I'm not really excited. I'm looking forward to the game, and I'll probably get it, but the potential for disastrous disappointment is too high. Oblivion forever ruined my ability to be excited about most games, and so I just sit by, parse the info, and form a collected opinion. I try to keep emotion out of it.

No I'm excited and so are a lot of others here.If you look in the community discusion part of the forum you will see tons of us eagerly awaiting TESV.

No I'm pretty excited for Skyrim! I mean come on, it's another elder scrolls, been waiting years for this!

If only everyone could have this mind set. :thumbsup:

Feature A and feature B don't make Elder Scrolls for me. Bethesda makes Elder Scrolls. And in my book they haven't hit a strike yet.

(which makes me a idiotic heretic obviously because I like Oblivion and play on console.)

Im just happy a new Elder Scrolls game is coming. Im waiting to get my hands on the game and play for a few hours before I start judging its quality. Although Im sure I will love it, it looks better than Oblivion from what ive seen in the GI updates and other Game magazinesand Oblivion my favourite game of all time, the only game I have put 1000's of hours into with joy.

I am really excited, games are just scrutinized by their followers and elder scrolls has a lot of followers
also a lot of the followers were from Morrowind, so they dont like stuff like the amount of skills, compass, perks, and fast travel.
also a lot of people assume and come to conclusions that just arn't founded upon, like becuase 3 skills got merged people say the elder scrolls are going to continue at this rate until only 1 skill is left, but leveling is actually getting more complicated with the perk system.

since skyrim is based on wateva skills u do they said start wit only three skill i dont understand this part if i want to summon smthing like a lich how will i if i did not pick conjuration n since u dont pick it does every race hav the same skills n meaning everybody can do anything.

So, you're saying that everyone should just be content and spend their 60 dollars despite not wanting something in the game, and not talking about better ways to improve rather than simply removing key features? Not having their own opinions about something that they spend their own money on?
Oh, ok. Gotcha.

What is this, the Borg? We do not all have the same mindset. We have our own opinions, and I'll be damned if you tell me I'm not allowed to express them here. :goodjob:
It's called the Skyrim Discussion Forum, not the Everyone Should Love Skyrim No Matter What And Not Contribute Anything Forum.

So we've heard alot about features being taken out on these forums what's some new features? aside from a new engine, improved combat system, dual wielding (magic also), overhauled 3rd person, taunts, dragon shouts, improved magic, dragons, perks, beards, new and improved havok physics, revamped leveling, weapon smithing, enchanting returns, dueling, finishing moves, NPC interaction realistic and improved, city economy, kids other stuff i can't think of.

I have seen NO evidence of them cutting anything. I have however seen that some things are changing, and that the changes seem to be for the better to make a more natural experience for the player.

I think a lot of the doom-sayer are morrowind fans like me. I used to be one myself, but don't care to criticize anymore.

This is what happened with me atleast.: Picked up morrowind for computer, my first RPG. Fell in love with the game...... The alien feel of it..the politics...the gray morality...the lack of definite truth.....the sense of exploration....the pacing of the main quest... how you could happen upon information, treasures, and stories in the middle of nowhere, if you looked hard enough..

So when I heard Oblivion was coming out, was excited like hell for 2 years. Went out and bought it the first day. Expecting something more awesome than morrowind. But felt like choaking martin and hated the bland enviornment and lack of political intrigue or character for the game....

Felt like they had thown the serious fans under the bus to get that XBOX money. Not that I fault them for it, they are there to make money. I was just dissappointed. BUT then they came out with Shivering Isles and all was well.....


I expect the mechanics and gameplay of Skrim to improve as has happened with each subsequent TES game... If the lore or character is lacking a bit, I expect an expansion or mods will fix it... Though I don't think it will even be a problem, from what I have gleamed from the GI articles. They seem to be going for more unique dungeons and settings this time... and I hope they bring back artifacts that you can find in dungeons. Like phynaster's ring, the shadow bow, etc..

I'm as happy one can be :laugh:
except when I read about everybody that say they are angry at beth because they took out something they liked (not even something important; like the class system which is totally useless) They make me sad...

So did you dislike Oblivion as a game?

Apparently Spell Creation is no longer, bummer I liked it but if they can improve magic as a whole then I wont need to make my own spells to make the game more magical, granted I love anything that is custimizable even if it's as simple as naming my spell.

Considering 85+ Spells and 20 shouts... seems like a decent amount and if they could do something like Fable 3 does with spell combonations then you have yourself a very long list of possibilities.

I bought Oblivion, and I was extremely disappointed yes, as were a lot of people.

Here's what I meant:

You've never played another TES game. You walk into a store without ever hearing of Oblivion and you buy it. Do you like it?

im not going to get excited till the last week before its release date.

I'll feel completely indifferent until I actually play it for myself. I havent been following it too closely, I know most of what was revealed in GI and dont wish to find out any more until I buy it.

I'm more amused if anything, that people are angry at all. Bethesda overhaul the series with every new titles. Why are people suprised it happened again?

That hypothetical question has no basis in real life, though, because I have. And that's not the point. You're trying to prove something that I'll openly admit; I played Oblivion, a lot.
But just because I played Oblivion doesn't mean it was an OH MY GOD STELLAR AMAZING TEH EFF game. It was fun. That's about it. :shrug:
It didn't hold a flame to Morrowind, though, in most aspects.
Yeah, I'll buy Skyrim, for sure. But again, that doesn't mean it's going to be amazing, nor does that mean I'm going to be happy with how they did it. And I'll try as hard as I can to voice my opinion while it's still in production for them to change minor things about the game that should be optional. Like Fast Travel, target assisting (god I really hope that's optional), etc.

I'll answer that question, even though it wasn't asked of me. The answer is still NO for me. As an RPG it failed in so many places it would take 2 pages to explain them all. What's makes it worse for me is that I have played previous TES games so I know what kind of RPG Bethesda is CAPABABLE of.

I judge a game based on the genre. If it's an RPG, it had better let me Role Play and make me believe I'm in the game. I didn't get that with Oblivion.

Why does it need to hold a flame to Morrowind for it to be a good game?

Oh so games getting worse and worse, less entertaining, homogenized, and mainstreamed as the series progresses is a good thing now..?

useless to you, priceless to others. would you be as angry if they left it in. there is that saying that you cant please every one. but that doesn't mean you have to make decisions which causes outrage or apathy. right now I don't really have an opinion about it, becasue I know so little. but my opinion will be (should class be chucked out for perks when you could have had both) is dissapointed and confused.

Yep, this is how I feel.

Morrowind was a total breath of fresh air for me ( being a Nintendo hokerr for many a year ). It was my first Elder Scrolls experience, and therefore was the foundation of my hopes and dreams for the next one. These were dashed after an immense build up of hype ( Which, I can only blame myself for ) and quickly realising Oblivion was not the sequel to my favourite RPG. This I guess, is why us Morrowind babies can be so bitter. We want Bethesda to create the game we've been waiting for since we were done with Vvardenfell.

I apologise for my pessimism. Please forgive my prejudice, but I won't make the same mistake again. I will watch the last months of development with bated breath.

Here's to the game we've been waiting for :foodndrink:

what it really boils down to is the oblivion and Morrowind debate, I think ES have been getting better, in some fields Oblivion didn't meet what Morrowind did and people completely blow it out of proportion. And people just focus on the things that Oblivion failed at and think Skyrim will do the same thing but worse. Also there was some stuff missing that was promised in Oblivion, but it has confirmed that it is in Skyrim, they were just having some problems with the software, but I think they have gotten over it now.