" Although customers will be able to upgrade their Standard Edition to the Imperial Edition"

https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5141/kw/explorer

The real price for the box is $80 + sub fees.

Umm, duno where you are, but the "real" box price is $60 + sub fees...


https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store?q=3f64fb31-74d7-46d1-a527-dab6793757aa&p=bfd981e9-959f-405b-8947-309135927ff1&ts=1391195430&c=zenimaxonline&e=live&rt=Safetynet&h=1b0157dd4183244bdf298a6431e54d38
http://www.gamestop.com/pc/games/the-elder-scrolls-online/101905

To get ALL the CONTENT, one must buy the CE witch is $80 One can upgrade to get the race any time, but still a pay gate

"Although customers will be able to upgrade their Standard Edition to the Imperial Edition,"

https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5141/kw/explorer

To get all the standard content, is 60 + sub. You're looking at a collector's edition bonus. It's a pretty common mistake going around.

And your point is? If you want the imperial stuff, yeah you pay for it, but 99% of people who do pay for it are unlikely to utilize ALL the game content anyway. So who is really over paying?

I would like to play as an Imperial, but i don't want all the other fancy stuff, so my "real box price" is only $60.

Then you are not getting the content that the subs are paying for. This is a pay gate.

No, I'm getting the content I payed for. I don't want the fancy horse or shnazzy imperial armor, so I'm not going to pay for it. Am I missing out on content? Technically yes, but that is fine with me because it is content I don't want.

The sub fees are for game access and server maintenance. Not content.

Then what point of a sub fee then? F2P has that also, but one have to put up with pay gates. In theory, there is no pay gates in a sub fee and one gets all the content, including all the races if used them or not, makes no diff.

It's 80$ for PC? Hmmm, consoles get the shaft again, because it's $99.99 for ps4 and Xbox One. And we don't even get any early access? Well for that extra 20$ maybe consoles will get yet another "new" race?! Uh oh, time for the mods to lock yet more threads since i said something negative about the game!... Dun dun dunnnnn!

Another route they could have gone

Full Game: $80

ESO Lite: $60

Less drama. The game is $80... you pay less if you don't want imperials

I can only hope they lock all of them.

5-0!! 5-0!!
I sincerely feel sorry for console players who want ESO.... Overpriced game + sub fees in addition to the sub fees you already pay for psn or xbox live

The real price is $60. There is also day one DLC for $20. I do not include it in the box price, but I see where you're coming from.

If you don't like strife, just take a break from the forums and come back in a week or two.

day one DLC

ugh

Again I ask, what am I paying a sub for then?