I noticed something between now and the first game Arena.The empire was always there kinda and it was always ruled by a semptim or closely related blood line.
Now the empire has shattered with the Semptim Blood-line.The Empire's strength is weak and is now ruled by a high elf.
Argonia and The Aldmeri dominion becoming political empires to rival that of the empire itself. Have we seen the empire at the hight of its power in oblivion
I think we did.
The empire has lost provinces such as morrowind, argonia,elsweyr,Valenwood,summerset isle, and soon Skyrim to seperation.
The rebels will win in Skyrim obviously for the fact that it is a strategic and a timely mess for the empire who has hardly and soldiers that could match the nord's
knowledge of the terrain and it has a broken military that must be stretched to the rest of the remnants of the empire.After this game when Skyrim has seperated
I think the Empire will be in its last throws much like the roman empire. It will be doomed to be a city state with its former provinces becoming powerful empires and kingdoms.
We are seeing a dramatic change in the elder scrolls series. The times are indeed changing.
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My Imperials have never been very politically inclined.

The Empire was at their Height when their legions rofl stomped all the other provinces and over came the Aldmeri dominion, they got even stronger when they scared the hell out of vivec to the point that he gave them numidium, the empire was strong then but now? in Oblivions timeline? they are a joke or atleast thats what I gather gamewise.

Nuh uh!

Your government tried to make me talk before, but I didn't.

NANANANANNANANAN.

I SHALL FEAR NO EVIL.

But in all seriousness, your right.

I see your point
now they are the roman empire who controls just 4 1/2 provinces.

*Harmonica solo*

Men were slaves once, then Alessia.

An Empire has always been seated at the Heart of Tamriel, power has always been drawn to White-Gold Tower.

The Empire shall rise again, as it always does.

And the Men of Cyrodiil will always persevere. Never content with there station, always Imperial.

Chancellor Ocato is not the ruler. its the Mede family. By now its probably something different.

I truly believe that Skyrim shall rule the next empire
ALL HAIL SKYRIM
RU FA DOL

Your old road is rapidly agin'?

I think for a good reason. It allows BGS to refresh/ inject new and more potentially interesting lore into TES, in the future. Final Fantasy has reached a 13th & 14th iteration partly because they have a new, different story to tell each time. Or at least characters & environment.

WIth no high and mighty reason to keep an emperor seated (keeping barriers up) Im pretty sure the provinces have no reason to listen to the empire, what we need is another Numidium.

My dream Elder Scrolls game would have all the provinces explore-able, with a massive war going on with some of them. Side with a faction, and you can be an assassin, a thief, and a raider all for your faction: moral ambiguity!

Of course, you could also tick off some powerful people and have a bounty on your head: all-round awesomeness!

I would like to see the New argonian empire. just think about it to see morowind and possibly southern cyrodil again if they conquered it. it would be around 300 years later assuming the next game jumps 100 years
and vardenfell has been distroyed just add to it mournhold was raised and rebuilt and we could revisit morrowind with argonia.
On secound thought i think the three main powers would be skyrim once they seperate and invade daggerfall,Argonia,and the aldmeri dominion. I think either three will be the next empire.

Ah, I love Bob Dylan.

If I am ever involved in a Daggerfall mod, or they give us a Daggerfall expansion, I am totally going to make a quest called "Visions of Jehanna". :biggrin:

I seriously questioned the Empire's strength in Oblivion where every single fort in Cyrodil was pretty much a ruin, completely devoid of any garrison (with the exception of Fort Sutch, if you can even call that a proper fort). They can maintain well over 7 forts in Morrowind, with a proper garrison to boot, yet they let the fortresses in their home territory fall into disuse.

Mabye they always felt devine intervention would save them , and always the devines would be there gaurdians...they were wrong.
They were so concentrated on holding foreign land they let there forts at home along with ther roads.......fall into disrepair.

That's because they're not an occupying force in Cyrodiil, they're on their home turf. The forts fell into disuse because they were no longer needed. The garrisons are in the cities.

Although a few outposts would have been a good thing to put in Oblivion. Just like an Imperial Legion Reserve faction or something.

Foreigners ca't invade the heartland without getting through the provinces first

Horrible excuse for letting your main territory's line of defense fall into disrepair.

I agree horrible excuse

OR, lousy game design.

Cyrodiil was suppose to have vast jungle-forests, developers said "nope."
Manimarco was suppose to be a several hundred year old Lich, developers said "nope."
Imperial City was suppose to be the heart of the empire and have thousands of citizens, "nope."
Imperial nobility, varying culture base on region, "nope."

We can't base our opinion of The Empire on what we saw in Oblivion.

I agree i am very angry right now
IF BETHESDA WAS GOING TO MAKE CYRODIL THEY SHOULD HAVE WAITED. THEY SHOULD HAVE WENT WITH SKYRIM,ARGONIA, OR EVEN ELSWEYR .
THEY DENIED US THE VERY HEART OF THE EMPIRE
DAMN THEM
DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL
YOU BLEW IT
YOU REALY REALY BLEW IT
WHY
WHY
DAMN YOU BETHESDA DAMN YOU DAMN YOU DAMN YOU DAMN YOU DAMN YOU DAMN YOU
THEY DONT DISERVE THE ELDER SCROLLS