The Snow Elves : V

» Tue May 17, 2011 5:24 am

It is believed that the Falmer were the original elven inhabitants of Skyrim, the northernmost province of the continent, and were defeated and displaced by the Nords. The Pocket Guide to the Empire's, Skyrim chapter mentions the Snow Elves as a local superstition, with Nord villagers blaming them for a number of random misfortunes and scant physical evidence of their existence.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Falmer

Extensive discussion in the Lore Forum on the little fellas, ages before we knew TES:V would be in Skyrim:
http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1054304-falmer/

The new setting presents an opportunity to address the fate of the Snow Elves once and for all - or to simply expand the lore. How would you like the lost race of mer to be handled in TES:V?

Personally, I think extremely rare and hard to find instances of Falmer would mesh best with the lore, and be the most interesting option, possibly with quests revolving around them to either reconcile them or wipe them out entirely. PGE 1st Edition on Skyrim, which I've been studying intently, says that runes and some artifacts remain - it would be intriguing to see and to harness powerful and ancient relics from the first wars between men and mer.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:00 am

Well it would be nice to run into one by a quest means but I don't want the option to be a snow elf though.

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:43 am

Or maybe they're the enemy everyone thought was long gone?

» Tue May 17, 2011 5:34 am

Like the Ayleids, minus them coming back.

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:37 pm

I think it would be cool if there was a small village of them,but I don't like the idea of them being a playable race. Perhaps you visit them as part of the story?

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:18 am

Or maybe they're the enemy everyone thought was long gone?

Now there's a suggestion!

The Falmer could apply to these statements;

"When the sons of Skyrim would spill their own blood. (A stretch, but the Falmer have as much right to be called 'sons of Skyrim' as the invader Nords)
But no-one wanted to believe.
Believe they even existed." (definitely applies to Falmer)

Still, I doubt it - I don't recall any connection between Falmer and dragons, and if the Falmer do exists, it's unlikely they'd be able to threaten Skyrim after the last beating they took.

» Tue May 17, 2011 5:18 am

I like the idea of visiting a small falmer village, hidden by magical protections. You need to visit some ancient priest to aid you in the main quest.

» Tue May 17, 2011 8:43 am

Now there's a suggestion!

The Falmer could apply to these statements;

"When the sons of Skyrim would spill their own blood. (A stretch, but the Falmer have as much right to be called 'sons of Skyrim' as the invader Nords)
But no-one wanted to believe.
Believe they even existed." (definitely applies to Falmer)

Still, I doubt it - I don't recall any connection between Falmer and dragons, and if the Falmer do exists, it's unlikely they'd be able to threaten Skyrim after the last beating they took.

It is still a possability, one of which I would love to see happen. =]

» Tue May 17, 2011 10:55 am

Still, I doubt it - I don't recall any connection between Falmer and dragons

Yeah, that's the same stumbling block I came up across

And your last point holds good too. I really can't think of anywhere for them to go to regroup and rebuild. I don't really see them fleeing to Atmora

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:58 am

I liked the mysteriousness of the Dwemer and finding the old artifacts.. but at the same time I wished there was some way to meet one. But maybe that's better. The mystery not the actual meeting of. Not sure.
I voted some remote surviving few who live in isolation.. Although the mystery and non appearance would probably be more fun to explore.

» Tue May 17, 2011 9:37 am

I'd say mostly like the Ayleids, with maybe a little bit of the more mysterious dwmer feel mixed in for a stronger feel, iwth that small remote remaining Falmer villiage that you have to visit as part of a quest that gives you some (but definitely not all) of the answers to the mysteries of the Falmer.

» Tue May 17, 2011 9:15 am

I'd prefer seeing them appear in a minor way. To be a major part of the story may be a bit much... but I'd be fine with it if they did it well. Like the last dwarf.

