[Kathryn Medows]

The point is is that the Anvil dispute is just a catalyst for various parties acting behind the scenes to make their move for their throne, whether through the flexing of political muscle in the Council, through more underhanded methods or through a good old bloody coup. Setting all that up would be what the build-up days before the Council itself would be for. Officially, there'd be no upcoming vote for emperorhood or whatever.

[Mizz.Jayy]

^Lol.

Once again, I'm with Tidus, and don't appreciate people who lie (like the example) and shift the blame elsewhere.

I didn't lie. When no one wanted to take the KOTN/Confederation I tried to keep the faction alive until others joined.

Well, my idea is out there already. I'd love to address the political situation in Cyrodiil with a mini-RP several days of IC length dealing with a Council session. The subject of talks, the correct course of action in response to Anvil's open claim of Kvatch; unofficial goal that everyone who's anything knows of and hopeful end result, a new emperor and an empire with a direction.

My only worries are not to make "too many factions" where everyone ends up in a separate city. Or that the RP turns into C-Span.

Ah I hate the time difference between Germany and the states. You guys always have these discussions minus Story.

So let me get the few things off my chest to clear some things in the air.

I actually enjoyed and had more fun with Sentinel's scenes in the beginning before war was reached. The Theater scenes with WIlfred and Haroun (Roxanna too may her soul rest in peace) the Palace scenes, even the scenes during the Rihad council were so fun. The Court of Sentinel being the way it was, diplomats arriving with their own agendas. It was great and I had a blast. I don't think that is what allowed the roleplay today although I do admit the Knights did not seem as fun as the Yokudan Empire and for that I apologize. Everyone should join the Ra'Gada sometime. So I don't think battles would have made it all better, and I know thats your motivation to roleplay IB, its your favorite aspect. I say that as a friend who has known you for many years.

I also never minded Immortal leaving the roleplay or staying, to me it has always been a non-issue. Kind of like when Duval left, its always fun when their around, but has never bothered me or hampered the continuity of the series.

Do want to add that I was offended with your comments on the imaginary fantasy universe stuff, and feel just the same way my little man PFA does.

Oh and to everyone I did gripe often, and IB and I butted heads many times on the state of Hammerfell after SoS, he wanted a small group of nearby cities to join Sentinel and nothing more while I wanted the entire of Hammerfell. Our reasoning differed but we are at where we are at and I rather enjoy the state Hammerell finds itself in.

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I believe the mini-cyrodiil RP will be amazingly fun and put the Story stamp of approval on it.

To Crimson- There is much more cyrodiil to come along, although this one will primarily be focused on a specific subject. Great way to bounce around and handle all the important turning points within the timeline universe to get us where we want to be for any extended roleplay. For now lets flirt with the short, focused narratives.

BTW, I have your pm, will reply to it when I get some free time tomorrow evening.

Our disagreements worked because we would talk up front and come to a middle ground that we could both respect. Somewhere between just Sentinel and a handful of cities and the entire Hammerfell. As for being offended, don't take it in such a way. While i like the fantasy settings and all that it's not good to become so attached to something that it hampers. I personally see some inconsistencies with our timeline that Skyrim would allow to address. That's just me. For me it's difficult to really get motivated about anything in the IBT other than Hammerfell, everything else seems so dry. Doesn't seem a lot of people will even consider. Really I wouldn't have time to host right now even if the case was other wise.

[Ysabelle]

So Immortal, you staying or leaving?

[Tai Scott]

If I might suggest something. If you guys really wanna do something in the Imperial City, why not do that mini-RP where an "Emperor"/leader is chosen at a Council. Then move into an actual full-scale RP set in the Imperial City with a leader already chosen and already a good groundworks set out for factions and what not.

[Timara White]

If I might suggest something. If you guys really wanna do something in the Imperial City, why not do that mini-RP where an "Emperor"/leader is chosen at a Council. Then move into an actual full-scale RP set in the Imperial City with a leader already chosen and already a good groundworks set out for factions and what not.

I like this idea.

And sorry for my absence guys. School really picked up as far as work goes and I had to do some hardcoe training to get where I needed to be for our first track meet. Not to mention trying to manage my own RP, which has turned out to be harder than I had imagined. I'll try to poke my head in every now and then and see what's up, and I will participate in the next RP.

