Hello.

Oblivion is one of the most modded games of all time, either to correct some annoying issues or to add new gameplay elements.

What combination of mods do you use to get the most out of this masterpiece of a game?

Cheers

It's not that anyone is ignoring you, only that there have been countless topics created regarding this same question. Let me see if I can dig up a few recent discussions...

EDIT - Here are the three most recent discussions I found on this topic...

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1082532-recommended-mods/page__p__15771700__hl__favorite__fromsearch__1&#entry15771700

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1081198-topbestfavorite-mods-of-all-time/page__p__15747602__hl__favorite__fromsearch__1&#entry15747602

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1080862-up-to-date-list-of-recommend-mods/page__p__15742443__hl__favorite__fromsearch__1&#entry15742443

A few of my favorites:

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=3953 by Oscuro, dev_akm, MadCat221. Not just a 'creature-adding' mod, not just a 'difficulty' mod, not just a 'gameplay-tweaking' mod, Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul is actually one of the finest finest roleplaying mods around. http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=1757 by Martigen, Corepc Dev_Akm Shadowborn is the perfect complement to Oscuro, adding much-needed spontaneity to Oscuro's static world. Crank Martigen's mod all the way up and Oblivion will feel as wonderfully unpredictable as an MMO. These mods are so inseparable to me I count them as one.

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=OblivionMods.Detail&id=2764 by, of course, DarN.
This essential mod goes a long way toward making Oblivion's consolized interface useable. Configurable from within the game via a menu.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14065 by tej?n, or http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13879 bu ABO.
Two excellent character-levelling mods that do away with stat management, excel spreadsheets, visits to Wiki pages, etc, to research "builds". With these mods a player can just play and let a mod handle leveling seamlessly and invisibly in the background. I tend to prefer RL but I am using nGCD in my current game and am very impressed.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14304 by tej?n.
This mod allows the player to control the speed of advancement of each skill. Easily configurable via an .ini.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11237 by tej?n. (My games would be unplayable without tej?n.)
Willpower again has an affect on the player's vulnerability to magic, as in previous ES games.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=7484 by Deathless Aphrodite.
Makes the player lose fatigue when running. When the player's fatigue hits 0 he starts to walk. Also allows the player to sprint for a brief time.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25078 by TheNiceOne.
Using this mod merchants' gold goes up and down with each trade. Also does away with the haggle slider (what a relief!) Allows the player to specify how much gold they recive from looting containers, enemies, as quest rewards, etc. All configurable via .ini.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4387 by CorePC. Adds much-needed life to Cyrodiil's roads. The merchants are great if you like to spend extended time away from cities as I do.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16513 by Bananasplit, Wolfslady, Reckless, SilentResident, Nernie, Vorians and last but not least, Ismelda.
The way the cities of Tamriel should have looked. Spend hours wandering around like a tourist, awestruck at how different (and gorgeous) everything looks. Comes in modular form - you can choose to redo all of Cyrodiil's cities or just one. It's your choice. When I'm not using Better Cities I'm using Arthmoor's http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1019807, which tranfers the vanilla cities into the Cyrodiil worldspace. Wonderful for those of us who love to ride horses through town.

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=942911, also by Arthmoor, adds Morrwind-style transport to the game. A nicely immersive touch.

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=984109 by XMarksTheSpot, Brumbek & Ismelda is another mod I can't play without anymore. It adds windows that turn off and on in synch with day/night cycles and also, optionally, smoke from chimneys. Comes with a nice variety of window color tints too.

Emma has recently released one of her wonderful companion mods for Oblivion, http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28977, an Alchemist-oriented companion with a mind of her own (and, as a bonus, dialog voiced by Emma herself).

My favorite armor mod is Brash's http://oblivion.brashendeavors.net/bows/. A great mod for anyone who loves light, ranger-ish amror and slightly more natural, non-fantasy-type bows. I also love the ranger camp just outside Weye.

