OK, that's also another thing I'd like to know, how are pole arms confirmed at all?

Because he said that spears in the classical sense are not in. The forums translated that into, "Spears are not in but pole arms are."

There was a screenshot in the G.I spread that clearly shows two, 2-handed 'long axe' style of weapons being wielded(not by the same guy... :rolleyes: ...two separate enemies each holding one). Not to mention the fact that some variation of a halberd/bardiche/long axe/polearm/poleweapon was seen in the concept art of one of the G.I videos.

In both of those instances there is no elongated spearpoint on the the tip of the 'long axes' and in the G.I screen, the blade on the shaft is long, straight and thick with a small spearpoint protruding near the top, on the opposite side of the shaft. That's why I say they are variations on halberds at best, and fit into the category of simply being long axes, which are still pole weapons.

Nope.

The PC Gamer UK article that came out recently had a diagram of some of the possible equipment and magic combinations. "Two-handed pole-arms" were listed.

If you take that literally you must also think that they have cut Two Handed swords then huh?

What are you trying to say here??? First you disagree with my statement and then immediately agree with what I said. You have me baffled. :shrug:

Todd,all I want is shield in my left hand and spear in my right hand.

:facepalm: :ahhh: :facepalm: :bonk: :facepalm: :ahhh: :facepalm:

I'm not sure how you could reach that conclusion. It says that swords, two-handed pole-arms, ice magic, fire magic, and shields are in the game. It's obviously not an exhaustive list, because it doesn't list axes or maces, which we know are in the game from other sources. So there's absolutely no reason to believe that things that aren't on the list aren't in the game, but there's still plenty of reason to believe that things that are on the list are in the game. This is not rocket science.

I mean, for all we know, there could be one-handed pole-arms.

Yes...in the OXM thread me and RazorUK did,it mentioned a finishing move.
Where the PC thrust/plundged his sword through the chest of his enemy.
Do you really think thrusting won't be in the game,especially with better animations etc.
We had thrusting in oblivion too.

NO SPEARS BOGA BOGA ALALLALALAL :gun: :flamethrower: :ahhh:


hehe

just kidding yes I think the Toddster is saying there will be halberd/pole-arm like weapons and not spear spear kinda weapons, at least that's what I think he is trying to say.

I understand it as a miscommunication by the magazines part. I think that when they wrote "Two handed pole arms" they meant any weapon that is held in two hands. I may be mistaken because I have not seen the magazine since I am in the states and I have become increasingly cynical because of the abstract conclusions that people have been jumping to lately but I sincerely doubt that Beth would allow a feature so hotly debated to be revealed in such a trivial manner. I just don't think that the debates are helped by latching onto semi obscure tidbits of information and going to town with them.

space elves!!!

he means Vulcans ?! :nerd:

Some people are never happy, but if there is such a vast community behind the idea of Spears, then why not just wait for a mod?
If there's something missing from the game that people want in, then it's bound to be added via modding at some point. The way we mod Skyrim is going to be much more sophisticated than in Oblivion, so expect the unexpected-ly amazing.

And as for the people whining about what will and won't be in the vanilla game, shh to you.

I've seen the magazine. It quite clearly says "two-handed pole-arms" underneath a little silhouette of a halberd.

Probably pole arms more like halberds usable for both trusting like a spear an chopping like a two hand axe but with longer range. Some of the axes we has seen are in the pole arm category rather than axes. Main benefit is longer range making them safer against large enemies

I have seen two concept art pictures that show a Halbred being held by characters. So i am going to assume that the halbreds will be in the game.

That fact that Todd said there won't spears in the classic sense made me straight away feel that there will be halbred type weapons, but there will not be spears that you can throw. I'd love to through a spear right in to someones chest in Skyrim that would be awesome.

Perhaps throwing spears like in NV, hopfully you can pick them up this time.

Looking at the screen shots, in the one with the three kind of skeleton figures what weapons are they holding? Particularly the one in the middle! I'm not saying it is but it looks very pole armish! http://http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/02/11/first-screens-of-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/

Edit: fixing link

^ Polearms were confirmed in this PC Gamer article, apparently. http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1166429-pc-gamerxbox/




No, I really meant space elves. I posted http://darklythroughglass.blogspot.com/2011/02/dinosaur-riding-space-elves.html on my blog just for you.

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^ Polearms were confirmed in this PC Gamer article, apparently. http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1166429-pc-gamerxbox/


Yeah I'd heard that to, but just wanted to know what that skeleton is holding!?

(Remove the first set of http in your link)

I think thats just the same 2 handed axe that the skeleton on the left has, just a different angle. You can see the blade, but it kind of blends into the grittyness.

Face facts, there won't be 1 handed spears in Skyrim as the table in the PC gamer magazine confirms. I don't know why, because as someone already mentioned they have thrusting animations. It wouldn't take much (or anything?) to jury rig a spear shaped texture to some kind of stab or thrusting animation (like on a dagger). With a little polish it would fit seamlessly with everything else. I don't know why they aren't doing it, but I strongly hope they reconsider it for a DLC/expansion/sequel. I do appreciate the implementation of polearms, even if it is a compromise.

Concept art means absolutely nothing (and, for the record, one was an executioner, so I wouldn't take his weapon as being a weapon necessarily since it's designed for executing things, not fighting, and the other one wasn't only not a halberd, but it was like blanked out). If you'll allow me to make a parallel, do you know how infrequently concept cars ever become production vehicles? It doesn't happen very often at all.