[[Bounty][Ben]]

I'm looking into getting these games, they look very interesting, but could someone link the Crusader Kings to Europa Universalis to Victoria 2 to Hearts of Iron 3 converters? I'd love to lead a country through hundreds of years of history.

The EU3 to Victoria 2 to HoI 3 Converters are currently WIP (though they're making fantastic progress on at least EU3 to Vicky 2).
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?490709-EU3toVic2-Vic2toHoi3-Converter-Project
By the time you finish EU3, they should be nearly done (yes, games take a long time, unless you're superhuman).

There are a number of CK to EU3 converters, but none of them have yet been made to work with the newest released expansion pack, Divine Wind (CK's oldness certainly isn't helping matters, and the fact that most programmers who would make such a thing are furiously working on the above converters). To be honest, once I finish my current CK game, I may just hand-convert it (it's a few hundred provinces, but shouldn't be too bad (I hope)).

[BethanyRhain]

Thanks. I've been playing the demo of EU3. Fun, but very complicated.

[Aliish Sheldonn]

Update: [censored] has gone down. Lots and lots of [censored], proving that this game (Crusader Kings) is brutal, and takes no prisoners. Ok, so here's a quick list of what has happened recently.

1. Poland recovered from the brutal asswhooping I gave it, and somehow managed to absorb ALL of the Kingdom of Hungary. I have an alliance with them, to secure my borders, but I'm sure a reckoning is coming soon.

2. Rebellion! Three of my vassals decided they didn't want to be under me anymore. Luckily, they were from weak provinces, and were quickly put down. But the damage they caused to everyone else's loyalty took time and money to repair.

3. Disaster! The King of Bohemia finally died (he was 74), and when his heir took over, there was MASS rebellion. Most of my vassals dropped to around 50% or lower loyalty. Fortunately, I have thousands saved up, so I was able to buy them off pretty well. I also gave my heirs old province (Upper Silesia) to the Count of Lower Silesia. I plan on getting the title of Duke of Silesia for him soon.

4. I decided to reclaim one of the "crown" territories (the provinces that makes up Bohemia proper), unfortunately, the dude there didn't take kindly to me wanting to revoke his title. So I had to get....brutal. The guy had three heirs, so I had to off all of them (two weren't even advlts yet ), and then his primary heir. To get his primary heir, I had to lure away his spymaster using marriage to one of my courtiers, then assassinated his father. As heir, he took up his father's province, but with his weakened Intrigue stat, it was a simple matter to have him assassinated. So, yay, I now directly control Bohemia's two best provinces.

And I feel super evil for killing those kids....But it had to be done. And I get the feeling the game is meant to be played this way...

[Jhenna lee Lizama]

Heh, I know exactly how you feel. The only way to win is to completely curb-stomp the opposition - and even then you still have to deal with rebels of the next decade or so. You also can't let Vassals get more powerful than you...gotta keep those natives down!

Feels bad, man. :/

[Jeffrey Lawson]

Heh, I know exactly how you feel. The only way to win is to completely curb-stomp the opposition - and even then you still have to deal with rebels of the next decade or so. You also can't let Vassals get more powerful than you...gotta keep those natives down!

Feels bad, man. :/

I think I'm gonna go about reasserting the powers of the Crown, reconstitute the Duchy of Bohemia directly under the command of the King of Bohemia, provided I can have that large of a demesne.

And then I gotta look into securing the title of Silesia. That won't be easy at all. I wish there was a way to bargain for titles.

[jaideep singh]

I still like Paradox's games, but not really as much as I used to. I was one of their biggest fans until recently. HOI2 and EU3 up to the Heir to the Throne expansion are 2 of the best games I have ever played. I am not a big fan of their more recent releases.

[Pawel Platek]

Some really weird happenings today in Crusader Kings.

The Kingdom of Poland kinda "collapsed" I put that in quotations since the title lived on. See, I finally decided to go about claiming the title Duke of Silesia so I go to war with the Duke of Less Poland. This brings the whole Kingdom of Poland into it. Anyway, I'm once again whooping ass like a mofo, and all of a sudden the Duchy of Lesser Poland becomes independent, and goes to war with the Kingdom of Poland. I was all "lol wut" and decided to make peace with Lesser Poland. Still couldn't get the title of Duke of Silesia, though.

Anyway, Lesser Poland fights the Kingdom of Poland for awhile before they finally agree to peace. I still hadn't agreed to peace with the Kingdom of Poland, so, being weakened as they were, I struck at their weaker northern border. The Tribe of the Lithuanians decided to get in on the action, too, and then the Kingdom of Poland collapsed, and the Kingdom of Hungary came back, with the King of Poland and Hungary being the same guy.

I was all "hell no", but couldn't do much about it. The Duchy of Pecs was a powerhouse under Hungary-Poland, and I was having some internal problems with the Duke of Austria, who bordered on Pecs. Luckily, proper application of money and fostering changed that, and I settled in to draw up plans to get that title of Silesia!