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1073491 by onra. If you like to explore, this is the mod series for you. Replaces the 'placeholder' landscape of Valenwood and Elseweyre (and, soon, Summerset Isles) with fully-realized land, ready to be modded. Which goes perfectly with:

http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1072969 by Side777, which adds seven ships of varying sizes you can pilot around all this new coastline.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25023 by Iliana.
An ambitious project whose aim is to recreate the province of Elseweyr, home to Khajiits and, of course, Moon Sugar. Compatible with Tamriel Heightmaps.

This is my list. I'm running totally crash-free now, lots of great quests, gorgeous locations, immersive combat and more items, monsters, and NPCs then I can deal with.

I decided to forego too many texture replacers on this install because I wanted higher performance for all the gameplay enhancing mods I was adding.

I am using OBGEv2 (godrays, ssao, etc.) and screen effects (for that little extra fine-tuning of color, contrast, etc. and a tiny amount of blur)


But having a full FCOM + UL + BC + RAEVWD + TIE4MODS + lots of extras makes for a pretty sweet Oblivion experience.

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Windfall.esm02  Jog_X_Mod.esm03  ScreenEffects.esm04  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9]05  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm06  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm07  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]08  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]09  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]0A  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm0B  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0C  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0D  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0E  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0F  Better Cities Resources.esm10  CM Partners.esm11  HorseCombatMaster.esm12  UnnecessaryViolence.esm**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp**  TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp13  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.4]14  DLCShiveringIsles.esp15  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  Shivering OOO.esp16  Better Cities .esp17  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp18  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp19  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp1A  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1B  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1C  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1D  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1E  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1F  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version Final]20  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.1]++  Symphony of Violence.esp21  MIS Low Wind.esp22  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp23  WindowLightingSystem.esp24  AliveWaters.esp25  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp26  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 3.3.4]27  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.1.1]28  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]29  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp2A  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp2B  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp2C  Thieves Arsenal.esp2D  Armamentium female.esp2E  kuerteeHorseCommands.esp2F  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]30  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]31  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp33  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp35  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]36  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]++  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]37  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]38  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]39  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3A  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ReteroX_BBEvilSkeletons.esp3D  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3E  T.I.E4MODS.esp  [Version 0.32]++  T.I.E4MODSOOO+FCOM.esp  [Version 0.1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]3F  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]40  Castle_Wolfspike.esp41  (DC) Sutch Reborn.esp42  Sutch Reborn Spawn Patch.esp43  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.2]44  Shezrie's Villages.esp45  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp46  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp47  GlenvarCastle.esp48  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]49  KragenirsDeathQuest-LetThePeopleDrink patch.esp4A  Ruins of Tarnesia.esp  [Version 1.0]4B  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.2.1]4C  thievery.esp4D  Windfall.esp4E  Knights.esp4F  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]50  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp51  RTT.esp52  RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]53  The Lost Spires.esp54  AFK_Weye.esp55  Blood&Mud.esp56  Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp  [Version 1.0]57  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp58  MannimarcoRevisited.esp59  MannimarcoWardrobeChest.esp5A  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]5B  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5C  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp++  FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp  [Version 0.9.9]5D  ElsweyrAnequina.esp5E  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.4]5F  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]60  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp61  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]62  xulTheHeath.esp63  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp64  XulEntiusGorge.esp65  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]66  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]67  Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp68  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]69  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]6A  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.3]6B  Castle_Almgard-V2.esp6C  SutchReborn-LostCoast patch.esp6D  KragenirsDeathQuest-LostCoast patch.esp6E  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]6F  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]70  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]71  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]72  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]73  KragenirsDeathQuest-CloudtopMountains patch.esp74  Ravenview-Cloudtop-Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]75  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]76  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]77  HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp78  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]79  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp7A  KragenirsDeathQuest-RollingHills patch.esp7B  xulPantherRiver.esp7C  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]7D  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]7E  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]7F  xulBlackwoodForest.esp80  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]81  Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp82  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]83  Lakewood+AspenWood Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]84  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp85  NRB4+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp  [Version 3.0]86  bartholm.esp87  Bartholm-Panther River Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]88  Patch-Wolfspike-UL.esp89  Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp8A  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]8B  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp8C  Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 CT.esp8D  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]8E  Enhanced Vegetation [150%].esp8F  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]90  RealisticForceMedium.esp91  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp92  RealisticLeveling.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]93  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]94  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]95  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]96  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversity, TNR Merge.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]97  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]98  bgBalancingEVOptionalNPCDiversityLAME.esp  [Version 10.5EV-D]99  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]9A  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp9B  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp9C  BCBravilB&MFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp9D  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp9E  Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp9F  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.espA0  BCCheydinhalFULLB&M-CheydinhalFalls patch.espA1  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.espA2  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.espA3  Better Cities - Thievery.espA4  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.espA5  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.espA6  Better Imperial City.espA7  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.espA8  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]A9  MotionBlur.espAA  ScreenControls.esp++  Visually Realistic Lava.espAB  UnnecessaryViolence.espAC  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9]AD  Bashed Patch, 0.espAE  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 1.9.1]

