The Setting : V

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:03 pm

So guys, I'm so happy that the fifth is coming out (YAY!), and I hate to sound like a [censored], but is anyone else concerned about the setting? I just think it might get a bit boring, and a bit annoying, to be in a world which is constantly snowing. I'm not so fond of the thought of constantly facing the conditions of Bruma like we saw in Oblivion.
Sorry for complaining so early on, but what are your opinions on the new setting? :blush:

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:57 pm

So guys, I'm so happy that the fifth is coming out (YAY!), and I hate to sound like a [censored], but is anyone else concerned about the setting? I just think it might get a bit boring, and a bit annoying, to be in a world which is constantly snowing. I'm not so fond of the thought of constantly facing the conditions of Bruma like we saw in Oblivion.
Sorry for complaining so early on, but what are your opinions on the new setting? :blush:

I like snow, I like TES Nords, I like vikings and I like Norse/German mythology and culture. I'm quite content.

» Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:59 am

I feel the same way as you. I mean deep down I know that Bethesda will make a great game no matter what, but I really really hope Skyrim isn't all snow, mountains, and shades of grey. I want a diverse world with jungles, forests, swamps, mountains, cities and plains. I dearly hope that the game world isn't just a mountainous, fantasy version of Antarctica.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:36 pm

Never knew that it would be constantly snowing, kinda svcks but i can get over it.

Even tho im not a PC gamer, i know for sure there will be a mod for it.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:17 pm

Why do people seem to think that Skyrim is nothing more than a big block of ice? There are temperate zones, you know. Think of it as more like Canada, than Greenland.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:12 am

I feel the same way as you. I mean deep down I know that Bethesda will make a great game no matter what, but I really really hope Skyrim isn't all snow, mountains, and shades of grey. I want a diverse world with jungles, forests, swamps, mountains, cities and plains. I dearly hope that the game world isn't just a mountainous, fantasy version of Antarctica.

Exactly how I feel. That's why I was hoping for something along the lines of Valenwood, High Rock, or Elsweyr. Hopefully the bottom half of the continent is a bit greener, but I don't see how that could be the case. :l

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:29 pm

Was Solstheim boring?

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:15 pm

Yes, Skyrim is going to be nothing but ice, snow, and mountains. Absolutely nothing else. Yep, don't try to argue against it.

Okay, turning off the sarcasm, but what we have been currently told from the pocket guides, the only places that are what I described is the southern and southeastern portions of Skyrim. Everywhere else is going to be more like Norway, Canada, Iceland, etc.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:21 pm

I used to worry about the same things, but I don't anymore. I'm sure it will have some variety. Of course, I'm expecting a majority of it to be snowy, but a majority of Morrowind's terrain was ashlands and a majority of Oblivion's terrain was forest. Before Morrowind, Vvardenfell was all ashlands, yet there were some extra terrain types added on the sides. Before Oblivion, Cyrodiil was all jungle. Now, it's got some variety, as well. I expect Skyrim will have snow, but like its predecessors, I expect it to change our perception of its relative setting.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:55 pm

Why do people seem to think that Skyrim is nothing more than a big block of ice? There are temperate zones, you know. Think of it as more like Canada, than Greenland.

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» Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:26 pm

I'm pretty sure they're be more than just snowy terrain. It'll probably be snow-capped mountains, but some green pastures spread about as well, along with whatever the new Daedric/Ayleid-ruin style structures will be.

I do hope that it doesn't get too crazy though. I did like Morrowind's different environment, as if it were alien-like, but I do hope Skyrim keeps it closer to a Scandinavian design. I'd like to see more architecture though. Perhaps most cities will be wooden villages, but the capital of Skyrim or some major point will be a city similar to Gondor from LOTR?

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:02 pm

Yes, Skyrim is going to be nothing but ice, snow, and mountains. Absolutely nothing else. Yep, don't try to argue against it.

Okay, turning off the sarcasm, but what we have been currently told from the pocket guides, the only places that are what I described is the southern and southeastern portions of Skyrim. Everywhere else is going to be more like Norway, Canada, Iceland, etc.

Hopefully it'll be like Canada. The region of Canada I'm from has desert regions as well as rainforests and snowy mountains.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:34 pm

Why do people seem to think that Skyrim is nothing more than a big block of ice? There are temperate zones, you know. Think of it as more like Canada, than Greenland.

Same reason they think I live on a block of ice maybe. :unsure:

I do hope they get the sound of crunching squeaky snow right. The snow in Bloodmoon and in Oblivions north sounded squishy like snow in warmer climates. That really bothered me for some reason.

» Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:48 am

Never knew that it would be constantly snowing, kinda svcks but i can get over it.

Even tho im not a PC gamer, i know for sure there will be a mod for it.

Nah, I didn't say it WOULD be snowing (I have no idea tbh), but I'm just assuming.

