't recall the Oblivion forums being anything like that in the first days of it's release.

I am just getting into playing Skyrim and sometimes check out the Skyrim forum, but I very rarely recognise anyone there. Seems like sooo many new people and so few oldies.

not old forum user per say but I have been playing tes games since I was 13 ( 22 now)

I don't have skyrim yet because A. I need to upgrade my laptop ( its about 3 years old) B. I refuse to buy Bethesda games for consoles, tech support is limited ,the patches are far less frequent, don't address all major issues and tend to break as many things as they fix. and C. because I love modding my own games.

so for now I wait, and once I get my new shiny laptop in january skyrim will be the first game I get, or not it really depends, Bethesda games are notorious for bugs.

on a side note steam really isn't bad, I use to be against it until I got new Vegas, I found out that other then installing from steam, there was no intrusion, additionally you can play all your games offline, better then say other companies drm plans

Yes there is and from the official online instructions I've read on how to activate offline mode, sounds like quite a nuisance.

I do plan on playing Skyrim but keeping away from it so my school marks don't slump, waiting till more of the bugs get fixed and temperamental players finally move on. Plus I purposely avoid Skyrim forums since the game came out so I don't get anything spoiled for me. I plan on discovering most of the game content for myself. Lastly, I can't exactly afford the upgrades that I want for my PC right now.

I see that some greenhorn TES players occasionally post Skyrim threads in the wrong forum, which tells me that BGS got the exact casual player crowd they were aiming for and now have to deal with, and I don't feel sorry for them one bit. That's what BGS wanted, so that's what they'll have to deal with for now.

This. I couldn't explain it before, but it's just the feeling I get from the game. It's very good, but firing up Oblivion and going adventuring in Cyrodiil again feels like going home, in a way :blush:

There is, but it doesn't mean anything. Until last week, there was a way to launch Skyrim that bypassed Steam (although installation still required it). Players were ecstatic about this wonderful feature. Then, a patch was rammed down their throats that "fixed" the game so the bypass was no longer possible. The "patch" was downloaded even when Steam was in "offline" mode. Now, players are reporting extremely frequent crashes, and one player got his first ever Blue Screen of Death. I will never be able to understand why a company would so viciously screw over its customers.

Am I the only one feeling the history of Stasi and KGB blowing through the room? I mean, forcing you to do/have this or that? I for one am glad I didn′t get Skyrim, and I won′t for this reason alone now.

Truly a sad state of affairs :shakehead:

I don't like the Skyrim forum section. The topics move too fast and I just don't like many of the people over there. I spend more time here in the Oblivion forums, though I don't really have anything to add to any of the topics anymore.

You are no alone in this.


Same here. I was so filled with hope when I heard about the Steam bypass, then had that hope brutally ripped from me with the type of ruthless of efficiency found only in the most oppressive dictatorships.


True.
[sarcasm] Unfortunately, all PC Players must be treated as criminals. If they are good little boys and girls, this generous and completely non-judgemental treatment will encourage them to aid in stamping out the insidious evil known as piracy. In no way will it actually encourage them to engage in it, since it is utterly unthinkable that anyone would not want to install invasive spyware on their system in order to play a game. [/sarcasm]

Sorry, just had to get that little rant off of my chest. Was there enough sarcasm it there, or do I need to add more?

I think that about covered it my friend :wink_smile: :thumbsup: :biggrin:

My impression is that they really do not want people to buy their game, but rather as you ranted: to illegally obtain it (which of course I do not suggest people do). That is the only reason I can think of for all these companies and their DRM schemes, which only penalize paying customers by forcing malware on people that causes crashes, gives your personal information to hackers who invade the DRM company's website, or even prevents them from playing the game in the first place: ala Starforce or SecuRom.

I currently play Skyrim and mod Oblivion and have my heart in Morrowind.

I find Skyrim a very good game, although it has some flaws (and, seriously, if you live in Sweden and it's november, you don't need to go into a game to have snow, more snow and ice, so I certainly enjoy returning to Cyrodiil after spending a few hours in Skyrim).
As for the forums - it's pretty much the same as the Oblivion forums were when Oblivion was new. I.e. downright horrible. But, as other wise people already have posted here - it will wear off, in a year it will probably be (almost) as pleasant in the Skyrim forum as it is here.

Piracy is very real and can threaten the long term effect of creators and producers alike.
It's an incredible dilemma that all media producers have to face.
Skyrim torrents are huge at the moment - I looked on Youtube and there are numerous videos on how to download and install pirated versions.
I wonder how many of these down loaders would have bought it and I think probably quite a few thousand so Beth IS losing a lot of cash.
You can hardly blame them for trying anything to prevent this.
To must have a Steam acct just to play a bought dvd of a game that's not an online game is not for me, but all the new players will accept this as normal and within a another couple of years it will be the ONLY way to play any new game. It's the way it's going to be.