Well, I find it simplest to only use the best mods there are, which are, by definition, the ones I choose to put in my own load order.

gothemasticator

Since Far327 already kind of linked to http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1072579-the-any-mods-list-of-topics/page__p__15593408__fromsearch__1&#entry15593408 I'll just copy jack.q.frost:

My current load order:

Hehehe, I knew there was a dedicated thread out there somewhere, just couldn't remember what it was called. Will be sure to reference your thread directly next time

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22282
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22282
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22282
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22282
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22282

Oblivion is 10x better now.

Phoenix,

I notice no bashed patch. I guess it's not strictly necessary with your load order, but I suspect you would benefit from it, especially with the new import functions available.

I was going to ask why you use No Lights Flicker instead of using the bashed patch tweak for that, and then I noticed (gasp!) no bashed patch.

Just curious.

gothemasticator

I've just started a new game (third character played.) Here are a few I've discovered this time around that I won't play without again!

* Automagic Bags - Adds some bags that will magically put some stuff away (yay - keys!) and also you can edit the bag ini file and name your own bags. Useful!
*Vibrant Textures pack by Corepc - Just OMG. It's like a brand new environment to me. Everything just pops.
* TNR Races - The one that's part of the Cobl pack. It changes the faces, eyes and hairstyles of all the NPCs. It's amazing and every NPC looks fresh and unique.
* Setsuna Training Dummy - FINALLY I can level up while hitting those training dummies. Now the dummies and ranged targets are useful instead of just decorative.
* HGEC Body (if you have a gal) - the shoulders are nice and realistic and I enjoy this now over regular Exnem or vanilla. Looks great on woodelves (although I might choose Exnem if I was making a warrior-type).

There's a lot of other must-haves for me but these ones are my new discoveries that really up my enjoyment of my game this time 'round.

I hear http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29569 and http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=29638 are a pretty good texture replacers.

Thanks everyone so far I am still new to Oblivion modding, but I'll post the mods that I am using. I decided not to use massive gameplay altering mods, just to see what vanilla Oblivion is with it's crucial flaws (IMHO) corrected.

Unofficial Patches for Oblivion, Shivering Isles and Official DLCs
All +5 Attributes
Quest Award Leveller
Less Annoying Magic Experience
Harvest Flora

They were all manually installed, no OBMM, and it was quite simple, so I guess for a novice in Oblivion modding this is a nice set up

Cheers

At the moment, I'm really enjoying http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22810. It's a beautiful house mod with a fun little quest. I recommend her other mods, as well! ^_^

Also, a bit of advice when looking for mods! I'd suggest playing your game and asking yourself what you could add to make things better then go hunting for it. Chances are that you'll find it! There're over 20,000 mods on TESNexus now!