Why do people seem to think that Skyrim is nothing more than a big block of ice? There are temperate zones, you know. Think of it as more like Canada, than Greenland.

Well I think it's reasonable to assume that, since Bruma reflected it and Bruma is even farther away from the north.
Actually, you have a big point though. It's almost certain to get warmer towards Hammerfell, and conditions should also change towards High Rock of Vvardenfell.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:53 pm

I'm with you on that. I don't want to be playing in the snow all 1,000 + hours I'm spending on that game. I'm sure that we can be spending time in tundras, but honestly that's the only change that I can see so far. Who knows though, maybe there's more than meets the eye when it comes to Skyrim.

Also hoping for some DLC that allows us to visit other parts of Tamriel. It would be nice to go back to Morrowind after 12 years, hahaha

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:39 pm

Well I think it's reasonable to assume that, since Bruma reflected it and Bruma is even farther away from the north.

I always thought it would be reasonable to simply disregard everything that Oblivion taught you, regarding the geography of Tamriel.

Maybe it's just me, though. :shrug:

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:35 pm

I wouldn't mind having mostly snow, with green patches around hot springs where cities would be built... Icewind dale and icewind dale 2 never bored me and almost all you see is snow and ice. Random but I still load those games up every winter for some reason...

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:48 pm

Even if it were all snow (I doubt it: Skyrim isn't Hoth), it would still be interesting to see how the Nords adapted to the environs and such. Still, I expect variety. You might have been pardoned for thinking Vvardenfell was nothing but ash before Morrowind came out, but we were pleasantly surprised by the variety. Oblivion's Cyrodiil was disappointing, but I'm sure they've learned their lesson. I'm not worried.

» Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:28 am

Even if it were all snow (I doubt it: Skyrim isn't Hoth), it would still be interesting to see how the Nords adapted to the environs and such. Still, I expect variety. You might have been pardoned for thinking Vvardenfell was nothing but ash before Morrowind came out, but we were pleasantly surprised by the variety. Oblivion's Cyrodiil was disappointing, but I'm sure they've learned their lesson. I'm not worried.

I didn't think Cyrodiil was disappointing in the least. There were mountains, plains, forests, and snowy areas. Perfectly diverse. That's what I loved about it. My fear is that Skyrim will be mostly, is not all, snowy mountains. We won't even have the option to go to warm jungles and forests.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:25 am

I didn't think Cyrodiil was disappointing in the least. There were mountains, plains, forests, and snowy areas. Perfectly diverse. That's what I loved about it. My fear is that Skyrim will be mostly, is not all, snowy mountains. We won't even have the option to go to warm jungles and forests.

Nice to see someone else who felt this way.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:45 pm

Even if it were all snow (I doubt it: Skyrim isn't Hoth), it would still be interesting to see how the Nords adapted to the environs and such. Still, I expect variety. You might have been pardoned for thinking Vvardenfell was nothing but ash before Morrowind came out, but we were pleasantly surprised by the variety. Oblivion's Cyrodiil was disappointing, but I'm sure they've learned their lesson. I'm not worried.

I didn't think Cyrodiil was disappointing in the least. There were mountains, plains, forests, and snowy areas. Perfectly diverse. That's what I loved about it. My fear is that Skyrim will be mostly, is not all, snowy mountains. We won't even have the option to go to warm jungles and forests.

Well I think they need to go even more diverse this time. In Oblivion, the only real mountains were around the edges, and there weren't enough areas that weren't forest.
At best, there'll be desert towards Hammerfell, snowy mountainous regions in the middle, and forests and rivers and greenery towards Cyrodiil, Morrowind and High Rock.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:38 pm

Yeah, but what I meant was that Vvardenfell was more spectacular than we were led to believe. On the other hand, Cyrodiil ended up being significantly different (and in my view, less impressive). I was looking for my glorious Imperial City with rivers, gilded buildings, and gondolas, as we might have expected from The Real Barenziah and others. I was looking for the 1st PGE's rainforests. Essentially, I was greatly looking forward to the contrast of gleaming white marble buildings with verdant vines and such growing on them: the Romans in the place of the Mayans.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:54 pm

On the backdrop during Todd's announcement, you can already see that only the mountain tops are covered in snow. The valleys offer a lot of possible variety in vegetation and terrain.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:59 pm

On the backdrop during Todd's announcement, you can already see that only the mountain tops are covered in snow. The valleys offer a lot of possible variety in vegetation and terrain.

Exactly. I imagine a nice variation of temperate, sub-arctic, arctic and sometimes sub-tropical climates (tropical being hidden places or so). For inspiration on variations in Norse-like landscapes I find Valhalla Rising to be a good film cinematographic wise.

» Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:44 am

I can imagine it being a lot more exciting than you give it credit, dark gloomy and very mysterious.