The pronunciation of CHIM? : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:26 pm

How do you pronounce CHIM? Is it like "chimney" or the European pronunciation of "ch" making it "kim"?

» Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:45 am

I alwatys figured as in "Chimp."

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:56 pm

Try looking at Velothi Stronghold names and Dunmer names, and decide which makes more sense in those cases.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:45 pm

Try looking at Velothi Stronghold names and Dunmer names, and decide which makes more sense in those cases.

knowing what I do about said names, I don't think that'll help.

Is the word CHIM intended to be spoken in the first place? I've only ever heard of it written, either in a book or on Vivec's big fat floppy MUATRA.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:40 pm

Vivec and Almalexia shout it at Hogithum Hall. It came from Veloth's teachings, and he must have been an orator of some sort.

I just checked, and there is not a single Dunmeri name listed on Zaph's treasury that begins with 'c'!!

Neither do any dungeons with dunmeri names begin with that letter. Odd.

» Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:49 am

Yes it is. And I didn't know that bit about them shouting it.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:43 pm

AE CHIM CE ALTADOON for my own revenge I eat you!

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:11 pm

'Kim'

» Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:20 am

'Kim'

Dangit! I hate pronounciation reality checks.

But seriously, why no names that begin with the letter C?

» Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:00 am

Dangit! I hate pronounciation reality checks.

But seriously, why no names that begin with the letter C?

Dunmeri names? Never noticed.

CHIM is from the Ehlnofex, though.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:00 pm

'Kim'

Man, that blows.

Chim as in Chimney sounds allot better. Kim is a girls name and a rather tacky one at that.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:27 pm

Never noticed? :lol:

Yeah, Prowler. Who is it that has the 'ChimChimChim Chymaney, Chim-Chim-Charoo' sig?
Edit: The Dude. We must notify him!

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 2:50 pm

Dangit! I hate pronounciation reality checks.

But seriously, why no names that begin with the letter C?

Although we now have the authoritative pronunciation from MK, somehow I always preferred pronouncing it with a K and a long I, as in "time".

» Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:00 am

Although we now have the authoritative pronunciation from MK, somehow I always preferred pronouncing it with a K and a long I, as in "time".

Then it could be tonal like Keening and Sunder.

chime

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:44 pm

'Kim'

[censored] I've been saying it wrong!

Okay, since a huge bit of ES is (was) choice I'm gonna choose to say it with the "Ch" since I can't kick the habit of saying exactly what I see.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:50 pm

Then it could be tonal like Keening and Sunder.

chime

No, as in "kyme". Not sure how I chose that pronunciation.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:30 pm

That pronounciation has been around for quite a while, actually. So long it's almost been forgotten:
Michael : How to Say it All

Pronounced AHLD-Mary. Means 'of the First Folk.' 'Old Mary' is a Colovian corruption, and joke.

Dwemer (the Dwarves) is DWAY-mare. Means 'Deep Folk.'

Dunmer (the Dark Elves) is doon-MARE. Means 'Dark Folk.' Colovian hicks say DUHN-merh, but the Dark Elves laugh at them or strike at them, depending upon the number of hicks present.

Chimer (precursor to Dunmer) is KY-mare. Means 'Changed Folk.' Oops! This is a secret..!

Altmer (High Elves) is AHLT-mare. Means 'High Folk.'

Bosmer (Wood Elves) is BO-mare. Means 'Green Folk.'

And, finally, Daedra is EITHER DAY-druh OR DEE-druh, depending upon your inclination. DEE-druh is the Dunmeri preference and, since they made up the word, will be more acceptable come TESIII. Means 'Our Stronger, Better Ancestors.'
- http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/forum.shtml

The jump from Chimer to CHIM isn't far.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:09 pm

That pronounciation has been around for quite a while, actually. So long it's almost been forgotten:
Michael : How to Say it All

Pronounced AHLD-Mary. Means 'of the First Folk.' 'Old Mary' is a Colovian corruption, and joke.

Dwemer (the Dwarves) is DWAY-mare. Means 'Deep Folk.'

Dunmer (the Dark Elves) is doon-MARE. Means 'Dark Folk.' Colovian hicks say DUHN-merh, but the Dark Elves laugh at them or strike at them, depending upon the number of hicks present.

Chimer (precursor to Dunmer) is KY-mare. Means 'Changed Folk.' Oops! This is a secret..!

Altmer (High Elves) is AHLT-mare. Means 'High Folk.'

Bosmer (Wood Elves) is BO-mare. Means 'Green Folk.'

And, finally, Daedra is EITHER DAY-druh OR DEE-druh, depending upon your inclination. DEE-druh is the Dunmeri preference and, since they made up the word, will be more acceptable come TESIII. Means 'Our Stronger, Better Ancestors.'
- http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/forum.shtml

The jump from Chimer to CHIM isn't far.

I guess all the Morrowind dark elves are Colovian Hicks. I never heard any of the sore-pusses call themselves 'doon-mer.' But that was Redguard era lore, so maybe its just archaic. Bosmer isn't BO-mer anymore either.

Is the aldmeri tongue related to the Elnofex?

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:57 pm

Can we please [NUMINIT] a velar fricative into the Ehlnofex phoneme inventory?

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:04 pm

[censored] I've been saying it wrong!

Okay, since a huge bit of ES is (was) choice I'm gonna choose to say it with the "Ch" since I can't kick the habit of saying exactly what I see.

Pretend it is the CHIM in CHIMERA. ( pronounced KIM-AIR-A, but some people insist on pronouncing it KIM-UR-A, or KY-MARE-A)

(Ironically-- the spirits of nirn are a kind of chimera, aren't they? *giggle*)

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:37 pm

Can we please [NUMINIT] a velar fricative into the Ehlnofex phoneme inventory?

Nope.

» Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:05 pm

'KIM'

Man, that blows.

Chim as in Chimney sounds allot better. Kim is a girls name and a rather tacky one at that.

indeed....then again, i misspronounce everything. daedra for the longest time was DA-E-DRA (not day-dra, dee-dra, or anything else)

*warps back into lurking*

» Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:16 am

'Kim'

:swear:

That's no fun.

» Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:01 am

I've always pronounced it like "keem".

'Kim'

Does that count as BATW?

» Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:07 am

I've always pronounced it like "keem".

Does that count as BATW?

It's boring. Like most of TES languages.