The problem i have with the cryogenic freeze theory

Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:08 pm

I don't know why no one has picked up on this, Vault 111 is different than any Vault we have ever seen before. It wasnt designed to keep the environment out like most vaults, but to keep certain things in. There is a difference. Vault 111 is clearly pressurized. Here in the US, contained gases are given a certain color. Oxygen is green, CO2 is grey, Nitrous Oxide is blue, Nitrogen is black and finally Air is YELLOW. So if your in a hospital and see yellow pipes or valves, that means compressed air. Thats why many other things you find, like inflatable rescue rafts and deep sea research subs are yellow..compressed air. Now take a look at 111 in the trailer, especially at 2:06. There is yellow pipe valves, the door is trimmed in yellow. Then take a look at the cogwheel door that opens the vault. All yellow and pressure warning signs on it and a pressure release valve right on the door. Never in a fallout game has a vault been pressurized. So why is this important? Because in Cryonic sleep you have to increase pressure and lower the person's temperature dramatically. The increased pressure prevents the formation of ice, which would damage tissue or even kill the person. This is proof enough for me.
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Chantel Hopkin
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:55 pm

Yeah, I kind of do. The Vault Dweller at the end of the trailer is either THE guy, or his kid. http://imageshack.com/a/img540/4378/YSGU4f.jpg

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:23 am

Even if they somehow survived the blast wave from a near nuclear explosion how did they then get in a sealed vault, did any Vault in Fallout lore ever open its door immediately after the nuclear war began to let in survivors?

It start showing a dilapidated house and flashes back to what it looked like 200 years earlier with a happy family, then it show panicked people trying to get into a vault and then some people (from my repeated viewing including the happy family) dying locked out of a sealed vault.

Then you see the dog which has no link to the old family, expect for some house the dog was exploring having a dog bowl in it 200 years earlier, greeting another guy walking along a road 200 years later and thats pretty much it.

There is very little there to hang the theory on.

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Rebecca Clare Smith
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:13 pm

Who said it was sealed. Looks like they are on there way in. Many of the people are stopped at the gate, crying but the family isn't. They are at the door. I just believe the dog acts as a hook to follow the man in the trailer life's events.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:36 pm

Considering that that would make the Vault useless aka letting all the Radiation in?

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:17 pm

I personally think

Its shown to be sealed, the people are actually standing on the sealed entrance, its open when the dog gets to it.

Also this is not the entrance to the vault because we have seen that in the trailers, so those poor soals died without even making it to the main entrance of vault 111.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:07 pm

Kinda my point, if the family is there when the nuke explode outside they are dead or ghouls.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:29 am

The dog is post war. There is a scientist with a clip board, guards and a ton of luggage there, so no it doesn't have to be sealed.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:22 pm

My previous link:https://youtu.be/paCUhiUxxIw

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:19 am

The Vault has two dors one that works like a Elevator and one that is down inside.Te Elevator door is closed whenver it's up.

And nobody with a brain would let it down again after the bomb dropped.

About the video:The bomb dropped much closer ,and they were hit by the debris.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:38 pm

I'm not sure any of it was significant, but saying it was perhaps the baby was protected from the radiation by it's parents bodys and drug into the vault by the dog just before the door closed and we just haven't seen that part. Then he was frozen, aged slowly and maybe even developed some unique trait due to the small amount of radiation he received in those few moments. Maybe the dog made it too and he was frozen as well as everyone who made it into that vault.

It was programmed to awaken them in however many years. Maybe they didn't even age during that time. All sorts of strange experimental vaults throughout the wasteland.

Ok, well...that's my story and I'm sticking to it until we get some real details.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:37 pm

All of whom would have to be inside before the nukes hit otherwise they wouldn't be getting in either and we actually see that the shaft down to the vault is sealed because we see people standing on it when the nuke hits.

Yes that shows a nuclear test with people at a much greater distance, many of who would later die from related illnesses.
The point would be there is no way anybody who outside when the nukes fell being inside a vault, since they were already sealed at that point (with one notable exception).
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:43 am

No, because you see him next to the wife when the bomb goes off. http://i.imgur.com/lUKbl24.jpg

The video you (or I think it's you) linked isn't definite proof. 1) The bomb is much closer in the trailer and 2) We have no way of knowing if they're the same yield. A small Hiroshima-type bomb? They're fine. A Tsar-class bomb? Not even ashes left at twice the distance away.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:32 pm

Or maybe it's the dad.

/Occam's Razor

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:34 pm

BEFORE Bethesda came, Vaults were made to test how humans would do in certain enviromental conditions. Necropolis was about how would people react to being exposed to Radiation, how would the people outside react, how would the population change.

AFTER Bethesda, Vaults are.. random.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:14 pm

:thumbsup:

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:50 am

Your assuming this is your standard vault. There may be essential people and their families this vault was made for and they will get in radiation or not. You explode Megaton in 3, you didnt die or turn ghoul

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:44 pm

To be fair, Avellone basically made the "lolsorandom" Vaults first in the Fallout bible, which Bethesda used.

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roxanna matoorah
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:56 am

"I" was on a Tower a long distance away.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:38 am

That's not accurate. Vaults got screwed up with stupid, nonsensical experiments well before Bethesda entered the picture. On the oil platform in FO2, you can discover that the vaults are all sinister experiments, and the Fallout Bible published by the original Fallout team listed tons of stupid vault experiments.

Honestly, I wish they had just kept the vaults' purpose to SAVE people, like in Fallout 1, but in Fallout 2 they felt they needed a stupid twist to show how mustache twirling evil the Enclave and the government were.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:41 pm

If they were essential people they would have been in the vertibird not running for their lives. You paid for the privilege to be one of those allowed into a vault, they were refugees not essential people anybody who was essential to a vaults operation would already be in the vault getting it ready for the influx of new vault dwellers.

The real essential people were in the Enclave vaults not standing on sealed entrance out in the open to be hit by a blast wave second after a nuke explodes in their faces.

The point of the Vaults is that no radiation got into them unless they failed, otherwise vault dwellers would be ghouls and the Megaton point is just silly, your right across the map when it goes off.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:29 pm

as others have said, and I've said in other posts, nope.
F2 nonsensically retconned the vaults to be nefarious and cool, without being fleshed out properly.
Awesome possum is right about what Avellone says in the Fallout Bible.
Van Buren was to attempt to better explain them. But as i have said before, it wouldn't have made any more sense.
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:55 pm

Ok well I will pay for your copy of FO4 if your right, but your not. It is the same guy.

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:02 pm

It does beg the questions...

How he survived the blast?

How would he get in the vault?

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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:52 am

I think people are missing the point of the trailer, its not showning you the story. It is as much to introduce new people to the game as anything, I look at it this way...

There was a nuclear war = check

Some people survived by going into underground vaults = check

Others were abandoned to die outside the vault doors = check

Look at some of the cool people, places and things in the game = check

Thats you exiting the Vault = check

Thats you heading out on your adventures = check

Cyrogenics isn't mentioned or even vaguely hinted at.

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