Your serious?!?!?! :brokencomputer:

The GI magazine is doing a 14 page write up on Skyrim :celebration: The LARGEST COVER STORY EVER BY GAME INFORMER!!

Can't wait.... almost driving me insane. I will not be able to get any work done next week!

? Isn't that supposed to come out mid-January? like between the 15th and 20th?

Well, they're revealing the cover, at the very least, on the sixth. The magazine might also be shipping at that time, but I'm not sure on that one.

Funniest GD thread I've read on any forum in a long time

Seems like everything makes sense , I just hope there is some surprises in the story though.

What bothers me more is how they seemed to keep them a secret all that time and now seem to try anything to make them into something evil.

Even with the theory that they are now not "bound" to the empire anymore why couldn't they just be, you know, living entities that are NOT either bound to serve OR destroy?
This is a HUGE failure of fantasy, they just can't go the way of making creatures just something that lives, they HAVE to follow a "good or evil" path. Why not just make dragons highly intelligent animals that are NOT bound on either attacking everything OR be the honorable servants of mankind?


I really hope the whole "dragons attacking" thing really is just a front and truly they have something else and actually interesting planned.
As I mentioned before, a quote by Haxao Miyazaki:
"In order to grow your audience, you must betray their expectations."

I just hope they go by that instead of the obvious.

yeah i cant wait for the real info to come out. too many questions and different ways it could really be, been trying to keep busy and take my mind off it until mid january when the mag comes out. :wacko:

Bump. The forum has been busy today. Fell all the way down, maybe discussion is dead which is fine but just incase someone visiting the forums hasn't seen this yet im bumping it.

:shakehead: There is no way Akatosh is going to be a bad guy. I am not a lore expert, read a lot of the mentioned books in game in Oblivion. Now, playing Morrowwind and reading many of the same books.
I agree that most people 'just play' but Bethesda make it pretty clear who the good, and who the bad guys are.
Take SI, it was pretty clear to any idiot that Sheogotath was, to say the least 'iffie'.
You always have a pretty clear idea when you are given choices which way they lean. Good/Bad.
No way will they spin that around now.
I've seen no indication ever in the games that caters to the 'if you have a good enough reason to do it, a bad thing is ok' ethic found in most other games.
Or real life for that matter.
That said: :foodndrink: awesome post!! Awesome theory!! :bowdown:

Hmm.. perhaps more like the ones in world of warcraft where you become part of their war against something universally bad?

You then need to read up on Alduin. Go http://www.imperial-library.info/ and search for materials relating to Alduin (who is Akatosh to the nords) to gain a better idea.

I can't speculate on who the Dovah'kiin will be but one thing is for certain, the character is always born to uncertain parents under an uncertain sign. I believe your probably right about him being the fourth dragon born. As for the plot you have unfolded here, I have no doubt the dragons are trying to get back their connection to Aetherius by destroying all men but I don't believe that Akatosh will be leading them. I don't remember in any of the lore of how the Amulet of Kings controlled the dragons. The dragon fires were divine because they were from the last divine dragon, Akatosh. Everyone believed the dragons to be extinct and couldn't possibly be used to light the dragon fires. Dragons hail from Akavir and their "defeat" was merely a delay would refer to the failed invasion by Akavir. Hopefully we see the Tiger dragon and the serpent people of Akavir. A mass invasion from Akavir would make Skyrim the most epic TES game of all time...period.

Yeah, alduin/akatosh is an interesting one.
i mean he is both loved and revered by pretty much all the races and nations of tamriel, they all have some version of him.
i have been giving this a bit of thought lately, and perhaps the dragon born is just a general title given to some messiah reincarnate.[aldu-rine?]
i mean you have to notice that its a reoccurring cycle in tes games to have people just plain live forever. or get reincarnated.

say for instance that the nerevarine was actually an aspect of azura. St Nerevar was the [Azur-ine?]
they are mortal emissaries of their respective aedric/daedric-gods, like the shezzarine [which i hope is important..love hearing about lorkhan]

[also..i just added so many words to my browsers dictionary....tes lore is now relevant to my spellcheck.]

Thats what makes good stories, ironic twists and turns. You are thinking on a basic good vs. evil fantasy cliche story level.

Cipher 8, what part of Bethesda's development team do you work for? You were so on the mark it's scary. The translated song lyrics (which were apparently never in English) seem to agree with your idea about Alduin getting hungry and ordering a world to go in TES 5.

This was a real interesting read.
And given what has recently been revealed, it looks like you are dead on, if not then at least a bit right.

Kudos+ :thumbsup:

Agreed, excellent eyes Cipher 8 thank you for culminating your search and humble posting it instead of placing it as a indisputable definitive, thank you for your search and shedding light.

Got to give you a lot of credits for working this theory out, read this thread a couple of days ago and it al seemed very interesting but now with the translation of the lyrics it seems you're right and there is a lot more info in your theory than in the short translation of the magazine cover

http://kimsal.com/rabbit_pancake.jpg


no but in all seriousness that is by far the best theory Ive heard in a long time, and so I feel obligated to believe it

Well done, Cipher! Seems you hit the nail right on the head... at least as far as I can tell for the moment with all the new info that has just been released. You are to be commended! :celebration:

If your theory is correct I will be very happy with the story of Skyrim

So on a side (but related) note. I am seeing a possibility of this game having multiple endings similar to Daggerfall.

1. Civil war, maybe the player would be able to choose a faction
2. Heavy involvement of Akatosh = the possibility of time manipulation is wide open ........ Dragon Break (ish) event ?

When I got that poem decoded and found name Alduin I remembered Ciphers theory and it felt even more right than before. Alduin/Akatosh revered differently by different cultures gives the plot makers a wonderful option to make truly epic game with several alternate endings. When we all are again born 11.11.11. from uncertain parents and get freed from a prison, we do not know who we are, who is good or evil, and it is just possible that we can deciede it by ourselves and make the gaming experience very different each time.

I just wonder these forums will be in chaos, when people choose different paths in-game and side with the opposite factions and deities believing there is only a single right solution and everybody believes his got the right one and thinks the others are utterly doomed. Until the truth finally dawns to all of us and we see the game can be played in many different ways with no set right or wrong. Then we start playing again in a different way and our world has become cyclic instead of linear.

It will be a civil war in Skyrim, but on this forum as well...

Damn that is some lore heavy theory crafting
Seems reasonable and seeing the aedra as potential villains would be interesting.

Awesome theory, and amazing work you did documenting and backing all your finds. It was an incredible read too.
Hadn't posted earlier but I've pointed out the topic in a few other plot topics. Hopefully itll incite people to think there theorys through at least half as well as this one...


And the idea of going up against Akatosh is just .... *gah* 10 months....