The Prostitution Guild: erroneously missing in Oblivion, Sky

Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:57 am

Man... really? I realize that it's been in previous games and fits in with the lore, so it's not like I'm insisting that it shouldn't be in... but shouldn't that be one of the LAST things we're worried about?
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:26 am

The lore also demands Skyrim to be thousands of times bigger than it is currently portrayed.
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Laura Samson
 
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:43 pm

I'm sorry OP, but it seems like some people don't get the point of your post and through all that text they only see YOU HAVE six SIMULATOR LULZ.
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:52 am

I read all what you said. Still think it's very unfitting and more an excuse for people to jack off.
I call it more as something sick and useless, rather than mature. If it actually adds to the other atmosphere and tone of the game that's otherwise there, like in FO3, then I can accept something erotic. I certainly don't see it adding to that in Skyrim.

What makes it fit FO3 but not Skyrim? I honestly don't see why it would fit one and not the other. I agree that FO3 had more of an advlt atmosphere than Oblivion, and that type of thing does add to said atmosphere, but what I (and I believe the OP) was trying to get at is that Oblivion should have had a more advlt atmosphere than it did, and things like this could add to that atmosphere if correctly implemented. Morrowind most certainly did, as did Daggerfall. You can disagree, but I felt that Oblivion had a much less advlt tone and atmosphere than the previous TES games, largely due to the lack of any sort of underground, morally ambiguous or questionable people/places/things like drugs and six.

I certainly don't think that this should be any sort of large focus in the game, but just the simple presence of something can add a lot of tone to the game world.

P.S. I don't believe the actual prostitution guild even existed in Skyrim in the first place, and I don't think it should be an actual, join-able guild; I just want more of these seedy, underground type places, people, and groups in the game because I personally believe they make the world much more interesting, mature, and realistic. I also missed the presence of join-able religious factions like the Tribunal Temple and the Imperial Cult in Morrowind. I believe there were some quests for the Temple of the Nine, but they were very unremarkable, and it wasn't a faction like those in Morrowind.

I think that, for black and white to really stand out, there need to be various shades of gray in between them. I want the choice to be good to actually include decisions that require me to miss out on certain aspects of the world, or choose to allow myself a little gray-area. I want the choice to be bad to have an actual impact on how the world see's me, and how I see it. Oblivion lacked this severely, and I would like for more moral ambiguity in Skyrim in many different varieties.
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:36 am

Wait, like an actual guild that you can join?! I wonder what the quests would be like... O_o


In Daggerfall the prosttutes guild falls under the protection of the thieves guild.

Like the beggars in Oblivion they are the guild's eyes and ears, in turn the thieves make sure they can practice their job in safety.
Quests would range from client who didn't pay, protecting the prosttutes from other criminals (pimps), to blackmailing a noble.

It's not what all you pervs seem to think it implies.
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:19 am

I'm sorry OP, but it seems like some people don't get the point of your post and through all that text they only see YOU HAVE six SIMULATOR LULZ.

Indeed , agreed is weird how some users overdo anything that merely makes reference to anything erotic:

"Dibella:
Goddess of Beauty
Popular god of the Nine Divines. In Cyrodiil, she has nearly a dozen different cults, some devoted to women, some to artists and aesthetics, and others to erotic instruction".

Weird how people loves to chop off heads and tear intestines out of the bodies , but you mention erotic and ! :swear: oh NOES think of the children! i am very confused :unsure2:

I see a guild for Dibella a pretty interesting guild , with a lot of variations that would give lots of choices.
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Post » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:24 pm

Only if there are male prosttutes for us ladiez :hubbahubba:
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:56 pm

Indeed , agreed is weird how some users overdo anything that merely makes reference to anything erotic:

"Dibella:
Goddess of Beauty
Popular god of the Nine Divines. In Cyrodiil, she has nearly a dozen different cults, some devoted to women, some to artists and aesthetics, and others to erotic instruction".

Weird how people loves to chop off heads and tear intestines out of the bodies , but you mention erotic and ! :swear: oh NOES think of the children! i am very confused :unsure2:

I see a guild for Dibella a pretty interesting guild , with a lot of variations that would give lots of choices.

I agree. The moral tone in our world, especially here in the U.S., makes absolutely no sense to me. I really just don't understand the logic that allows for people to think of violence, blood and gore to be ok, but nudity absolutely off-limits. I just don't understand it at all :shrug:
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:19 am

In Daggerfall the prosttutes guild falls under the protection of the thieves guild.

Like the beggars in Oblivion they are the guild's eyes and ears, in turn the thieves make sure they can practice their job in safety.
Quests would range from client who didn't pay, protecting the prosttutes from other criminals (pimps), to blackmailing a noble.

It's not what all you pervs seem to think it implies.

