The only problem for me playing an Argonian

Post » Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:59 pm

somone posted in another thread, saying he found absurd the idea of having the 'Champíon of Cyrodil' as a skinny 4 foot tal girly, with anime hair, pink dress and wielding a Daedric War Hammer. Facing a dozen Xivilai, Daedroth and Liches.

I just couldn't stop imagining this :rofl:


That was the OP of this thread here. Check page one. :rolleyes:
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Post » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:49 am

yes - bad thread management by me.
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Thanks a lot, now I have this horrid vision in my head of 4-foot little manga girls with E-cups jumping around in thongs with huge Daedric warhammers, beating the crap out of Minotaur Lords over twice their size.... :rofl:

I think Cyrodiil is the only place (other than the Black Marsh) where you could actually have an Argonian realistically be the Champion of like... Everything. For example in Morrowind, where Argonians and Khajiits are completely enslaved, it's hard for me to imagine and Argonian/Khajiit to be the Nerevarine. Sure, there's a prophecy that determines who the Nerevar Reincarnate is, but still. It just doesn't seem realistic to me.

As well as the thought of a woman being this epic warrior that kills everyone with a blow from their huuuuuge warhammer, which even most men would have trouble lifting... No way. Then again, I just can't play as a male character either, being female myself. It just seems... too strange. Out of place, if you will. :D Which is why I typically go for the stealth-type female Bosmer/Dark Elf with high Personality and Illusion, who just sneaks around invisible and shoots people from behind corners and charms the hell out of everyone. Yay!
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Thanks a lot, now I have this horrid vision in my head of 4-foot little manga girls with E-cups jumping around in thongs with huge Daedric warhammers, beating the crap out of Minotaur Lords over twice their size.... :rofl:

I think Cyrodiil is the only place (other than the Black Marsh) where you could actually have an Argonian realistically be the Champion of like... Everything. For example in Morrowind, where Argonians and Khajiits are completely enslaved, it's hard for me to imagine and Argonian/Khajiit to be the Nerevarine. Sure, there's a prophecy that determines who the Nerevar Reincarnate is, but still. It just doesn't seem realistic to me.

As well as the thought of a woman being this epic warrior that kills everyone with a blow from their huuuuuge warhammer, which even most men would have trouble lifting... No way. Then again, I just can't play as a male character either, being female myself. It just seems... too strange. Out of place, if you will. :D Which is why I typically go for the stealth-type female Bosmer/Dark Elf with high Personality and Illusion, who just sneaks around invisible and shoots people from behind corners and charms the hell out of everyone. Yay!


I can't play as non-human races. :lol:

I can manage bosmers and altmers, but nothing else... For me the options are Imperial, Breton, Redguard, or Nord. That's it. :D

With females, some amazon-like warriors make sense, like if it's a female nord warrior. Female mages are pretty acceptable as-well though. But one of the main reasons I can't play females is that I can't stand them roaming all around like that. Like, going from one mage guild to another to sleep? Just sounds unlady-like to me. :shrug:

For me, a woman should have a stable family environment, and should stay as something peaceful, like a trader or something. :)

Call me a close-minded sixist, or an old fashioned gentleman, that's just the way I think.:P
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Post » Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:13 am

But one of the main reasons I can't play females is that I can't stand them roaming all around like that. Like, going from one mage guild to another to sleep? Just sounds unlady-like to me. :shrug:

For me, a woman should have a stable family environment, and should stay as something peaceful, like a trader or something. :)

Call me a close-minded sixist, or an old fashioned gentleman, that's just the way I think.:P

If I were feministic in the slightest, I would be sooo upset right now. :P As it is I can totally see your point... For example in most cases it's just physically impossible for a woman to do the things that are required in the game (even daggers are probably pretty damn heavy, and you have to be really strong to wield any sword effectively or to even draw a longbow).

But even for the sake of realism, I just can't play a man... They're just kinda blah. (Who's the sixist now, huh?) I mean, I want to kind of be able to identify with my character, and being a man just feels so wrong. So I go for bows and arrows and spells and light armor, which is almost realistic. Still not really, because very few women would have the right mentality to do the things you're required to, to be honest. Then again, a female assassin is completely realistic in my opinion. Women tend to be more the sneaky-kill-from-behind-corners type, whereas female warriors I just couldn't get. Thank God I don't have any warrior vibes whatsoever.