The days of the PC user doing what they want to with their games/software/pc are coming to an end.
Personal computers as I knew them have already given way to reliance on the Internet - the next step is everything on-line and 'authorized'.
If your iPhone/pad doesn't do it then you wont have it soon.
I strongly suggest to all gamers thinking long term, that they keep older computers to play their favorite games on as newer computers are making it almost impossible to play older games.

So I'm not much of a poster but I've been coming here for years. I mod Oblivion for my own fun almost daily since day one. I have several worlds packed tight with all the things I want and a Tardis to move around in. With downloaded 3dmodels and my own stuff - my Oblivion folder takes up almost 50 gigs of space.

This is the truth.





I think the question on many minds is: is piracy the cause or is piracy the effect?

There is no fun in discussing Skyrim in the forum at all.
That is, there isn't any real discussion since most seem to preoccupied or thickheaded to be able to change their views.

I'm far from done with Oblivion and will continue in its journey at some point.
But Skyrim really is another step forward and a gust of fresh air.

Eventually those who enjoy the game or actually have a sensible determined view of how to change it will stick around.
I don't think that even these people are rotten enough to spend so much energy in to something they don't believe in.

The answer to that is simple: a circle has no beginning.

Having a 'good' reason to steal does not justify stealing so therefor I have to say it's the cause of DRM.

Just a couple of years ago it was bootlegged game CD/s now it's moved to downloading a torrents - as long as there is something to steal it will be be stolen, just a fact of life.
Therefor I think that Beth and anyone else has the final right to do whatever they wish and new users will accept this as the way it is. Old gamers have to put up with it if they want to play new games. It's a 'no choice' situation.

Yes this is why I rarely post there anymore.

Hey. I tend to lurk the Skyrim forums, and occasionally chip in with a vote or an opinion or a story, but there's a couple things about that forum

1. Anything you post will probably not be read, since threads only exist for like an hour to a day before they're gone! :confused: Can't get much decent discussion this way.

2. Yea, hte flaming and the rudeness can be out of control there! :flamed:

It's not all bad, in fact the good things in the SKy forums outweigh the bad IMO, but it gets to easy to focus on the bad things, at least for me it does anyways. :shrug:

But as Lady Mara says...




And that's what'll bring me back here. :yes:

Thought I was the only one! Good to know; I was feeling somewhat uncomfortable at the idea that I was potentially the only one who actually wanted to go back to Oblivion.

My new Oblivion character is a Kahjiit female named Kitty Hawk who left Morrowind (after completing her Nerevarine destiny) to Cyrodiil after fooling people into thinking she went to Akivir on an expedition. Fools! They do not know she bribed the noblemen and guards to ensure her peaceful retirement!

I've perhaps been a bit too involved in the Skyrim forums, it's a pretty rough community. Every conceivable type of gamer stereotype exists in droves in the Skyrim section, it sort of makes me depressed to know that this is what gaming has come to

I sort of miss just hanging around in the Morrowind Mods section, and occasionally chatting in the Morrowind general section. Sadly (and not trying to sound cruel here), the release of Skyrim has also been met with an influx of new TES fans going back to play Oblivion or Morrowind for the first time, and nitpicking at the game's flaws like they nitpick at Skyrim's flaws. I remember quite a few interesting threads that sat around in the Morrowind spoilers section, sparking fun discussions about the true intentions of Dagoth Ur and other plot discussion. Even the general discussion had a few good threads about game mechanics and the like.

Now these threads have been pushed back due to large number of general questions from new players, and people asking about where to find a certain item or how to do a certain quest. I feel like these threads sort of defeat the purpose of Morrowind, where it actually felt rewarding to accomplish tasks without game mechanics holding your hand. Seeing threads that complain about Morrowind's graphics being "bad" also baffle me. It's a 10 year old game, what do people expect?

To be honest, I never really played Oblivion all that much. I'd say I maybe only played it 30 or 40 hours in total (I already have double that in Skyrim), so I've still got a lot to discover. Skyrim has quickly lost my interest due to shallow RPG elements and uninteresting quests. I have a fresh install of Oblivion on my computer, and started up a new character with a pretty minimal mod list. I'm probably going to put Skyrim aside until Bethesda releases a patch to fix the numerous bugs that plague the game.

I'm in the Skyrim forums! I joined way back before they had round wheels....well, there are quite a few members that make me look like a baby but I originally joined years ago in 2008 for the Oblivion forums. After a while there I decided to go over to the community discussion and stayed around there for a long time until Skyrim came out, now I switch between CD and Skyrim forums.

I originally wanted to get Skyrim on PC, but after reading that I had to download Steam and do all that crap, I decided to purchase it for the 360.

I still play Morrowind and Oblivion on my PC, though I want to try to resist the urge to turn my characters into god-like beings with the console this time. xD

why do games have deadlines :/ they should be released when they're done

also im still in oblivion cuz i dont own skyrim yet use to frequent morrowind tons till my x-box died would still frequent that forum if game didnt run liek crap on my 360 :/

Simple answer; money