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:56 pm

Yeah, that's the same stumbling block I came up across

And your last point holds good too. I really can't think of anywhere for them to go to regroup and rebuild. I don't really see them fleeing to Atmora

The Falmer could also apply to the first parts of the monologue:
"You should have acted.
They're already here. (hidden away, in remote mountains or caves, as suggested by superstitious Nords in PGE1stE?)
The Elder Scrolls told of their return. (return - we know they have been banished once)
Their defeat was merely delay" (defeat at the Battle of the Moesring?)

The dragon aspect, remains a stumbling block. However, we know from Fall of The Snow Prince that they had powerful magicks - could they have used it to remain hidden, whilst rebuilding and conspiring with dragons (of Akavir?) to retake Skyrim for the mer?

All of this is rampant speculation, of course, but it kind of fits.

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:43 pm

The Falmer could also apply to the first parts of the monologue:
"You should have acted.
They're already here. (hidden away, in remote mountains or caves, as suggested by superstitious Nords in PGE1stE?)
The Elder Scrolls told of their return. (return - we know they have been banished once)
Their defeat was merely delay" (defeat at the Battle of the Moesring?)

The dragon aspect, remains a stumbling block. However, we know from Fall of The Snow Prince that they had powerful magicks - could they have used it to remain hidden, whilst rebuilding and conspiring with dragons (of Akavir?) to retake Skyrim for the mer?

All of this is rampant speculation, of course, but it kind of fits.

It's rampant speculation, but it's one of the ideas I like the best. I mean, that would be one hell of a conflict!

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:00 am

Have the Skaal ever been wrong....oh wait...

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:12 am

I'm fully expecting there to be "Falmer ruins" in Skyrim right now. Just like how we had Dwemer ruins in Morrowind and Ayleids ruins in Cyrodiil. And I wouldn't mind it at all.

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:01 am

I kinda hope the ideas floating around this thread are true...it would be epic on a huge scale

» Tue May 17, 2011 5:11 am

Dead. Deader than dead. So dead, the nords still celebrate with gusto!

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:07 am

Dead. Deader than dead. So dead, the nords still celebrate with gusto!

"Their defeat was merely a delay..."

"No one wanted to believe... Believe they even existed."

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:32 am

The Falmer could also apply to the first parts of the monologue:
"You should have acted.
They're already here. (hidden away, in remote mountains or caves, as suggested by superstitious Nords in PGE1stE?)
The Elder Scrolls told of their return. (return - we know they have been banished once)
Their defeat was merely delay" (defeat at the Battle of the Moesring?)

The dragon aspect, remains a stumbling block. However, we know from Fall of The Snow Prince that they had powerful magicks - could they have used it to remain hidden, whilst rebuilding and conspiring with dragons (of Akavir?) to retake Skyrim for the mer?

All of this is rampant speculation, of course, but it kind of fits.

I'm pretty sure "they" refers to Dragons? Not Falmer. I could be dead wrong, though.

EDIT: Oh, boy! My first star!

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:49 am

A mix of the ayleids and the dwenmer mystery. It would be cool to have a remote village of them or at least just one remain much like that dwenmer guy.

» Tue May 17, 2011 11:44 am

EDIT: Oh, boy! My first star!

Congrats

At the rate I've been going, I'll get my next star in about 5 and a half years

» Tue May 17, 2011 6:58 am

Congrats

At the rate I've been going, I'll get my next star in about 5 and a half years

Nice. :thumbsup:

» Tue May 17, 2011 11:56 am

I'm pretty sure "they" refers to Dragons? Not Falmer. I could be dead wrong, though.

EDIT: Oh, boy! My first star!

to be honest they never say who "they" are. Sure there is a dragon in the teaser but it would just be for epic effect.

» Tue May 17, 2011 7:22 am

Apparently the nords kicked out all the mer.
I could see there possibly being small caves inhabited by them, or maybe there ghosts.
However, they could actually be reiklings, which Im expecting to see quite often in Skyrim.
High Rock apparently has a cave called Glacier Crawl, which is inhabited by light blue skinned mer believed to be the Falmer.
Lore says no cities were left behind by the Falmer, so that kinda kills the ruins idea, doesnt it?