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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:25 am

Not much new going on, but Bethesda did post this today on their site: https://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/welcome-to-fallouts-legendary-vault-77/2015/10/12/36

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lauren cleaves
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:46 pm

Remember, these Vaults are 100% canon.

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CArlos BArrera
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:20 pm

Not seeing anything about a new series being made. You'd think that we'd have seen it by now as we're getting pretty close to release.

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jessica Villacis
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:52 pm

So that gaint Rad Scorpion is a actual thing out there in the Waste? I really hope it doesn't appear in Fallout 4

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Rachel Tyson
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:45 pm

I stopped following PA when they sold their souls to EA when DA2 came out. Haven't really missed them tbh.

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Post » Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:16 am

Cute.

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xxLindsAffec
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 8:21 pm

"The Vaults were never supposed to save anyone." That at least is canon :lmao:
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:06 pm

So what was the point of the vaults?
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Lewis Morel
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:37 pm


Social experimentation programs, ostensibly to test humanity's capability to survive in long-term generational starships for the colonization of outer space.

The fact that almost all of the test vaults (which was all but, what, 16?) have questionable science backing them (such as no double-blind studies to prevent bias) and bizarre experiments means that it was an ill-conceived thing that sounded good on paper. Especially since the control vaults would be more than enough to determine a good chunk of the official purpose.
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Trish
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:58 pm

Basically to let the Enclave (who the pre-War government intended to be the real survivors) better their own chances of survival through social experimentation (not sure how putting a vault where everybody thinks they need to sacrifice their overseer on an annual basis or where all disputes are resolved by gambling contributes to the survival of the Enclave, but hey, its not my field)

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Post » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:58 am

Thanks for the link! I never saw the original - and this was great!

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Shianne Donato
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:36 pm

The Vaults really are one of several victims of Fallout 1/2's jumbled lore.

Since the whole "build a rocket and go to another planet" part of the Enclave's master plot got cut from the game, and since they were just going to purge all life on the planet using FEV, the entire Vault plot turned into "we did it for [censored] and giggles" rather then for an actual purpose.

Ghouls, mutant animals, the vault project, all got screwed in some way or another.

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:34 pm

What's ironic is that even their Societal Preservation Experiment failed because of technology. Supposed control vaults and experimental vaults failed mainly due to technology not able to replaced and other assorted issues.

Also the people living in some of these vaults are actually outliving the forces that put them into them so will live their lives completely unaware that any data from their experiment is now usless (with the destruction of the US government/Enclave on the former Oil Platform there is no no one overseeing the experiment project.

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:15 pm

I wish PA did a new Comic for Fallout 4. Its b een 8 years and while the original is still thematically appropriate it would be great for a new one.

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:51 pm

Being willing to sacrifice a single person for the good of the group and being able to resolve disputes without bias would, in fact, be very important to the survival of the Enclave on a multi-generational trip through space.

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Post » Tue Dec 08, 2015 1:14 am

The problem with that vault( I forgot the number but I want to say 11) is they got rewarded for not leaving someone behind. If they tell the robot they refuse to kill anyone they are allowed to live when they please and come back.

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:09 pm

Would certainly like to know what happened in Vault 43.

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Nathan Maughan
 
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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:51 pm

Vault Security proceeded to gun down the panther with relative ease immediately upon finding said feline.

Vault residents wondered immediately what the [censored] just happened, shrugged, and proceeded about their daily business.

And Enclave scientists scratched their heads wondering who the hell thought that genius idea up. Turns out it was an intern.

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:42 am

Remember this is in the frame of 40-70's era experimentation and ethical evolution. The vaults aren't as outlandish in that frame of reference.

A couple examples of the kinds of ridiculous experiments from the era:

Bats with napalm attached to them were considered for use to fire bomb japan

Pigeons were put in bomb warheads so they could peck in the direction of targets and guide bombs to the surface.

The stanford prison experiment where civilians were assigned roles of prisoner and guard for experimental research into conflicts in jail systems. The guard volunteers were encouraged to use psychological torture techniques by researchers to induce feelings of helplessness in the subjects... It worked, very well. One man even underwent a temporary mental breakdown.

LSD experiments where volunteers were given psychoactive drugs and the effects were studied.

Various forms of tear gas and chemical weapons were tested against African American soldiers around WW2 to determine their efficiency.

The milgram experiment lead volunteers to believe they were giving another volunteer severe electric shocks to the point of execution while being encouraged to do so by an overseer like authority figure. Most people went all the way to the execution button and did as told. It turned out to be an actor and no electricity was involved but many volunteers were obviously very distraught over what they had seemingly done.

I'm not even scratching the bottom of the barrel here either.

In the frame of reference of the 40-70's scientific culture the vaults are nearly perfectly reasonable ideas.

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:38 pm

Following the experiment thread from above (copied from wikipedia):

The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment (/t?s?ki?ɡi?/)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment#cite_note-timeline-1 was an infamous https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinical_trial conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Public_Health_Service to study the natural progression of untreated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syphilis in rural African-American men in Alabama. They were told that they were receiving free health care from the U.S. government.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment#cite_note-timeline-1

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Post » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:04 pm

Exactly what I'm talking about.

The vaults are "Lore friendly" for the era the represent.

That is the most depressing use of "lore friendly" ever I think.

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