Ambassador Crocker- NCR

*looks across the table at Ambassador Lobotomite
No Lobotomite you won't be taking any of those things. The Quarry, Safe House and all rail lines are property of the New California Republic, any unlawful loitering or use by your group is an outright declaration of war. Now you asked about my terms? My terms are simple, the NCR nor it's citizens will not go to Black Mountain and in exchange the meta humans of Black Mountain will be allowed to live in peace, and any meta humans travelling the I-15, as long as they are peaceful and nonviolent, won't be disturbed.

*turns back to Ambassador Mieux
Ambassador I've already told you, the NCR does not consider that treaty legally binding, further for a treaty to be ratified it must pass the NCR Senate with a 2/3rd majority and that will be almost impossible to acheive. The only area within the Mojave we consider sovereign to Mr. House is the Strip and Hoover Dam, BUT we will continue to abide by most of the terms in the treaty, including free travel for NCR citizens because the NCR recogonizes the realities on the ground. As far as the rail line goes the NCR will continue to use prison labor at our own expense BUT we do have another use for Mr. House's securtions. To limit the size and scope of the NCR military within the region we would like to use the securtions as the wardens of NCRCF and as guards to keep the chain gangs under control. Given your robots auto repair function and ability to suppress crowds the only cost would be that of opportunity cost. Thus I'm willing to pay 10 percent of the total capital investment cost for the use of House's securtions.

As far as a rail line extention into Freeside is concerned I'm sure Mr. House realizes that is a very expense endeavor. The NCR is willing to embark on it, but only if Freeside is safe and NCR citizens within Freeside have the refugee camp set up for their protection. Otherwise the rail line would have to be extended to other areas, maybe Westside, maybe directly south of the Strip, or maybe just to Camp McCarran to bypass the security problems to begin with.


*Looks back at Ambassador Elvis
Under no circumstances would the NCR be willing to give up it's citizens to a non democratic faction. Further I'm not sure how the NCR has started these problems for you? The Kings are the one that killed the NCR's aid convoy, the Kings attacked the NCR despite us not attacking you, the Kings haven't stopped Freeside residents from attacking NCR citizens. To be honest the NCR has been nothing but good actors to the people of Freeside and you've continued to spit in our face regardless.

*Turns back to Ambassador Gruff
If you can't handle such a shipment for such a cost then that is fine. Tell me how have your siblings been in New Reno?

*Greets the new ambassadors
Welcome Ambassador Johnson and you as well you two as well Ambassador Matthew, and Ambassador Draco. O and Ambassador Johnson I accpet your deal. If the Boomers wish to trade more, make your way to the Crimson Caravan on the east side of New Vegas.

*Looks at the General Group assembled

There is also one more matter I need to discuss with all persons gathered here today.

The NCR is offering full aid, protection, and general welfare services for all communities willing to be annexed by my nation. For the first 10 years your towns would face no taxes, you could keep all laws and regulations you've set for yourself as long as they don't violate the NCR's constituion, you would be guaranteed full constituional rights AND the full force of the NCR government would be dedicated to your safety. But more than that IF a threat such as raiders OR wild animals threathen your town you can call on the Mojave Outpost which will send a detachment of Rangers will assit you. Now that the Legion is largely gone the NCR can focus like a laser on any security problems. Not only that but any delevopmental aid you need would be gifted, any schools or medicial services you need would be provided. You would keep your own sheriffs and way of life, only with much more economic aid and delevopment coming your way. The only thing the NCR ask in exchange is that you pledge your allegiance and all of your foreign dipolmacy goes through the NCR first. If your interested or are thinking about joining but on slightly altered terms then let me know. If you aren't and want to remain indepedent or receive help from Mr. House instead that's also fine. The NCR isn't going to force you into our union, but the union would be better with you in it.

Johnson, Boomer rep.

"Although reasonable, ambassador, as I said the Boomers wish to maintain their independence. However, as our borders are secure and we are peaceful to the NCR I do not feel you have much to fear from our end.

Ambassador Mieux- New Vegas

*Folds his fingers together*

Mr. Crocker, I don't like resorting to....harsh words. But simply put, NCR WILL recognize those terms, any failure to do so deemed 'hostile' will result in nothing entering Shady Sands aside from an air assault and virtually unbeatable Securitrons rolling through it's streets, not as an expansion, but as a warning.

That said, the offer of protectrons was not to make you pay, it's just we here at New Vegas, well, some of us, do have NCR's interests at heart, just not their interest in New Vegas. That said, the protectrons were to help because they will not potentially use dynamite to cause a coup against your men again. Plus, prisoners need armed guards, NCR is not permitted a military presence here. You see, despite your sore attitude about our victory, we don't hate NCR, we just want our indepence here. And no, NCR citizens cannot be given a refugee camp. HOWEVER, there is a route that could be opened up right next to the old Cerulean Robotics plant, runs through a gated part of Freeside, if the Kings are willing to provide FREE protection to NCR citizens on their way to The Strip, then we'd be happy to work out a deal, as for the Monorail, McCarran is a special....top secret project of ours. *Smirks coyley*

As for the Quarry, no Mr. Crocker, that is OUR property, your lands are back at the Mojave Outpost.