Keep in mind, as well, that just because a mod isn't packed full of endorsemants and download numbers, it doesn't mean it's a bad mod. Sometimes the coolest mods are the least known!

http://www.oblivionsrealestate.com/ is a brilliant modding site you'll want to check out as well.

Have fun building your list! :foodndrink:

These all work brilliantly for me, just make sure you install them in the right order:

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9]02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]03  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]04  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]05  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]06  nVidia Black Screen Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]07  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.4]08  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]09  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0A  Oblivion.esp0B  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0C  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0D  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0E  All Natural - Atmospheric Weather System.esp  [Version Final]0F  Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp10  WindowLightingSystem.esp11  SoT_Holiday.esp12  Living Economy.esp13  Living Economy - Items.esp14  Cutthroat Merchants.esp15  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]16  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]17  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]18  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]19  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]1A  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]1B  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]1C  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]1D  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]1E  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]1F  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]20  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]21  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]22  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]23  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]24  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]25  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]26  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]27  Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp  [Version 3.2.0]28  Enhanced Vegetation [150%].esp29  RealisticFatigue.esp2A  Pestilent Afflictions.esp2B  StealthOverhaul.esp2C  ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.esp2D  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]2E  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]2F  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]30  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]31  ProgressRacial.esp32  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]33  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]34  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]35  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]36  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]

Hello again.

I am going to try some more extensive modifications on Oblivion, still without using Wrye Bash or OBSE (to keep things simple for a modding novice like me), but I am not yet sure about the loading order. I have read the mods faq at this forum and devk_akm's load order guide, but I am still confused, for example: even though he says OOO should be loaded last, I do not know which mods need to take precedence to show through...and which mods need the DLCs to include their features in the changes they make. This is what I am thinking of doing, I would appreciate if someone experienced pointed out the incompatibilites or incorrect load order and posted the correct one, please:

1. Oblivion
2. Unofficial Oblivion Patch v3.2.0
3. Unofficial Oblivion Patch v3.2.4 Hotfix
4. Shivering Isles
5. Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch v15
6. Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul 1.33 + Patch 1.34 beta 5 + Living Economy + Harvest Flora
7. Knights of the Nine
8. Unofficial Official Mods Patch 1.4
9. Less Annoying Magic Experience 1.7
10. Midas Magic Spells of Aurum 0.995 + Patch A
11. Martigen's Monster Mod 3.55b5
12. Tamriel's Travellers 1.39c
13. Cyrodill Travel Services
14. Bob's Armory 1.1
15. Atmospheric Weather System 2.1 OR Natural Environments
16. DarNified UI 1.3.2 OR DarK UIDarN
17. Pure Immersion 1.52
18. Quest Award Leveller + Patch 1.01
19. Quiet Feet MAX 2.0

Thank you in advance.

EDIT: Improved text.

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Here are all the mods I use right now. I don't recommend any of them practically every mod I've tried has ruined my game at one point X.X but right now, with all these it seems to be working pretty well, except for a few bugs I've been noticing, such as NPCs can breathe underwater and use all of their attacks (at least IC guards) some NPCs have black eyes or no hair, some dialogue and locations are in Dutch etc. etc. Other than that it runs better and smoother than ever.

@The Black Ninja: Your load order needs to be fixed.

@The.Reap3r: Try my http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/baininstallguide. Don't be afraid of Wrye Bash. The features it offers are well worth the time to get to know it. (Since the 280 lease of Wrye Bash seems to be buggy, download v279 or v276.)

The irony of that statement is that Wrye Bash will actually make things easier for you as opposed to more difficult. And it'll greatly assist you in sorting out your load order and any incompatibilities. The people who say it's hard to use don't bother to read the readme and installation instructions.

