The same books...

Post » Thu May 19, 2011 1:55 am

I know the topic of books has been discussed before but the focus of this post is to adress Oblivion's habit of having 99% of the gameworld lined up with the same books. I mean...really? Barenziah's Biography on almost every single bookshelf in Cyrodiil? I understand it's probably kind of a really hot topic and stuff...but....really? Even repeating books like A Brief History of the Empire that had a little bit more context seemed like an excuse for lazyness. Shouldn't we have books pertaining to the actual context of the game? Books on Skyrim. Or even more so, let's have books which match their location a litte more accurately...I mean, why would a peasant have a copy of the Mages Guild Charter? I know, i know, the game normally tried to make some sense concerning this, but much more effort could have been put into it: sometimes you'd find like...10 copies of the same book on the same shelf.

I don't know if people care about this or not but while playing Oblivion I found it rather annoying to enter some house and remembering not to check the place for books because...well yeah, it was almost guaranteed they'd be the same books found anywhere else. The worst was entering the Elder Scrolls Library and finding that, besides some (not even a lot!) "rare" books, they had the usual stuff. I felt rather sad ._.
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Lily Something
 
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 4:29 pm

Yes, 3x books please.
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flora
 
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 6:07 pm

New books please, but also editions. Wouldn't it be great to track down all the first editions of books.
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Jordan Moreno
 
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 2:55 pm

Worse than having the same books is knowing that 80% of them are the same books from Morrowind, shamelessly copypasted from it.
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Ray
 
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 9:49 pm

More books, plz. And It's been two hundreds years already...
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Lauren Graves
 
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 4:44 pm

Yes, 3x 5x books please.

At least!
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pinar
 
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 4:28 am

Seeing how 200 years have passed I assume there are a lot of new things to be covered in books.
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Rob
 
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 4:14 am

It could be worse, they could go the fallout route with no readable books at all, just book-shaped skill boosts.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 2:27 pm

It could be worse, they could go the fallout route with no readable books at all, just book-shaped skill boosts.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :cryvaultboy:
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 9:54 pm

But gentlemen, remember that this is the cold, barbaric, viking-inspired North. Of course there are no books there! The only thing people know how to do there is to run around with swords and axes and pillage stuff.
derp

Seriously though, I couldn't care less. I like reading, but I don't play games to read books. I play games to play games. So to me it doesn't matter, as long as there are a few relevant and interesting books here and there.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 4:30 am

hm, i never read many of the books in TES really... but if there were any kind of hearsay-literature out there it could have all or mostly been burned sometime in the past 200 years.

some newly found Dwemer writings could have been translated in the past 200 years (maybe leading to some technological advancements).

they're probably gonna have everything that's happened in between Oblivion and Skyrim in literature. (good thing i didn't spend money on the infernal city, i bet everything that happened is going to be in some of the books)
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 11:49 pm

some newly found Dwemer writings could have been translated in the past 200 years (maybe leading to some technological advancements).

What kind of heathen blasphemy is this!? Technological advancement in our TES!? Now that's just absurd.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 5:17 am

I would love to see a larger variety of books - not just copy-pastes from Morrowind - but I wouldn't want to see books everywhere. This is Skyrim, a place where lore is quite possibly still transmitted orally by skalds... books should be rare and expensive, perhaps only to be found in the libraries of very rich people and in monasteries.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 5:50 pm

It's been 200 years, there will be loads of new books :thumbsup:
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 10:44 pm

I think it would be cool if they wrote books about accounts of the Champion of Cyrodiil, what happened after the Oblivion crisis, etc. That way we could get some closure on Oblivion too. :P
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 4:34 pm

I think it would be cool if they wrote books about accounts of the Champion of Cyrodiil, what happened after the Oblivion crisis, etc. That way we could get some closure on Oblivion too. :P


I was just thinking the same thing :P. Add some books that discuss and anolyses the events that happened in Oblivion. Makes perfect sense and would be worth reading IMO :P.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 4:43 pm


some newly found Dwemer writings could have been translated in the past 200 years (maybe leading to some technological advancements).



I'm pretty sure that we've been told that as a whole (Dwemer ruins aside.) Skyrim will have less advanced technology than Oblivion, so I doubt that would happen.

But anyway, I expect we'll see both books returning from old games and new ones in Skyrim, at the same time, though, as I said in another thread on the subject of books, I wouldn't be surprised if their less common (And hopefully more expensive as a result.) I envision Skyrim as a place with a lower literacy rate than Cyrodiil and Vvardenfell as we were shown in the games they appeared. That's not to say we won't be able to read books, just that they'd be less common, possibly more the sort of thing that nobles would occupy their time with.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 3:32 pm

It could be worse, they could go the fallout route with no readable books at all, just book-shaped skill boosts.

:o :lol: :rofl:

Good one man, you had me going there for a minute!
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 12:29 am

Worse than having the same books is knowing that 80% of them are the same books from Morrowind, shamelessly copypasted from it.


i dont know how many books were just copied from morrowind, 80% of total literature is definitely too much, but i dont see why skyrim shouldnt have most of the books from skyrim and oblivion. and dont confuse it with 'most of the books in skyrim should be copied from OB an MW'

1. it fits the idea that MW, OB and Skyrim are all part of one world so naturally books that occur in one province would probably also occur in the other

2. some people havent played TES before skyrim so now theyd have a chance to read books form OB and MW
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 6:19 am

i dont know how many books were just copied from morrowind, 80% of total literature is definitely too much, but i dont see why skyrim shouldnt have most of the books from skyrim and oblivion. and dont confuse it with 'most of the books in skyrim should be copied from OB an MW'

1. it fits the idea that MW, OB and Skyrim are all part of one world so naturally books that occur in one province would probably also occur in the other

2. some people havent played TES before skyrim so now theyd have a chance to read books form OB and MW

And Daggerfall.

A good chunk of books in Morrowind and Oblivion came from Daggerfall.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 7:16 pm

What kind of heathen blasphemy is this!? Technological advancement in our TES!? Now that's just absurd.

ancient crude explosives FTW!!!
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 5:44 pm

As long as books are readable and can be positioned accurately I will be pleased, I think bethesda underestimate how many people enjoy having their own library of books (Mainly because they are fun to collect if you can read/display them).
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 9:43 pm

Daggerfall had many books... and many rare ones... still searching the game for the real barinzea... I've heard there were some *scenes* which were taken out in the next games...
and my current DF characters name is Lord Zanipal Hlaalu, so... yeah... I'm currently thinking of bringing him into Skyrim...
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 5:59 am

As someone else said , it's been 200 years... there shoudl be tons and tons of new books by now. Morrowind and Oblivion were relatively close timeline wise (as far as I know?) So that could be excused that way, but now that a lot of time has passed, that doesn't apply anymore
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 8:41 pm

Yes, I agree.
please no more copy/ pasted book cases with the same books in em every time.
It was especially horrible in places like a mages guild, where they had four book cases.
All exactly the same, same books on same place.
It had a cheap and lazy look to it.

Also: no more manuals of armour or weaponry. That stuff belongs in the manual.
Especially if its so horribly written as to state 'orchish' is a metal. :nope:
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