OOC: If you havent read my fan fic, the top secret is McCarran is being restored as an Airport, slowly, in hopes of making a destination in NCR territory to cut land costs and dangers.

Marcus Draco, Novac Represenative

That is a very tempting offer but Novac has to kindly decline.

We are however open to trade, if you represent both the NCR and its caravan companies then I would like to offer you the chance to set up shop in the soon to be rebuilt Nipton.

We will only put a 4% income tax and allow you to keep all laws and regulations of your caravans.

We hope you will accept this generous offer.

Ambassador Crocker -NCR
Wonderful! Our caravans will make those monthly trips as you stated. Once again if you ever need weapons or any sort then your welcome at anytime to come and trade at the NCR caravan offices on the outskirts of Vegas.

*Crocker turns to Ambassador Draco
And that's the other thing I wanted to talk about. Sense Nipton is in California, and a NCR rail line runs through the town the NCR doesn't see how Novac has any rightful claim over the ruins or right to tax them. Also considering many of the persons who died in the NIpton attack were NCR citizens we can't regonize any claim to the area by any other group here. If any NCR citizens, caravans or associations move to the ruins of Nipton the NCR must stress they aren't under the law of any group or association gathered here today. If anything given the geography of the area and likeiness that most of the travellers through Nipton would be NCR citizens I can't in good faith abide by any claim of political authority in NIpton.

Robin Van Graff, Van Graff family

Yes, we would definitely consider that. Ideally, a more central location, closer to the Strip, with more discerning clients, would be preferable. But claiming any extra Mojave real estate is to our benefit. Our only condition would be some leniency on the punitive NCR taxes that restrict us expanding in the Mojave region.



I would have thought that the Boomers more than anyone else were well stocked with heavy artillery. But in the interests of diplomacy I will not decline in principle, although I suspect we have little to offer one another.

We are both in powerful positions, our support to any faction will make or break them. Therefore any conjoining of assets would nullify our unique advantages. I would only accept such a proposition if the Van Graffs took control of the majority of Boomer assets.

Ambassador Lobotomite - The State of Utobitha

*Looks at Ambassador Crocker with thinly veiled contempt
The Two-Headed Bear has no say of what happens in the Mojave ambassador, as I've said we will be taking the Safehouse. With an outpost of the Two-Headed Bear so close to our territory you are lucky that we didn't take it when it was occupied. We have no need of any supplies within so those will be dropped off at the edge of Sloan. We have no interest or need for your rail lines and as for the Quarry, I am discussing it with Ambassador Mieux. We wouldn't need the Quarry for very long and I'm sure that if either the NCR, the House or any other faction here gave additional, and temporary, support to us, then our building efforts could be considerably shortened.

OOC: I don't know, California doesnt exist, NCR isnt the state of california, it's an expanding new form of government, you can't just CLAIM it because it was a part of Pre-War california. The way I see it, if it's in the base game, it's New Vegas region's if it's not the Mojave Outpost.

Ambassador Mieux- New Vegas

Mr. Lobotomite, as I understand it, Jacobstown, courtesy of Dr. Henry, is VERY close to a cure for stealthboy brain damage. If you are willing to wait until said cure is found, we will send every last stealthboy in our posession and any we find later on.

*Turns to Crocker*

Ambassador, the caravans still have branches here, the only forces who were booted from OUR lands were NCR military personnel, including all rangers.

Marcus Draco, Novac Represenative

Not meaning to offend in any way but Nipton was in California two centuries ago, never New California.

Those ruins are beyond your jurisdiction and a part of New Vegas.

We only hold claims to those ruins because House and Ambassador Mieux allows us to.



NCR laws will not apply to the caravans in Nipton, they are just allowed to keep their own laws.

The only laws we hold is those that prevent violence against other caravans.

"Ah well in that case never mind. We have no need to have some outsider control any part of us, and as you may well know, we're plenty supplied and are prepared to use our firepower.


*to Crocker* "Certainly, though, the way things look, if You ever need weapons let us know.

Marcus Draco, Novac Represenative

Does the State of Urobitha have anything they can give in exchange for Novac giving them aid?

We like to be charitable, makes it easier to get allies, but we do need something in return.

Unless House forbid it, then we must decline any help.

No you won't be using that safe house. Maybe you didn't get the memo Ambassador but the NCR barely loss any forces during the Second Battle of the Hoover Dam and we DO continue to reserve the right to use force within the region to protect our stragetic interest, investments and citizens. But there is no need for such force used on our part because of Ambassador Mieux. He's already denied your plans and I can guarantee your nightkin won't last a moment against Mk2 Securtions. If any assets owned by the New California Republic are taken or destroyed by your people that will result in an appropriate amount of force in retaliation.

