[Claire]

This is the thread to disuss anything and everything about the lore that TESO introduces that does not jive with what we know of the lore.

The most recent, and probably to date the biggest, culprit for questionable lore is the recent twitter confirmation that jungle cyrodiil was merely a transcription error. Despite evidence to the contrary.

If this was true I guess Heimskr read the same stuff we did and got confused about the jungle being there. Kind of a big transcription error. This makes no sense to me from any viewpoint. Calling an entire region a jungle is way to big for a mere transcription error. I call bull[SEHT].

The official TESO site- http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/

Previous Thread- http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1419661-the-teso-lore-questions-and-concerns-thread-1/

[dean Cutler]

The most recent, and probably to date the biggest, culprit for questionable lore is the recent twitter confirmation that jungle cyrodiil was merely a transcription error.

Transcription error... pah. /rant

[Tiff Clark]

Here's the https://twitter.com/TESOnline/status/265849694708719616.

@TESOnline Do you have an explanation as to why Tamriel isn't a jungle, or do you plan to tell us that in game (or not at all)?
@JackBartl3 #ESO's Cyrodiil is based on current Tamriel lore. The original "endless jungle" description is considered a transcription error.

As I said in the Marukhati Collected thread: There are four main "official" sources which deal with jungle Cyrodiil: the Morrowind savants, the Many-Headed Talos (Heimskr's speech), PGE1 and Mythic Dawn Commentaries. Two of these are told by people (one of which is in the 3rd era!) who would have seen jungled Cyrodiil first-hand: it's not a transcription error. The other two explain the interesting reasons for it. TESO invalidates all of them, as far as I can tell, unless you decide that Talos CHIM'd Cyrodiil in the past as well (affecting 2nd era), but did not affect books such as the Pocket Guide, then the forest grew back over the 3rd era, then was almost entirely destroyed between Oblivion and Morrowind...

There are a lot of problems arising from TES IV's cyrodiil. The main culprit is the game itself: it can't explain how savants in Morrowind who have seen it first-hand believe it's jungled. However, that's a subject for six years ago. TESO's issue is the complete unwillingness to try explaining it.

Worse than incorrect lore is an incorrect attitude to lore. This is why I'm looking forward to TESO's Q&A sessions starting soon. Hopefully there will be an opportunity to ask santa http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/news/post/2012/10/18/reading-the-future-of-the-past-in-the-elder-scrolls about the game.

[GPMG]

Some master.

[Alyce Argabright]

Some master.

I'm hoping he had nothing to do with that twitter reply. Of course, I don't actually know who deals with that at all: likely someone rather divorced from the development of the game (lore or otherwise).

[Jodie Bardgett]

Is that guy Elk approved? Or at least Elk proofed.

[Lillian Cawfield]

Is that guy Elk approved? Or at least Elk proofed.

We should have already instituted Elk-ordeals by now.

[Motionsharp]

I'm hoping he had nothing to do with that twitter reply. Of course, I don't actually know who deals with that at all: likely someone rather divorced from the development of the game (lore or otherwise).

Maybe "It was a transcription error" is the standard reply they tell all the PR guys to use whenever someone has a question on lore consistency?

I really hope that was just a poorly worded reply. Maye we should spam messages with the evidence for why they are wrong at them? At least ij the hopes of getting a better response?

[clelia vega]

Maybe "It was a transcription error" is the standard reply they tell all the PR guys to use whenever someone has a question on lore consistency?

I really hope that was just a poorly worded reply. Maye we should spam messages with the evidence for why they are wrong at them? At least ij the hopes of getting a better response?

I don't know why, but I have some hope that they would actually listen to lore buffs. Mainly because I think they have no idea what they are doing.

We should have already instituted Elk-ordeals by now.

Let me throw the first stone.

[koumba]

Maybe "It was a transcription error" is the standard reply they tell all the PR guys to use whenever someone has a question on lore consistency?

I really hope that was just a poorly worded reply. Maye we should spam messages with the evidence for why they are wrong at them? At least ij the hopes of getting a better response?

Yes, let's do that.

[Andrew Perry]

Yes, let's do that.

Please don't hurt anyone... if we come across as trolls, they'll ignore us. It's not a process of proving them wrong, but refining them... through observation of the Truth, they can see the world as we do at our best.

[Mariana]

Well I am not advocating hate spam.
Just sending several messages with evidence against the trancription error BS and ask them 'How do you respond to that given your recent twitter announcement?'

[CArlos BArrera]

Well I am not advocating hate spam.

I do.

But.. I guess you are right, the time has not yet come. Let's give them a chance to do their job and don't try to get us off their backs with hollow phrases.
Transcription error... pah! someone should ask them whether they have an idea what CHIM is. I am not even sure of that. :/

[marie breen]

Someone should ask BGS about the Nordic pantheon and whether or not it is even relevant anymore. Effing Nine Divines everywhere is crap imo. It isn't only TESO but I digress. BGS was never as bad as a simple "Bad wording did it" response were they?

[stevie critchley]

Let me throw the first stone.

Sure.
If they can stop it mid-air (momentum preserved), they qualify.

[Kelsey Hall]

So... The Oblivion & TESO have one lore and Morrowind & Skyrim have the second lore and Arena & Daggerfall have one more lore? What about Redguard and Battlespire?

[Emma Pennington]

So... The Oblivion & TESO have one lore and Morrowind & Skyrim have the second lore and Arena & Daggerfall have one more lore? What about Redguard and Battlespire?

What? Actually the are supposed to share the same lore.