I could see the cryogenic freezing not being the main goal, it makes sense.

One route could be: if the Institute was around pre-war (or whatever it was derived from), it could mean that the vault experiment was to preserve the bodies so they could be harvested for DNA by the Institute to develop androids. Maybe. That would follow the cliched path of the protagonist being android, but not knowing it or whatever.

The Institute is formerly the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (AKA MIT). I don't know much more than that, or even if there is enough info out there, but it was definitely there.

I don't see the idea of a frozen DNA bank nessicarily leading to the player being an android. Maybe they unfreeze you when you are next in line, expecting you to be dead but you're not. It seems a bit thin, but I think with some work it could fly.

However I would go with: The technology wasn't ready but Vault-Tec thought it was worth the risk, but only for one or a few vaults. If there is only a 10% (for instance) chance of success someone like Mr. House wouldn't take that risk, but it would be simple enough to lie to your average person and tell them it is low risk.

Cryogenicly freezing people would be the best way to ensure human survival, but if the technology isn't ready, and therefore unreliable, you couldn't use it on a large scale.

Though we still don't know if that is what we are getting, it based on a supposed leak.

Alien power cells can also be found in the Olney Powerworks area, just outside where the tesla coil is, suggesting the advancement of Tesla tech was because of alien tech.

Well knowing that Bethesda has some sort of fetish to always start their games in some sort of cave/bunker/prison I never thought anything else.

As I was saying earlier. House isn't really in stasis for the same kinds of things.

If we are to assume there is Cryostasis, simply because the dude in the flashbacks may be the dude with the single line at the end, then we can see he has not aged. This speaks of full Cryostasis, where you are out completely and wake up a large duration of time later.

House, seems like he wanted to be present the entire time, which is why his body is not stopped, but only slowed, allowing him to remain conscious. You know, that whole reason he was able to rebuild Vegas and have an army of securitrons do his bidding?

So, uh.. absolutely wouldn't be a plot hole. House knew what he was doing, and freezing himself would have taken him out of the loop.

I have to agree with this.

House, the Think Tank, Desmond, all of them had reasons to not freeze themselves, and just because they didn't doesn't mean no one else did.

Also, as much as I HATE to quote anything Prima writes, the official Fallout 3 game guide lists cryostasis as a means attempted by players of "the great game" used to try to survive the war.

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Desmond_Lockheart

Facing the nuclear holocaust, global leaders and members of the intelligence community made their personal bids for survival in the new world. F.E.V., cryogenic stasis, AI consciousness, even—in Desmond's case—controlled exposure to normally lethal doses of radiation were among the wildly risky and experimental techniques pursued in the name of survival in a world without modern infrastructure.

Please forgive me...I'm a lore hound who hasn't read all of this thread but I have something to do real quick so I apologize if this has been mentioned already.....




What if we are the baby? Hypothetically there could be enough nonpotentiated stem cells (assuming science FICTION over SCIENCE fiction as all FO does) that it could be argued the brain and body could wake and develop from a cryogenic stasis whereas advlts, due to their more developed and mature cell lineage, would 've reduced to a near vegitative state as effectively their brains wouldn't so much freeze as they would damage themeselves without the ability to repair due to the differentiation of brain and neural cells caused by the normal aging process.


It's a TERRIBLY complex possibility for any videogame, especially a Bethesda one, but it COULD be a workable explanation...

(I personally hate the whole idea of cyrostasis for the sole reason of House, the man was paranoid and vain and if he could have preserved his body God knows he would have, why else even bother keeping the shell like he did. I will headcannon my theory if only to save my sanity in the event Bethesda chooses the cyrostasis route...)

For reference as to WHY this COULD be possible, suggested readings would be about young adolescents surviving hypoxic conditions underwater (drowning like) in the cold and following rescue, recovering all mental faculties while advlts tend to suffer minor to permanent debilitating brain damage and loss of mental faculties oftentimes from even less exposure. Additionally as a tidbit, cold drowning you can come back from, warm water drowning is FAR more lethal.

They had tesla armor even before Navarro fell. I doubt it's supposed to be alien.

The Olney powerworks was a pre-war area, meaning before Tesla armor was made by the Enclave.

there were aliens abducting people before the turn of the 20th century.

Cryonic sleep would have been introduced in Van Buren so cryonic sleep isn't really new to Fallout. Dr. Presper was to have been a prewar scientist at Boulder Dome,emerged, found and worked for the NCR...initially. If you look at Vault 111 in the trailer you will notice a few things. First it has an elevator entrance and then a standard looking cogwheel entrance. But look a little closer. The elevator entrance (2:06 in the trailer) has yellow paint, valve openings, warning lights and such. The yellow paint is a sign of pressurized air and it looks to be built as if the Vault was closed and pressurized from the outside, not the inside. Why is this important? In Cryogenics you need high atmospheric pressures and low temperatures. It is the high atmospheric pressures that keep ice from forming, which will damage tissue.

Ah, gotcha. I mistook the location you were describing as the crater out near that Talon company. fort. It also has alien cells and an Enclave presence. I was wondering where you got that. Now I feel stupid. XD

The main character AND his dog can be seen during the pre-war scenes in the trailer (just like they are seen in the wasteland and ending of the trailer).

Not every vault was an experiment. Some vaults were "control" vaults which were in 100% working order, had enough space and food to feed people almost indefinitely. This vault dweller could have come from a control vault or the experiment is to thaw the cryo-residents after x years.

Actually, it would fit well in the lore and it doesn't necessary have to be a "cryo-freezer". I mean, anybody remember Tranquility Lane? I believe everybody in there (except us and our father) were from the Pre-War era and somehow were still alive in these machines, yet not necessary "frozen", right?

So it could be a few things, not just the whole cryo ordeal.

From what it looks like to me, we saw the baby and mother outside of the Vault, left for dead. the father got inside (the father being the player-character we see later on)...

Is this is true, we might be up for some feels in the beginning of Fallout 4...

I didn't see the dog in the pre-war stuff, and you see the couple with the baby get nuked.

Well, let's be honest. This is Fallout, and Bethesda's Fallout at that. Hollywood-style chicanery like getting that close to a nuke and still making it into the vault okay might just pass.

As for cryofreeze, I imagine House, Desmond, and the Think Tank preferred to still be functioning in the 200 years after the war. Cryofreezing technically doesn't increase your longevity as much as it just freezes you at a certain point of it.

Yep no Dog in the Pre war scene....and the family dies.

1. The dog is seen running up the hill to the vault in the pre-war part.

2. I've only seen the wife and baby, not the father (FYI: the player character we saw later on). So this might mean that our child and spouse will die in the beginning of the game while we survive.

~Edit~

Nvm. My memory wasn't correct. The dog isn't seen but the 2nd part is still true.

The father is standing right next to the wife and baby when the bombs go off. Like, immediately to her right, same look, same hair, same white t-shirt as the guy at the crib in the flashback.

I don't see him.

http://i.imgur.com/lUKbl24.jpg

Alrig'ty then. Either way, we'll see what happens. I'm more interested about possibilities than trying to figuring out which one is literally truth.

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Edit:Ah too late-

That is the part after the war....the bride is almost destroyed corpses along the way....no people because they are corpses.