Speaking of that I would like to propose an RP idea. Maybe not for the next one, but maybe a later one. I have some really good ideas on Morrowind that incorporate some of the Bethesda canon without making the province a smoldering [censored] hole. I think that it would be cool to have a political RP there staged right after the OB crisis as the houses try to rebuild.

[Jessica Lloyd]

What exactly would be done though? When setting up an RP I like to imagine beforehand what exactly people will be doing. How would the "leader" be chosen exactly? Think of it as if writing a script for actors.

[Claire Jackson]

What exactly would be done though? When setting up an RP I like to imagine beforehand what exactly people will be doing. How would the "leader" be chosen exactly? Think of it as if writing a script for actors.

I was simply offering an alternative since people wanted to do the political meeting of the Council as well as doing a full-scale RP in the IC. However, I think that if you guys combine the meeting with the full-scale RP it will get dull because only a few people will effectively be able to do this meeting thing without it turning into an unnecessary fuster-cluck of characters IMO.

This way, the people who have the most interest/knowledge of the situation can get this head of state chosen for the Empire, then we can step back for a few weeks of planning the actual RP around what happened in the meeting which IMO should last no more then 2 or 3 weeks IRL.

[Kayleigh Williams]

Couple things. I know not long ago we talked about instituing some rules and what not, would anyone still be interested in a bit of structure in the Timeline? I only ask because I wrote up a rather extensive document during before my mother got sick and I've had no real time to post it, but if you guys don't give a rats patooty I won't waste the time in typing it up. Personally I think as the timelines grown and we've seen our fair share of bumps and hickups we could use a bit of reorganization. The previous displays and subquential intervention of the mods that resulted in several closed threads led be to construct a Timeline Constitution of sorts that would hopefuly put an end to that kind of disturbance and involve everyone in the guiding and shaping internal timeline affairs. Just let me know if its worth my time to put it up! I certainly want to know how you guys feel.

Second thing. I think the Imperial City has alot of good opertunities to make a great, episode of sorts because its such a huge place it give us plenty to do but small enough that we can keep our efforts concentrated, much like in SoS. The Imperial City, despite the Empires decline, would still be the center of politics and culture for Tamriel, and it would be interseting to see how the events of past RP's (QW, SoS and KSS) have shaped politics in Cyrodiil.

[Rudi Carter]

Was also considering a sort of "Lost ninth legion" sort of plot where a legion gets ambushed by stormcloak rebels and we could RP smaller scale skirmishes and survival/hunter scenarios.

That sounds similar to an Idea I had, but mine was more of a behind enemy lines kind of deal. We'd be RPing an intelligence corps in the legion, perhaps the P.O, one or two characters each so we're not bogged down with controlling units and delegating etc. Just keep it light, have a constant enemy (Thalmor/Stormcloak etc). I was even considering RPing the final days of the blades. Delphine mentions that the Blades where discovered in the Aldemiri dominion before the great war, is it just me or does that sound like RP gold?

Last time I checked, Tidus called you out in this thread. Get out of the timeline. Go make another one.

At least I read the damn thing and kept up with you guys, rather than making 7 or 8 posts for the entire RP.

Did I say I wasn't guilty? I also said I was guilty. But at least I cared about it.

Immortal, don't ever [censored] speak to me again.

Wooly, there's a certain wisdom in knowing when to drop something. IB has mentioned more than once that he'd like to drop it and move on, you should too.


This is the exact reason why it took me so long to join the Timeline this time around. Because ever since SoS and Circlet Ignited, this has been the timeline. Gloriously written RP threads; excellent ideas and fantastic characters in the RP thread, but nothing but bickering childish rivalry and finger pointing throughout almost every Discussion thread, it get's so bad that I only read the IC thread most of the time and ignore the discussion thread, to the end that I don't even know what planned or going on. Every time. I tried with Queens Waltz, the same thing there, so I left. Same thing on other Timeline RP's, I left. And to be frank Wooly, you have instigated a lot of the bull [censored] since you've been here, your not innocent either you know.


Personally, I'm not sure if I'll be continuing with the Timeline any more, I've made several attempts and to be honest, aside from SoS and C.I, I don't think I've enjoyed it that much. I just want something simple, easy to follow, easy to reply to and easy to motivate. If the next Timeline RP is like that I'd happily sign up. But big overly complicated war RP's tend to dissolve into arguments and bickering.

Honestly one of the best things about the timeline was the Banter between us, friendly and harmless (I.e Camel jibes and Physics proof horses) but even that causes arguments lately.