(Well, that got kind of off the topic. Oops.)
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Post » Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:00 am

Then, Holy Assassin, ur female character should try to avoid meeting mine at all costs: with Intelligence 80, Personality & Speechcraft >90 she'd be xxxtremely tempted to turn her world upside down in every which way imaginable & possible.
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Then, Holy Assassin, ur female character should try to avoid meeting mine at all costs: with Intelligence 80, Personality & Speechcraft >90 she'd be xxxtremely tempted to turn her world upside down in every which way imaginable & possible.


Oh no, my character is all for it. It just feels wrong to me. :P
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I can't play as non-human races. :lol:

I can manage bosmers and altmers, but nothing else... For me the options are Imperial, Breton, Redguard, or Nord. That's it. :D

With females, some amazon-like warriors make sense, like if it's a female nord warrior. Female mages are pretty acceptable as-well though. But one of the main reasons I can't play females is that I can't stand them roaming all around like that. Like, going from one mage guild to another to sleep? Just sounds unlady-like to me. :shrug:

For me, a woman should have a stable family environment, and should stay as something peaceful, like a trader or something. :)

Call me a close-minded sixist, or an old fashioned gentleman, that's just the way I think.:P


It's not being sixist. There is a thing called sixual dimorphism, and males are generally larger and significantly stronger than females and males are, and always have been better at doing things that require physical strength like fighting or hard work. It's just the way of life. In real life there would be no female warriors. They'd be, like you said, either traders or family women 99% of the time. Even if the woman was strong enough to be able to wield a weapon and wear plate armor, she'd probably encounter ALOT of discrimination and would not be allowed to fight or be a solider. (speaking of real life)
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It's not being sixist. There is a thing called sixual dimorphism, and males are generally larger and significantly stronger than females and males are, and always have been better at doing things that require physical strength like fighting or hard work. It's just the way of life. In real life there would be no female warriors. They'd be, like you said, either traders or family women 99% of the time. Even if the woman was strong enough to be able to wield a weapon and wear plate armor, she'd probably encounter ALOT of discrimination and would not be allowed to fight or be a solider. (speaking of real life)


Indeed. But that's the thing with playing a game. Obviously people in TES have no problem with female warriors. Heck, the Fighters Guildmaster was a woman!

The thing is, since I was raised on Earth, it seems strange to me, so it's hard to get over it.
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It's not being sixist. There is a thing called sixual dimorphism, and males are generally larger and significantly stronger than females and males are, and always have been better at doing things that require physical strength like fighting or hard work. It's just the way of life. In real life there would be no female warriors. They'd be, like you said, either traders or family women 99% of the time. Even if the woman was strong enough to be able to wield a weapon and wear plate armor, she'd probably encounter ALOT of discrimination and would not be allowed to fight or be a solider. (speaking of real life)

Then again, you have to remember that the races in Oblivion differ a lot from just plain humans. For example there seems to be little difference in the build of female and male Orcs, Khajiits, Argonians and Nords, for one. This is probably due to restraints of the game, or just the game period, and probably in lore the difference is more pronounced (I'm not an expert)... but still. And the racial build of some of the races just couldn't realistically support a Warrior lifestyle, period. Wood Elves, Argonians, etc. They're just too small and relatively lightly built to even carry heavy armor, let alone run around in heavy armor and swing claymores at huge monsters.

But yes, as a six women should be less fighting oriented and more the at-home type, though I can also realistically see female assassins and thieves (at which they might be even better than men ;)).
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Post » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:36 am

but of course, there are exceptions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazons

and *if true*, the cutting off of one briast, so as not to hamper archery skills, would be a specially harsh sacrifice i seldom see men capable doing

also, norse women fought in wars, alongside with men, i think...
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Post » Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:32 am

but of course, there are exceptions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazons

and *if true*, the cutting off of one briast, so as not to hamper archery skills, would be a specially harsh sacrifice i seldom see men capable doing

also, norse women fought in wars, alongside with men, i think...


