You're forgetting that we are talking about the Imperial Center here. All of your points are irrelevant when talking about the richest, most populated metropolitan honeypot on the continent.

You couldn't wield two weapons at once in Morrowind either.


And they also had much more wood than Morrowind, probably making arrows easier.

Nope, but it's pretty much the same as switching with the hot keys.



Who needs wood when you have Corkbulb and Chitin?

Spears are made of wood, too.

And at long last it comes full circle back to the spears.

They probably didn't want to make another set of attack animations. It's also probably why they didn't make thrown weapons.

...and thus they simplified the game.

Thank you for agreeing.

Time for Tea, methinks.

The "dumbing down" accusations are getting a little ridiculous. Although I do agree with the removal of spears being a silly move, I don't think it has anything to do with the console audience becoming confused and enraged by their complexity.

They abandoned certain aspects in order to improve others. Bethesda only has so many employees, and TES fans only have so much patience.

A better way to go about it, is to have it in development long before you let anything out on it. EG-- you have multiple games in concurrent development, that way you can ride the tide of one release, while developing the next. This allows you to have the long development time you need to produce a quality game without petty sacrifices (that arent really needed), and still have a reasonably short release cycle.

The sad thing is it's pretty much the same physics equation...

At least, if I remember anything about physics.

Really depends on how annoying havok is.

No, I think it certifies as 'dumbed down', but not in the sense that consolers would be like 'Uhg, spear make confused. Urgh uhhhh.' but more like everything was minimized to make it easier to navigate for a console interface, you know?

"Dumbing down" is an absurdly loaded term to describe what's really just a reduction in stuff, for whatever reason. I'd say everyone got gipped.

Smaller, thus, less complex, meaning, indeed, 'dumbed down'.

I suppose everyone did get screwed, but it just didn't have to happen.

They'd have to create new animations for holding it, including walking, running, swimming, firing, reloading, being staggered, etc. And then there's the complication that it uses different ammunition than arrows do.


But they improved bow mechanics greatly.

Do you ever express a thought reflecting your own tastes and opinions, or just make excuses for the laziness of other people? A limitless flow of moderating statements is irrelevant here.

Like you could actually do better than Bethesda? Besides, spears were relatively weak (with the exception of the Spear of Bitter Mercy and the Spear of the Hunter) and only really were useful if you run backwards a lot. If you want a far-reaching weapon, there are warhammers, which also do a lot more damage. For that matter, thrown weapons were pretty weak compared to bows, and crossbows had inferior ammunition and only got as good as Dwarven.

What's your point?

There are no spears because very little detail was put into the animations.

Since Morrowind was the only TES game out of all nine TES games that included them, I suppose that they must just be a Dunmer specialty.

lolhai guyz i just bot this gam and i found this spear but i cant swing it and slice pple bcuz it dosnt hav a blad. o and wat button do i use to run? plz help kthnxbye

In some respects, I think so. In others, they are far beyond anyone here, I believe.

And they've got the money.

The lack of spears doesn't make sense and it seems like they took out something that should be but instead due to there not making it it has become something that is not and that is not something that is good to be as it is a should and should not be a not even thou it is. I miss spears they were my favorite weapons aside from the Khajiit natural claws so yeah this game really like let me down with all it has that is naught when it so clearly should be ought.

Another thing; if spears were in the game, then we'd see people making mods where you somehow acquire and wield Muatra. :blink:

Edit: I wonder whether that would be considered advlt content.

So mods are there to give the player the option to make or get what they want.

I was responding to Nomad's post (he was not around under this id at the time) and others previous paw-prints:






:rofl: repression - you're a card paw-prints - business nubee maybe?
You do understand that corporations have to negociate bizzare and convolute agreements called contracts? Such proposals are finalised by lawyers - you know about lawyers? That is after department heads (technical and marketing), major stockholders, and accountants have all gotten together to decide where their cut is coming from? And also that consoles are in a relatively 'fixed format' - they avoid costs that PC manufacturers incur by not changing their basic structure for a decade or so. But on top of that they all have an 'image' that they manipulate to target various sections of the population and thus they make decisions based not only on the tastes of people who might buy one game, but rather on the tastes and likely reactions of people who normally buy all their other games too ... = individual developers have to fit in with that- even gamesas.

Umm what does 'they own the forum' have to do with anything anyone said? Maybe you would like to reassess your statement's lack of connnection to anything germaine?

Or were you making an unfounded accusation that someone was accusing gamesas Devs of flaming others? I can't see anything else in there. You're making one hell of an accusation against gamesas if that's the case paw-prints

If you had been following events in the run up to the Ob release then you might have noted that as the links with the consoles became stronger the flaming of fans that suggested alternatives to various development options increased exponentially - astounding and out of character given the nature of content by console players previous to that time. Now I always thought that this flaming was by console-oriented dummies who had never actually played ES and wanted another 'action' game rather than an RPG - your statement appears to suggest that it was the devs in disguise ... are you sure that was the impression you wanted to give - or did you misunderstand what was posted??