So, the Duchy of Lesser Poland had, in the mean time, gotten curbstomped by the Lithuanians, and was stuck in a little corner of land with no relation to Poland at all. I was like "ok, lets do this" so I declared war, and marched 10,000 men to fight his meager army of 900 or so. It wasn't even a battle. Quick victory signal, a siege, and bam! Sued for peace, got the title, and went home.

In the mean time, Hungary-Poland was being an [censored], so I got indignant and decided to go to war with those bastard. It. Went. Awesome. After I brought all of the Kingdom of Hungary and its vassals to war, I had the Duchy of Austria and its vassals lead attacks on the western front, on Pecs. It didn't take long for Pecs to want a White Peace with me, so I basically took them out of the war. Then, with my main province Bohemians, the Duchy of Silesia (I bestowed the title on the rightful heir, the Count of Upper Silesia), and the Duchy of Morava, I swept down into Eztergom and proceeded to jack [censored] up for the Kingdom of Hungary-Poland, and brought the entire region to its knees, controlling the ENTIRE demesne of the King oh Hungary-Poland (which made up a good majority of its entire provinces).

The northern front, near the Baltic Sea, also went pretty well, but was pretty subdued. Led a few attacks, and managed to snag the title of Duke of Pomerania (which the King of Bohemia is holding for the foreseeable future), and got a new vassal, the Count of Danzig.

Unfortunately, I didn't have any claims to the King of Hungary-Poland's land, so I had to settle for a minor bit of tribute.

Oh, and the King of Bohemia died, throwing the lands into peril again as the heir had to spend a ton of money to placate the nobles. Luckily, kinda, one noble (who controlled one of the "crown" provinces) wouldn't make peace, so I got another piece of land for my king's demesne.

I'm pretty pleased with myself. And I haven't assassinated anyone lately, either!

I'm now casting my eyes on Bavarian and Swabian lands. But I'm hesitant to go to war with the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation. the Emperor (King of Germany and forty other titles) can bring over 90,000 men to the front. My wars with Hungary-Poland kinda depleted my forces a bit, and I can only bring about 41,000.

[XPidgex Jefferson]

Sounds like a great game, what year is it now?

I didn't mention Crusader Kings before, as I haven't played it as much as HOI2 and EU3, but I really enjoy CK. It is unlike any game I have ever seen and can be a lot of fun to roleplay your rulers; make decisions based on the traits your rulers have, not what is best for the game. It also does a pretty good job of keeping you from becoming a world dominating power that can never be beaten, which is the biggest downside to games like this. An early death by a good monarch followed by 20 years of rule by his schizophrenic, vengeful spoiled bastard son can bring even the mightiest kingdom to its knees.

[Stephanie I]

The year is 1152.

And I'm now a proper European monarchical family, some of my children have the overt Inbred trait! Huzzah.

I'm now looking for new genetics.

[Klaire]

"Freeeesssshhh blloooooooooooodddd!" *HISS*

I started a Savoyard game last night and managed to take Avignon, Schweyz, Genoa and Mantua. The [censored] Venetians and Sicillians are ganging up on me, unfortunately for them, I have Burgundy and Austria as allies...

[Queen Bitch]

Decided I needed a brief change of pace, and took on Limousine in a new game. Everything was going great until I got hit by two plagues, my leader became a heretic, and three of his sons departed for different courts.

[Elena Alina]

Are there any games like this, but easier, for a first timer of the genre? I would like to control early America..

I don't have the best PC so i'd prefer an older game, but i still need it to run on windows 7.


Thanks guys. :]

[Nuno Castro]

Civilization?

[Erich Lendermon]

Sounds like a great game, what year is it now?

I didn't mention Crusader Kings before, as I haven't played it as much as HOI2 and EU3, but I really enjoy CK. It is unlike any game I have ever seen and can be a lot of fun to roleplay your rulers; make decisions based on the traits your rulers have, not what is best for the game. It also does a pretty good job of keeping you from becoming a world dominating power that can never be beaten, which is the biggest downside to games like this. An early death by a good monarch followed by 20 years of rule by his schizophrenic, vengeful spoiled bastard son can bring even the mightiest kingdom to its knees.

Aye. Crusader Kings can be rewarding at time, but brutal at others.

In my Ireland game, I've somehow found myself the King of the northern half of France. France was joined by union to Poland (who also held the Crown of Lithuania). Naturally, as any EU3 player will realize, France is hard enough as is in that game, without also controlling Lithuania and Poland. I was not looking forward to the conversion.

Fortunately, the French were very over-extended, and a civil war disintegrated France. Completely. The Crown was taken from them by Orleans. They got it back, but by this time, the major power block in France is me, who controls the entirety of the coast upon the Anglo-Irish Channel, and quite a few territories inland.