Actually pre-pubascent male singers were known to chop off their testicles, so their voices stay sounding young. I think Justin Bieber did the same thing. :P

No but seriously, this was known to happen, back in the Roman days, don't know exactly when.
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but of course, there are exceptions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazons

and *if true*, the cutting off of one briast, so as not to hamper archery skills, would be a specially harsh sacrifice i seldom see men capable doing

also, norse women fought in wars, alongside with men, i think...


Well, men don't have briasts
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Actually pre-pubascent male singers were known to chop off their testicles, so their voices stay sounding young. I think Justin Bieber did the same thing. :P

Haven't you heard about Justin Bieber's voice changing? :o It's been all over the media. The most important news in the world, it seems, is that poor little Justin Bieber is finally starting to sound like something other than a 4 y-o girl.
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Post » Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:14 am

well - as a male i wouldnt cut off my 'balangandan', for any reason! the war can go to hell!!!

Edit: Errr.... how did we start from 'Elf Age' and ended at 'Khajiit jewels' and 'amazon briasts' again ????
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Haven't you heard about Justin Bieber's voice changing? :o It's been all over the media. The most important news in the world, it seems, is that poor little Justin Bieber is finally starting to sound like something other than a 4 y-o girl.


He needs to go to the doctor. If you haven't hit puberty yet at 16 there's something wrong with you. I started shaving when I was 11, and some of my friends before that... I feel sorry for too. He's a very small, weak kid. At least all the 6 year old girls like him! If this was 20,000 years ago we would of thrown him out into the wild for the lions!
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Haven't you heard about Justin Bieber's voice changing? :o It's been all over the media. The most important news in the world, it seems, is that poor little Justin Bieber is finally starting to sound like something other than a 4 y-o girl.


Well, his career is over. Who's the next kid puberty is going to screw over?

Macauly Culkin
Dakota Fanning
Justin Bieber

Who's next?
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Well, his career is over. Who's the next kid puberty is going to screw over?

Macauly Culkin
Dakota Fanning
Justin Bieber

Who's next?

You left that kid from Stewart Little off the list. Johnathon Lipnicky?
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You left that kid from Stewart Little off the list. Johnathon Lipnicky?


He wasn't all that big to begin with. :shrug: In their time, the three I listed were like, the shizz.

I forgot to list the Olson twins and Lindsay Lohan though..

Oh, there's also a list of folks puberty did wonders for:

Taylor Lautner
Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Josh Peck
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Post » Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:08 am

Taylor Lautner
Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Josh Peck

Joseph Gordon-Levitt got sooooo much better after puberty... and I'm not just talking about his career. :P
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He wasn't all that big to begin with. :shrug: In their time, the three I listed were like, the shizz.

I forgot to list the Olson twins and Lindsay Lohan though..

Oh, there's also a list of folks puberty did wonders for:

Taylor Lautner
Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Josh Peck


What?! He wasn't as big when he was little, as Josh Peck was when he was little? Well bub I certainly hope I'm misunderstanding you because if I'm not, you are WRONG!
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He needs to go to the doctor. If you haven't hit puberty yet at 16 there's something wrong with you. I started shaving when I was 11, and some of my friends before that... I feel sorry for too. He's a very small, weak kid. At least all the 6 year old girls like him! If this was 20,000 years ago we would of through him out into the wild for the lions!


:rofl:
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:rofl:


Hey, we all make spelling mistakes
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Hey, we all make spelling mistakes


NO - i was laughing at the comment!
throwing a poor, weak child to the lions, not due to a deprived sense of mercy, but for the practicality of those days, like "kill now, he no chance for real life. Then we eat brontosuarus-burger"
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What?! He wasn't as big when he was little, as Josh Peck was when he was little? Well bub I certainly hope I'm misunderstanding you because if I'm not, you are WRONG!


Like I said, puberty did wonders for Josh Peck. He only got minor rolls as a kid. As he grew, he starred in the successful show Drake and Josh, and is also going to star in the remake of Red Dawn, coming later this year.

That Stuart Little kid fizzled out pretty quick. Heck, I didn't even know his name. :shrug:

I forgot to add the Olson twins to the list of kids that puberty ruined.
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