I'm not a perv... :'(
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:35 am

Inclusion of Dibella's priestesses or even a prosttutes Guild need not mean the inclusion of nudity or six on screen (the latter I'm pretty certain won't be in any mainstream videogame) but would give a fuller, more vivid picture of Tamriel than the bowdlerized Kansas most seem to want.

Murder, hints of torture, drugs, slavery these are all acceptable in games but a glimpse of nipble or a kiss wouldn't be? :shocking:
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:29 am

There is a mod for prostitution on the PC where you play a prosttute. However, I believe you are a man who services other men, which might not be what OP had in mind.

I for one would love to see a prostitution element, it would be realistic and add more atmosphere to the game.
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:44 am

I'm all in favor of having a prosttute's guild, and have it be treated like all the small guilds. Small guilds I mean as unjoinable craftsman's guilds mentioned in the lore. (weavers, brewers, tailors, so on)

There is a mod for prostitution on the PC where you play a prosttute. However, I believe you are a man who services other men, which might not be what OP had in mind.

I for one would love to see a prostitution element, it would be realistic and add more atmosphere to the game.
Nobody is talking about being a prosttute or being able to perform sixual acts. Much in the way that there should be coopers in the game, there should not be a barrel making mini-game.
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:48 am

I'd rather not have them, but not because I object on moral grounds or think they would just be a mastvrbatory aide, like hlvr.lulz

I object, because they would draw negative attention to SR, just like ME's six scene drew negative attention to it.

Imagine the Fox News reports...
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:17 am

This would be a terrible idea, we don't need the game adding in any more controversey. Not to mention that I have no faith in BGS in this department, I mean do I need to point at Nova from FO3.
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:45 am

I'd rather not have them, but not because I object on moral grounds or think they would just be a mastvrbatory aide, like hlvr.lulz

I object, because they would draw negative attention to SR, just like ME's six scene drew negative attention to it.

Imagine the Fox News reports...
Actually, do you remember what happened when Daggerfall was released? Senator Joe Lieberman on the floor of the senate was calling Daggerfall one of the worst corrupters of the youth in our country. Sales of the game went up.

And to remind, Daggerfall was the one with a prosttute's guild and hokers in the taverns, and mostly naked priests and priestesses in the temples.
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:49 pm

Let's keep the topic on the guild

I can only see one way that this would work and it's something similar to the Siren quest in Anvil. Anything else is a bad idea not to mention that this game is about Dragons not sleezy gameplay mechanics.
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:13 am

No, I was 12 when DF was released.

Lieberman is an asshat politician.
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:21 pm

Snip


Let's keep this topic on the guild

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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:57 am

In all truth, I am not interested in having it in the game. I didnt like it in Fable, and it just make Dragon Age stressful XD I'm a girl gamer who wants to spill some guts once in a while. I love a good joke, like the Lusty Argonian Maid story, but I play Elder Scrolls for the adventure, the "middle earth" sort of RPG appeal, and the story. I feel like it would just mess with the usual, laid back and humorous, "swing a sword and chill with my kajitts" feeling of the series
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 2:44 am

I smell an idea for an epically hilarious mod.
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:47 am

Let's keep the topic on the guild

I can only see one way that this would work and it's something similar to the Siren quest in Anvil. Anything else is a bad idea not to mention that this game is about Dragons not sleezy gameplay mechanics.
I don't see it being anything like that. There would be prosttutes on the street that you could Fallout 3 hire or talk to, who go to guild meetings once a week to pay their fees and get a check-up from the doctor. Fighters Guild members would have a weekly contract to watch out for the prosttutes on their busiest days to keep them out of trouble. Most prosttutes would likely have day jobs.

No, I was 12 when DF was released.

Lieberman is an asshat politician.
I was 12 too.
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:08 am



I was asked a question. I answered.

You don't tell me or anyone else what to do.

Who the hell do you think you are? I'll post what I damn well please.
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:11 am

I was asked a question. I answered.

You don't tell me or anyone else what to do.

Who the hell do you think you are? I'll post what I damn well please.


Maybe you should read the rules and see the section where it says "No talking about Politics".
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:43 am

I don't see it being anything like that. There would be prosttutes on the street that you could Fallout 3 hire or talk to, who go to guild meetings once a week to pay their fees and get a check-up from the doctor. Fighters Guild members would have a weekly contract to watch out for the prosttutes on their busiest days to keep them out of trouble. Most prosttutes would likely have day jobs.

I was 12 too.

I don't remember anything about it. I didn't even know TES existed until I was 19.
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Post » Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:04 am

I was asked a question. I answered.

You don't tell me or anyone else what to do.

Who the hell do you think you are? I'll post what I damn well please.

No, you don't "post what you please". You follow the forum rules like everyone else does...
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