If any ones offended by this post, don't reply to it, I'm not interested in arguing either. It's just my two c/pence, put it in the piggy bank for what it's worth.

[Jessica Thomson]

I understand what you mean Solidor, I can't say I blame you either. Alot has gone on, sadly alot spilled into discussion thread but you have to keep in mind alot has gone on behind the scene that most here havn't seen. Its all very demotivating, hopefully we can move past it and continue on, though that becomes hard when members have prejudice and hard feelings between each other. Some of it is deserved while some of its not. I figured the arguments would be akin to PR disaster for the timeline, and it's something we're gonna have to recover and earn back peoples respect.

[Jason Wolf]

I never said I was innocent but it is not all my fault. Enough said. It is dropped and it will stay that way. Leave me be.

[Jason King]

Moving on, does anyone have any other ideas about a possible Imperial City/Cyrodiil RP? or any other propositions?

[Hayley Bristow]

I have an idea: the prospect of the Empire expanding its territories. The Aldmeri Dominion is still bogged down in Elsweyr, and the Yokudan Empire, between its hard-fought war and its brutal after-treatment of the Confederation, has been left weakened militarily and destabilized politically. Anvil is now known to have cooperated with the Yokudans and helped them perpetuate their atrocities, and now seek to annex Kvatch. The Cyrodiilic Empire would stand to gain from reannexing a major coastal city or simply expanding its borders and pushing its enemies away from Cyrodiil. Provided someone competent were to get into power.


I like Blademaster's idea of a mini-RP in the Imperial City setting the stage for the Cyrodiil RP. It'd help establish what the situation is: who's vying for power, who's making claims to the throne, and how everyone is planning on getting what they want.

[Ebony Lawson]

I have an idea: the prospect of the Empire expanding its territories.

Somehow I feel this will be argued down, though I don't know why yet.

I figured someone (you Crimson, seeing as how you wrote some stuff for it) would continue the Battelspire thing, and that there would be a Mages faction of some sort. I assume someone will be the suave Criminal Lord as well, plus there will likely be a few Generals of the Badass-type or the reserved philosophical type. Then of course the masses of super-slick politicians.

[Leticia Hernandez]

I absoloutly agree with blades idea. I've been developing a character for a loooong time now and will hopefully release a bit of prelude lore relating to her and her/family influence/role within Imperial politics. I imagined it a whirlwind of everything thats going on. The Dominon to the south, the Yokudans to the west and an increasingly fractured Skyrim to the north coupled with the Empire recession of territory and influence would make the Impeiral city an extremely interesting place to place a story.

edit: I wouldn't really argue it down, as much as we need to figure out how they would finance said campaign. Its an age old tactic to use war to distract the massess, and a campaign could be all thats really holding the Empire together.

[Kerri Lee]

I figured someone (you Crimson, seeing as how you wrote some stuff for it) would continue the Battelspire thing, and that there would be a Mages faction of some sort. I assume someone will be the suave Criminal Lord as well, plus there will likely be a few Generals of the Badass-type or the reserved philosophical type. Then of course the masses of super-slick politicians.

Yes, I'll be taking my Battlespire Faction. They'll be seeking to bring about some less-than-conventional solutions for Cyrodiil's problems. Solutions that unfortunately are too far-fetched to non-mages to be brought about unless someone more appreciative of magical innovations gets into power.

[Kelly Osbourne Kelly]

It would definately be an interesting RP. I'm up for it: still going to go with my Altmeri agent I had planned and a legion officer.

Does anyone want to do some gang violence in the waterfront between the crime lords of the Imperial City?

[le GraiN]

The ideas so far are too far encompassing. I could use just about any other current RP in play right now as an example if you are curious but as not to ruffle feathers i'll use one of my own.

CI was probably my favorite RP. It was great, even the opening thread in my not so humble opinion was one of the best. I had even placed soundtracks of music for you to listen as you read the paragraphs and I made sure to time it so that the song would last just slightly longer than the person would take to read said paragraph. But it all went to [censored]. Why? Because of too many factions, too many sides and everything was too spread out. You had characters that would never interact simply because they had nothing to do with one another and hardly affected one another even by proxy. On top of that people were derping and opening up Oblivion gates to do the "find the sigil stone" mini game we all [censored] hated in OB which made me wonder why people would now RP something they hated in the game...but anyway...I have a plot. It has little to nothing to do with Cyrodiil because that province suffers from the very aforementioned issues. TOO many factions and powers so we'll end up having 20 factions for 12 people to RP. Not fun. But here is my plot:

Taneth and the Confederation surrender peacefully on the condition of wider autonomy yada yada. Local elections for governors are in place, a few of the Knights can stay over as protectors and over seers to ensure Imperial mercantile interests are maintained and a sort of peace/truce is held between Sentinel and the Empire. Now the Dominion who more or less rules by proxy western High Rock does X to piss off Sentinel. Elysana comes to an understanding with the Nords, they get all nice with one another. Sentinel invades High Rock (Think Moorish invasion of Spain if that helps) does the whole Normandy thing and in High Rock we have a nice 3 way. In case anyone is worried about RPing the Dominion I could probably do it if someone helped. Crudely presented, take it or leave it. But it has some very key things.

1. Only 3 factions. We could in theory just do 2 (something happens to High Rock and its all unified) but 3 wouldn't be bad either.
2. Simple goals, for Sentinel to establish a level of influence/control along the southern coast of High Rock in order to protect its northern border. For Daggerfall (The Dominion) to keep Sentinel out and destroy any Nordic influence/Elysana's power base and for Wayrest/Elysana to unify High Rock and keep the Redguards out.
3. Opportunity for diversity. Anyone can be here for just about any reason allowing you to play just about any character.

So there you have it, only a few factions, plenty of character development, very basic but diverse goals that INTERSECT. keep it simple stupid

[Nikki Lawrence]

Man, Sentinel wants nothing to do with High Rock, and Haroun wants blood for the knights. Roxanna is dead. There is going to be no "peaceful" surrender and they don't want to invade High Rock. Hell no. Did you pay attention to KSS? That's a complete opposite direction.

[Juan Cerda]

Wooly, why do you speak for other people? And what does any of that have to do with the progress of an RP?

[Matthew Warren]

Here we go again...

Although to answer your question, IB, Storyteller is the one who envisioned the current ending.

[Trevor Bostwick]

Here we go again...

Although to answer your question, IB, Storyteller is the one who envisioned the current ending.

He should have a better tone when talking with others. That's all i'm saying.

Yeah and Story and I can talk about things concerning the ending. Most sieges don't end in a big gory bloody battle of murder and mayhem.

[Jordan Fletcher]

"The biggest issue I see with that is it completely forgoes everything we've established about the Yokudan Empire. After Roxanna's death there could be no peace between the two, not without Bomilkar turning on Haroun at least. Aside that, the Yokudan Empire's approach to forign affairs is isolationism for the most part. Haroun isn't a power hungry land grabber who eyes others lands like a hungry wolf at a sheep. Well, at least not now. The situation is High Rock is mostly dealt through his alliance with Anticlere and assuming that the marriage between Andromeda and Auborn Flyte goes through it wouldn't make much sense. "

Tidus asked for me to post for him on this one (his phone won't let him post - he's at work).

I have every right to speak for the sake of the Yokudans, since I'm part of them. I know, 100 percent that Story would not support this. I am not God, but I talk to him enough to that, and Tidus also agrees with me. "Yeah don't speak for other people", I talk to them enough to know, that in something this big, they wouldn't support it. Damn political references, but that's like saying Ron Paul supports Barack Obama. Doesn't fit at all.

It makes me think you didn't read any of the RP. I don't understand why someone who didn't show up for a RP should get to decide its ending. It has to do with the timeline that we've created.

[Franko AlVarado]

Wooly I really think you need to move on with whatever personal issues you have with me as it colors the tone of everything you say. As for hauron invading into high rock...what if the Dominion wanted to take over Anticlere? Would they sit idle? In any case we were discussing possibilities. That's easier to do when we all have an open mind and no chips on our shoulders you know? And no one is "deciding" it was a suggestion. And i'll say it again, don't talk for other people. Don't even tell other people what I am saying. Let them come here and make up their own mind. We don't need you being lobbyist (huzzah i can do political references too) for this and that matter being a busy little bee.

As for not reading the RP, I told you before the only things I didn't follow was the Serosi hunt plot and some of the pirate plot I am not 100 percent on. Don't see a point in repeating a misconception. One more thing to make a point of, check your tone with people because you tend to come off very rudely. Most people won't give you a reaction for it. I most likely will.

[lauraa]

Personal stuff is gone man. Quit bringing it up.

I didn't tell Tidus. He told me to go look at your post and I did. Don't make assumptions.