And there's nothing complex about OBSE. It's like any other mod. It's just installed in a slightly different location. Some of the most awesome mods out there utilize OBSE, so it'd be a good idea to get it. :goodjob:

I have some questions:

1. What should I load first, Less Annoying Magic Experience or Mida's Magic Spells of Aurum?
2. Does OOO increase the view distance underwater and makes it look less muddy?
3. Is Quest Award Leveller still needed with OOO?

I shall post other questions if they appear

Thank you in advance.

1: Neither Midas Magic or LAME do anything that would cause the two to conflict(Midas adds only new spells and items/places, LAME doesn't edit Midas Magic locations/items or spells), so really, they don't have to be placed in any specific location with each other, so place them anywhere after the unofficial patches, and you're good to go with them.
2: It's been a while since I've used OOO, but I don't think it does. I could be wrong, but I don't think it does because I can't see any reason for it to do so.
3: As with the previous question, I'm not totally sure, but I am fairly certain that you will still need the Quest Award Leveler. Unless it delevels some quest rewards(such as Chillrend and the like), in which case, you won't need it. Double check if it delevels the quest rewards in vanilla. And, in case you don't know what that means, Here's a easy explanation: Deleveling something makes it so that you always get one version of a item, for example, or in the case of monsters, the always spawn at a certain level instead of scaling to the player.
So, if a quest reward is deleveled, you always get one version of the reward. If it's the best version, then that's good. If it's less then the best, then you might want it.

Thank you very much .

A couple more questions:

1. Should OBMM be installed manually or via an .exe? I recall reading somewhere that the .exe was preferred, but usually people do not like the registry modifications that come with it.
2. I have OOO in a omod ready archive, but it is the 1.33 version, whereas 1.34b5 is in a separate archive, with no omod conversion script. What shall I do to avoid conflicts? This is valid for other mods. EDIT: Like the Unoffical Oblivion Patch, for which there is an hotfix in an archive instead of an omod.
3. Does OOO have MOBS included?
4. I have read a lot about Knights of the Nine's incompatibility problems, especially with OOO, so should I load it at the end of the list or just after OOO?

Thank you in advance.

Yes, use the executable installer for OBMM. OOO 1.34b5 does not need an installation script because it does not contain much other than necessary updates. The only optional module it contains is OOO WaterWeeds. You can delete that after installing it if you want. I could also give you a quick OMOD script if you want to do it cleanly. Get the OMOD version of the UOP since you are using OBMM. Install the Hotfix on top of it. OOO uses OMOBS, not MOBS. They are related, but not the same. You need to grab the stand-alone OMOBs file for use with OOO or FCOM after installing the UOP Hotfix. Use BOSS to sort your load order, but, yes, KoTN should load after OOO.

Find the BOSS link and some instructions for installing it here: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/baininstallguide/installutilities
Find the UOP Hotfix link here: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/baininstallguide/downloadrequired
Find the OMOBs link here: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/baininstallguide/f0

You want to use OMOD versions of everything while using OBMM. You could also use that guide and convert to BAIN though.

Edit: I suggest starting from Part 0 if you convert. You can start from Part I if your install is practically fresh (only patched with the latest official patch.)

Thank you for the great answer!

So if I install OOO 1.34b5 manually on top of the files of activated OOO 1.33, what will happen when I deactivate it?
Btw, when using OBMM there are no permanent changes in Oblivion's original files right? Can all changes be undone when mods are deactivated?
Do you recommend MOBS?
Lastly, any answer to the KotN issue?

Thank you in advance.

• You should pack the OOO 1.34b5 files into an OMOD. (There are instructions in my site if you look under utilities.)
  
• Almost all of Oblivion's original files are packed in BSAs, but the Video, Music and Shaders folders are loose. You should back those up.
  
• OOO and FCOM use OMOBS, which is why you download the OMOBS stand-alone mod. However, most outside mods do not use OMOBS. MOBS is close to OMOBS, so if you have a choice, get weapon and armor mods that are MOBS rebalanced.
  
• KoTN should indeed load after OOO, and that works fine.
  
• Use BOSS to order your load order. Do not do it manually.