It's already the 4th era...

From what I've heard your the last Dragonborn or Dragonblood as the Blades are pretty much Extinct. My guess is that the gods, Talos in particular because of the connection that Tiber Septim had with Skyrim, He has a mission for you and you become the 4th Dragonborn and take on Akatosh or something similar to Akatosh. So I think you got some of it right but time will tell.

Well The Terror of Death, if that's right then I guessed that the Dovahkiin would be a shezzarine, or avatar of Shor/Lorkhan. Not really Talos but I posted awhile back how Talos might have had something to do with Shor as well as the other dragonborns Alessia and Reman having connections to him.

Your right though time will tell. I just want my magazine so i can know more about it, i still don't know anything is there like a summerization thread about what has been confirmed or not.

I still stand by my statement that Alduin cannot be Akatosh seeing as Akatosh can not physically affect Nirn. Also Shor is just an echo of Lorkhan and has no real power seeing as how echoes are just imprints of the person. Lorkhan is dead and doesn't exist in Mundus anymore other than his body being the twin moons of Nirn and his heart being destroyed by the Nerevarine. Aedra can die because of the power they lost being tricked by Lorkhan to build Nirn. Alduin will be some kind of shadowy apparition spawned from the power of Akatosh when Nirn was created or something of the sorts. I'm sure Bethesda will have a better story of what Alduin is then I do.



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Wow, you were really close to the mark in your delineation of Alduin's role in Skyrim.

Also, the dragons of Akavir didn't go to Cyrodiil, the dragons of Morrowind did. The dragons of Morrowind were driven out by the invading Cliffracers. Then Cyrus kills one of them bwahahaha.

I cannot remove my jaw from the floor. I find this whole thread to be amazing and only partially comprehensible, but I can't wait to learn enough about the lore to understand it.

I also can't add anything constructive except a thumbs up and a whole heap of appreciation for you fine folks :thumbsup:

Looking over all the info that i missed out on over the week and trying to catch up I couldn't help but notice in the map from the Behind the Scenes of Skyrim video a part of it said "Jsashes Claim" and that struck me because I remember reading (and posting somewhere) about Jsashe. A woman/witch in control of the area around High Hrothgar and Whiterun, in central Skyrim. Which is where that note is marked on the map. She is the leader of that area's local witches coven, and a self-proclaimed Priestess of Lorkhan.



I'm pretty sure she will play a part in the game whether it's a side part or a main story part is yet to be seen. None the less looking forward to seeing how they do witches in Skyrim.

Unless Jsashe can live for centuries, she probably won't be alive in Skyrim...One of her descendant might.

all the Nerevarine did was disconnect Dagoth it from the heart and phase it out of this existence not destroy it and if you actually -look- you will see that Akatosh is Alduin to the Nords.

There is still something bugging me about the teaser speech -

you should have acted..... the elder scrolls told of their return

the second part, big deal, the elder scrolls tells the entire history so of course they told of their return

but the first part "you should have acted" - how could we have known - have we had access to the elder scrolls ? do we have some in our possession ?

i think this only really affects the back story to the dovakiin character, but can maybe rule out starting in a prison - a prisoner is unlikely to get access to the elder scrolls. any thoughts ?

I suspect it was talking about the Septim emperors. The Elder Scrolls fortold the return of dragons and the Septims did absolutely nothing to prepare. Now 200 years later, Tamriel is in turmoil, the Blades are going the way of the Jedi and dragons have appeared to flame up the world (literally).

We're probably gonna be the guy that cleans up their mess.

I am not so sure that is about the septim line generically -

"you should have acted, they are already here"

sounds pretty much like he is talking to someone in the present

edit - also i think septim line must have been able to get some information from the elder scrolls to send "someone" to help out with the red mountain business - it would explain how they had a good idea the prisoner was the nevarrine - so i dont think you could accuse the septim line of doing nothing with the elder scrolls.

it is also supposed to be pretty hard to get meaningful info out of the scrolls so it is a pretty hard line by the narrator.

I agree, sounds like he's talking to someone in the present. If I understood the setup correctly, all the events in the previous games are "signs" that Alduin will return to eat the world, and the last sign is the breakout of civil war in Skyrim. In that way, it makes sense that the line is uttered AFTER the civil war is started, because that is the final sign, AND it is mentioned in the teaser as a reason why the scrolls told of their return. I'm thinking it might be Esbern adressing the Greybeards, or a ruling council/ruler.

You should have acted, they are all ready here.

I feel that this is infact directed to Talos, or Tiber Septim himself. He was once mortal, but then assended to join the divines. However, if his power is indead growing smaller he might choose to instead of sending an avatar, he could return to our world. Talos would probably know full well what was on the Elder Scrolls, So maybe, and I understand its a big maybe, Talos chose to reincarnate himself into a mortal in order to fight off the dragons. That could explain why a dovakiin would suddenly apear, with the bloodlines supposadely ended with Martin in Oblivion.

By his honor is sworn to keep evil forever at bay

I would think that means by Talos's honor, the player is sworn to fight agaisnt the dragons and all that is evil. But if Talos was reincarnated, he might...probably wouldnt have all of his past memories. That would leave it up to the player to decide if they should act, and be good or not.

I'm a little scetchy on the lore of TES, but I plan to read further into it. Does that make any sense?

I think the Ancestor Moths have some of the scrolls, and yes a prisoner would not have access, but once they realize he is the last dragonborn he probably will.

WOOT! Now we know for sure Atleast i got something right in my guesses.

I think THAT part of the text is Esbern explaining to the audience that in order to stop the threat, they have to find a Dovahkiin(which is sworn by his own honor), in order to defeat them. So the audience would likely be someone who wasn't aware of this possibility before. So in more casual words, Max/Esbern is saying, "We're in deep [censored] now because you guys didn't do anything even when all the signs indicated we would find ourselves in this situation. Now we only have one chance, to find the guy the dragons fear, so he can defeat them. I can find him and train him if you let me." He is convincing some sort of authority person to allow him to find the player character and prepare him for the fight against the dragons.

Epic win, OP.

Very well summarised, and yes, I would not be surprised if men in white suits *cough* Beth *cough* came knocking soon. Keep that shotgun loaded. Double tap.

"Use the Force, Nerevarine!"

So did I hit the nail on the head about the Dragons? (siggy)

Story what you post is glorious and epic, Incredible work!

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to dethrone the useless threads talking about what might happen / people formulating "theories" when they are merely repeating what Cipher 8 combed out before this yeas beginning....

haha I know. I keep thinking that to myself but I don't mind them posting them. Most of them didn't see this thread back when I had posted it. And lets be honest the average forum goer doesn't check they just post their thread. :shakehead:

The only problem I find is that since Akatosh/Alduin in Oblivion seemed to be the patron of mankind and even protected the world from Daedra and even helped Martin defeat Dagon, how did he go from that to sending dragons and maybe even himself to destroy the world? Is he pissed at the Empire he sanctioned for failing? Or maybe it's something that happened in the 200 years in between ESIV and ESV?