My armies number 300,000 total men, and I haven't had a major civil war in years.

I'm kind of impatient for 1399, when I'll "complete" my game and convert it over to EU3 (by hand, if necessary). I've already designed flags for the "Union" of Ireland, Wales, and England (with additional features for the eventual integration of Scotland).

[Nick Pryce]

Is Crusader Kings the one you would start with if you were to download those converters? also, is CK the game you're playing right now Verlox? You should keep posting your progress, lol, it's very very interesting to read(tho it makes me want to buy the game even more, lol)

[Noraima Vega]

Is Crusader Kings the one you would start with if you were to download those converters? also, is CK the game you're playing right now Verlox? You should keep posting your progress, lol, it's very very interesting to read(tho it makes me want to buy the game even more, lol)

Yeah, he's playing CK, but all the games are like that.

The converters are great, but as I said earlier in the thread, they haven't been updated for the latest EU3 expansion, or for Victoria 2 or HoI3 (though they ARE working on those two).

My advice? Wait until the converters are in working order, unless you don't care how long it takes (hint- it takes a VERY long time to get from game to game). In the meantime, if you see the game on sale, pounce like me pouncing on a rebellious vassal of a more powerful bordering kingdom. Only if you're sure, of course. CK is cheap, but it is old, and the sequel is coming out next year.

[Matthew Aaron Evans]

Is Crusader Kings the one you would start with if you were to download those converters? also, is CK the game you're playing right now Verlox? You should keep posting your progress, lol, it's very very interesting to read(tho it makes me want to buy the game even more, lol)

Yeah, most games seem to evolve (or should I say devolve) into cut-throat murder, war, and rebellions. Bohemia has actually been pretty lucky, and I've only had one rebellion (because the former Duke of Morava was a jerk). If you're playing as a minor count, you don't really have much in the way of influence, and playing as the king of a large kingdom right at the start can be really unwieldy. For those reasons, I think the best thing to do is play as a Duke, and then graduate to a King....or marry into the royal family, then kill the royal family. Both work.

Skyshadow, have you ever had problems with Fatal Errors with CK?

[elliot mudd]

Isn't Paradox also doing the Majesty games? Haven't played majesty2, but M1 was a lot of fun (paradox didn't make M1, but they bought the rights, I guess).

[Dj Matty P]

Yeah, most games seem to evolve (or should I say devolve) into cut-throat murder, war, and rebellions. Bohemia has actually been pretty lucky, and I've only had one rebellion (because the former Duke of Morava was a jerk). If you're playing as a minor count, you don't really have much in the way of influence, and playing as the king of a large kingdom right at the start can be really unwieldy. For those reasons, I think the best thing to do is play as a Duke, and then graduate to a King....or marry into the royal family, then kill the royal family. Both work.

Skyshadow, have you ever had problems with Fatal Errors with CK?

Yes, actually, a few times. I usually don't bother with it too much. Turn autosaves on and every time you crash, just reload the autosave. Works for me (also, they're handy when your king dies and some invalid schizophrenic kinslayer excommunicated heretic takes the throne).

No idea, Ala. Never was much into the Majesty games. I'll have to try them sometime once I get a job.

[Kira! :)))]

They published the second one. No development involved, though.

[Jade Payton]

Majesty 2 is certainly a good game. Not quite as good as the first one, but a good game none-the-less.

[TOYA toys]

Majesty 2 is certainly a good game. Not quite as good as the first one, but a good game none-the-less.

I haven't played either, though I own Majesty 2 somewhere. The best line I have seen is that the less you know about the first game the better the second game is. Majesty 2 is a pretty good game on its own, if you are comparing it to M1 you will be disappointed.

[Vicky Keeler]

It really runs with the comedic aspect of Ardania. In Majesty 1, the world was still funny, but was mostly deadly serious. In Majesty 2, it's kinda reversed. Most of it's funny, with some seriousness sprinkled about.

Oh, CK news: I just got my ass handed to me by Germany. I managed to keep my heartland, and Austria, but I lose my provinces along the Baltic Sea, and I had to give up the title of Duke of Pomerania.

Twas not a good day for the Kingdom of Bohemia.

[Alexx Peace]

I'm thinking of snagging CK off of Ebay, several up for less then 10 with shipping already added in. are there any expansions for CK?

[Charlotte Buckley]

I'm thinking of snagging CK off of Ebay, several up for less then 10 with shipping already added in. are there any expansions for CK?

Just one- Deus Vult. If it says CK Gold or Complete, it should have DV included with it.

If you want to be absolutely sure you're getting the right thing, you can pick up both on Paradox's website, Gamersgate, for 20 bucks total, or on Impulse for 25, depending on your preference. Digital download, though, which you may or may not have strong feelings on (I once did, but I've since come to realize that it's pretty friggen awesome).