In a hypothetical TES universe where the Thalmor beat the Empire, crush the Redguards, Bretons, Nords and Dunmer Remnants, what happens ? Do they unmake the world ?

I find it short sighted of them to think that all they have to do is remove man. Isn't it plausible that the Sload and/or Akaviri races are worshipping, in sufficient numbers another god/aspect of the same god that does what Talos does to keep that Wheel of the Convention fortified.

I have an image of the last man being executed, the Thalmor trying to put whatever plan they will use to unmake the world into action, it failing, leaving them scratching their heads.

Or them getting the power to unmake the world (Eye of Magnus) after removing the possibility of man, and all they succeed in doing is basically eating this Kalpa themselves because their souls are still bound to that plane.

Probably mild to vast speculation on my part, but thats part of the fun :disguise:

In TES: VI [insert province here] they become the "oblivion crisis" and the player stops them.

It'd be funny if there souls were still bound to teh plane and they were just sitting around:

"[censored], we killed em all, but were stuck here." I think the psycho Thalmor might start killing all their won people.

But everyone would be dead so sadface.

To be honest I don't think the Thalmor would have the manpower, even if they managed to crush the Empire and somehow defeat Black Marsh and keep multiple revolutions from succeding, I don't know if they would be able to kill every manish and beast. It would be possible to complete the process since the Dwemer were bale, but even they failed, for an unknown reason. I just dont see even if the stars align and there is a blue moon it happening.

1st. The Tsaeci are men. They're not called "Immortal-vampire-snake-elves" So the Thalmor plan definitely requires global conquest.
2nd. The plan never says, "kill humanity" it says, "remove them from the pattern of possibility," so there's no reason to assume they're only planning on a simple genocide.
3rd. The "remove humanity" item is only one part of their plan.

Still sounds like they are in way over their head... They would have to eliminate all of man, including any Shor like worship on all other continents... That's as near as impossible as it could come. Kudos for trying though.

Ending a cycle of worlds that has been going on for longer than anyone knows isn't exactly supposed to be easy.

I'm pretty those are the opening words on the design doc, as in (and I'm paraphrasing here)"to kill man is to reach enlightenment/perfection/paradise/retirement".

Sure you say, the man-killing is metaphorical, a natural outcome of loosing the dragon. All they really want to do is return everybody to a perfect spirit state. But I feel the wording of their mission statement is too unambiguous, to exclusive to allow for that.

It's not "kill mortals", "removing mortals from the pattern of possibility". Their enemy is man, and they aren't about to do him any favors (especially post-Septims). Though you're right to say that simple genocide isn't the goal. They want total erasure of mankind. I also doubt that they believe that non-mer even have souls.

Well considering most Altmer are into magic, I'd assume they know that you can soultrap non-mer. The value they put on those souls however might differ from the value they put on Altmer souls...

Let's put it another way, they are trying to control thought and perspective, such that the only elvish perspective is theirs. Witness the dissident purges, the failed attempt to control the Psijic Order (they vanished Artaeum again just so the Thalmor couldn't get to them.

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It's an interesting thought that the Thalmor is the underdog here, and they've struggled through worse conditions to triumph than Mede and his ilk ever had to go through. They've proved to be resourceful and intelligent enough to beat the worst stacked odds, and that's why I think a Thalmor victory would have a lot more meaningful than an Empire victory from a story point of view.

Certainly more shocking. But as it stands, with the black long coats, purity diatribes, unnecessary cruelty, and black-baggings - it looks like the Thalmor are being set up as Nazi-anologs. And those never succeed.

That being said, don't tally a Mannish victory as the mundane, safe option just yet. Imagine: a new alliance between the Dragonrealm of Skyrim and the Cyrodilic Dreammoth-Republic

I would like to sit back and watch the Thalmor try to invade Akavir on their little quest to remove all other races from Nirn.

Aren't the Akaviris supposed to be extremely powerful? They've got people capable of morphing into dragons, and even Nerevarine himself on their side.

The only way they could ever succeed in unmaking the world would be by assaulting the Psijic Order directly? To try and take the Eye of Magnus for themselves.

Wait... huh?

I wouldn't mind seeing an interesting fantasy dystopia, but I don't see it happening, and anyway the nazi anologue would probably not qualify as interesting.

He went there just before the Oblivion Crisis began, and never returned.

Who knows what he's up to there?

I'd prefer the Thalmor to win as it makes for a more interesting outcome. An Imperial victory would just be a simile of Human history; it would be boring and not high fantasy.

If the Thalmor wins, there would be no more TES games, unless they decide to make a game take place earlier.

And if anyone defeats the Thalmor, I'd like it to be the Redguards.

I was under the impression that the Nerevarine had merely gone to Akavir, is there any canon that speaks to what happened once he/she arrived? If he/she even did?

A rumor says the Nerevarine went to Akavir. No one knows if for sure if he/she even went there.

The Thalmor and the Ka'Po'Tun would get along swimmingly.

Nerevarine is the wild card, I think.

The Nerevarine is about as much a wild card as the Eternal Champion (whom we've heard even less about). I hope to never see either of them ever again, except for in the awesome fanfics in my head.

I predicting TES VI will be set in the new Aldmeri Dominion of Summerset Isle & Valenwood.

Look at the events of TES history to date =

The Elven race rule
The early Nords enter and their king takes reign.
The empire evolve and unite all of Tamriel with the bloodline that is from Skyrim (the dragon born).
The Oblivion situation ends the reign of this bloodline.
Skyrim, which was the birthplace of the old bloodline then challenges the ashes of this empire - trying to start an new bloodline (dragons reappear). During which the Elves start to re-unite as there own power as was prior to Skyrim bloodline reign (dragons killed off)...... Thalmor a major feature in TES V but aren't killed off in main quest.

Next will be new Aldmeri Dominion v's the old Imperial / Nordic rule = world war. Obvious choice is TES VI will be set in Aldmeri Dominion

Thats my quess... I hope so anyway as it will be an interesting landscape and completely different to all other TES to date

The Thalmor does win, to a degree. Come ride with me in my time-bending spaceship in TES: VII?