Fallout 1 and 2 took on a darker tone than the more recent fallout games. killable children and being a hoker(fluffer) are a few things. I know Bethesda well not have killable children in thier games so thats off the table so what about a fluffer? Tell me below what you think would you be a fluffer in the fallout universe if you could?What other dark stuff would you like to add in the next game?

I know this maybe hard to believe but we are a more moral culture that we where in the 90's or atleast we pretend to be. You or I maybe willing to have the ful range of human darkness in a game but it would not fly in today's world.
Then you have the media outcry over games in general can you imagine how the would react to you playing a porm star or god forbid been able to kill kids, they would get so bad that it could shelf the game or even kill the franchises

In fallout 2 you can go work a Glory Hole in the porm filming place, but they only give you 5 caps, cheap bastards. Still, I thought that was a hilarious addition to the game, and it was something small and easy to do.

There are prosttutes all over the place in New Vegas, and they are available in Fallout 3. Bethesda has never shied away from six, they are just not gratuitous about it or make it the point of the game.

Oh, putting my Moderator hat here, the OP mentioned Child Killing and rightly stated that it will not be in one of these games. I will add that we don't even discuss this particular topic here. At all. I rarely warn people as I prefer to use the PM system to get people to straighten up, but I will hand out nice long suspensions from the boards if someone tries to discuss this particular aspect.

Now, on to the hoker Talk.

Being a hoker is more 'dark' than destroying an entire town by activating a live nuclear bomb?

It'd be a nice little goofy addition I guess, not at the top of my wishlist though. (:

Fallout 2 was particularly seedy. Especially if you had a female character it could get quite... (I don't think "mature" is really proper word.)

Maybe with a setting like New Vegas (especially considering New Reno was where most of the previous debauchery was located) they could have pushed things a bit further, but by and large I think I kind of appreciate the slightly more... "classy" and mature approach the games have taken. It's all there, I just don't think it's all played for giggles and gags like Fallout 2 was, by and large.

In F2, I mean - you could sleep your way through quite a lot of the missions if you had the proper talents (and even a couple of perks you could grab along the way.) I don't think that's inherently problematic, but I honestly feel like it catered more towards adolescent male fantasizing than anything else. So while I think there's a place for sixuality in Fallout, I'd like to think Bethesda is better than that, and those goals can still be accomplished without following in those footsteps.

(ie, sure - let characters of either gender have more seduction options, for example, so long as it's serving a purpose and isn't just there because it's an M-rated game.)

OMG the Fluffer job made me sick in Fallout 2! I don't want to see any of that stuff in the new Fallout game LOL My character also contracted a disease and I had to jump through hoops to get a cure.

I think the level of Prostitution seen in NV is fine. We really don't need to top that off. I'm more interested in a solid story, good factions, multiple ways to complete a mission and the most important thing for me is that there are real consequences to my actions (please note that Bethesda!)

I now have the song "Return of the Mack" stuck in my head. Thanks

I can't agree with you more

All right another question if bethesda were to add being a hoker into fallout 4 would you give it a try?

To be honest I'm surprised the option wasn't in NV. That place in Westside with the woman pimp with all scars, with Sweety, Maude and the other guy, it felt as though she should say 'I need another girl' for some reason. Or in 3 how you can't sleep with that guy in the playboy mansion with all the booze baha.

I think in the FO universe its a realistic job tbh... considering how many you actually meet.

It is the oldest profession and I don't see why more people in Fallout aren't hokers. I'd prefer to see another place like New Reno, Vegas should have had at least a few places like that.

Its all so good from a role playing perspective.

Yeah that too. Honestly I just want the game to return to the "good ole days" of Fallout 2. I know that we can't return all the way but I think it needs to have dark humor and mature content just like the originals.

I'd really rather they didn't. Unless there were.....say....robot lovers whos neuro-computational matrix was the exact replica of a real womans.

Fluffer was only for those that couldn't cut it as a porm star

Lets hope Bethesda brings some of that dark humor back from fallout 1 and 2 for fallout 4.

I know were this is going http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SgND89KUWE

I would like to see some of the darkness come out in a game Maybe porm star, prosttute and things like that would be good to bringing back but it would need to be dark humour not a 'true' picture as that would be abit too dark

let's hope the guys at bethesda are taking notes bring back some of that dark humor we all know and love.

Next fallout needs some more male moans if you know what i mean

Not really as being a hoker is not "dark" neither is blowing up a town for "just because" is not "dark".

Yes. Yes it is. Being a hoker is not hobby when being "evil" in Fallout 3 is. In Fallout 1 and 2 I lied, stole many things just to survive. I killed innocent person because I haven't got any cash. In game where always is "good way" of playing there is no need to work in strip bar.

I blowed up Mutants base isn't that dark? Yes it is, but I did it because of good reason. After what I heard from Marcus I was ashamed what happend. When I explored the Divide I felt in the same way.

People in Megaton were pray to make that bomb explode. It was their choice to live next to it. Destroying lots of lifes just to entertained just Poor Old Guy isn't dark. This is just unrealistic. It never happend

The original games have a darkness to them that the new ones don't. I do have to agree, from what little I played. Which is little. I think the art style helps get that message across too.

Add the darkness of humanity back into Fallout? My answer should be an obvious yes.

Trying to whitewash things is the same as trying to white wash the ethical cleansing committed by Hitler upon Jews, gays, bisixuals, straights, anyone who disagreed with him, socialists, conservatives (Dear god I use that broadly.), and liberals (And once more I use that broadly!).

Let us be realistic here. There are horrible horrible people who go off and mass murder (Set any age group here that starts as young, middle aged, and old.) peoples. You can say being a prosttute, drug dealer, or mercenary is a dark area; but I will always counter saying "Look at the guy who threw those people in an oven for humor." for it shows how horrible people can be!

To long and did not read? ---> Life is harsh. There are good people and bad people. If we can be goody two-shoes then why can't we plan as ethical cleansing nut jobs no matter the person.