OOC: I pointed out NCR is more or less renting the right to mine the Quarry, it does not officially OWN it anymore. But it does reserve the right to hire employees. Also, you can't 'use force' when the only real value is the mine, all else would be protected by House courtesy of non-hostile diplomatic relations.

ooc- Under this situation the NCR doesn't consider the House's Free Economic Zone to be a legally binding document and considers all assets in which the NCR has upgraded with capital improvements it's proptery. Also yes I know Nipton was never part of the NCR I was saying that it was a part of historic California. And yes the NCR military is gone from the Mojave but I continue to stress it has the right to reenter the Mojvae to protect it's assets, citizens or interest.

Ambassador Crocker- NCR
*Still talking to Ambassador Draco
The NCR will not stop anyone from delevoping any part of the Mojave and you will often times find NCR citizens helping with process of economic delevopment but when it comes to a situation like Nipton the NCR sees no right by Mr. House or any other group to claim rule or taxation of said area. The fate of Nipton is up to the new citizens of Nipton where every they come from.

Joshua: Representative of Jacobstown

*The mutant turns to Andronicus, face set with a cold, steely expression*

The good doctor doesn't share your anti-mutant sentiment, I assure you. Unlike your murderous self, Henry looks past physical appearance and sees human beings, why do you think he left the Enclave? Good thing he did, or he would have been consumed in nuclear fire like the rest of your genocidal comrades, just like your "President", your home. Once the nostalgia wears off, Henry will come back to Jacobstown. I think you'll find that the large majority of your sad little posse have no disdain for mutants, which is why our cure is almost complete. svck it up, live the rest of your sad little existence in peace, we'll keep on living, so much for inferiority.

*Pulls away from the table with a satisfied smirk *

To those of Black Mountain, you'll find no peace there! You're surrounded by humans on every side. Please, do yourselves a favour and come to Jacobstown. We already have a cure for the Nightkin illness in development.

* Devours two desert salads, an Atomic Cocktail and three bottles of purified water*

Ambassador Lobotomite - The State of Utobitha

*Stares at Ambassador Crocker
I said we are taking your Safe House Ambassador, as in, we are already in the process of doing do. I simply thought it polite to tell you of this fact, it's not like you have any need of it now.

*Turns to Ambassador Mieux
As for the Quarry, I see of no reason why we can't come to an arrangement. Even after we are finished our construction we could continue to help with mining, we are incredibly strong and working with machines would not unduly upset a Nightkin.

*Turns to Marcus Draco
If the citizens of Novac provide aid in the construction of the State of Utobitha then we would be willing to provide any support you require, within reason. We could, for example, permanently chase off any bandits that choose to camp near your town.
I would also like to give a formal apology to the owners of the ranch on the western edge of your town for their deceased brahmin. The Nightkin who attacked them was...unstable and chose to isolate himself from us. He also gravely misunderstood the meaning of Battle Cattle.

*Slams his fist into the table, denting it, and turns to stare at Joshua
We will not leave the State of Utobitha, it is the new home for all Nightkin!

*Lowers his voice to a menacing level
We do not have an illness, we are the superior mutant.

Marcus Draco, Novac Represenative

The difference between the NCR's position and House's position is House can place military units there without declaring war.

House will be exterminating the Jackals that currently live in Nitpon, who attack NCR citizens as they pass, and a combined effort by Primm and Novac will rebuild and resettle the town.

NCR has no power there and since House has power over those rebuilding and resettling the town he is then in control of it.

All we offer the NCR is the chance to set up caravans there.



With all due respect I believe you are being a little harsh.

He was rose with those beliefs and its simply an achievement that he will willingly sit in a room with those he considers inferior.

We should be working more towards peace between meta-humans, as you prefer to be called, and humans.



Well before we send our men there we must know what you want us to do.

We can offer a very good amount of trade to the State of Utobitha thanks to the many caravans that pass through on their way to the Strip, in return for whatever resource you can offer.

The matter with the raiders near Novac will be handled soon by House's Securitrons, if however a conflict ever breaks out I am sure we can rely on the State of Utobitha for help.

And we except the apology for the unstable Nightkin, he went mad and was not being ordered by your people or anything. The matter is done.

Ambassador Thomas Matthew- Primm

Clean and renovate the casinos and the eyebot is yours. As soon as I return to Primm I will notify Nash and the sheriff.

To the representative of Mr. House, it would greatly help our settlement if you could send a securitron or two over to Primm to ensure it stays safe.

ooc- Just read your post Colonel
Ambassador Crocker- NCR

If you wish to cross the Divide and go to war with the NCR because we won't give up claim to it's rightful assets then I'm not sure your a rational business partner in all of this. Your not going to move me or my nation otherwise through threats of war and I would hope we could keep the discussions to a more sane level of conversation. Here's the bottom line the NCR senate is already full of people just waiting for an excuse to lift an embrago on Mr. House. It's already full of people wanting to cut off all relations. Now I know Mr. House is a rational man, and I know he wants the NCR's citizens to bank roll your nations economic delevopment. I know as well as everyone here today he wants my nation to continue to fund his enterprises by buying power from the Hoover Dam and we are willing to do so, BUT we won't allow NCR citizens and assets to be stolen, destroyed or otherwise harmed in the Mojave. Nor will be continue to bank roll Mr. House if war is all he unlimitely seeks.

*Turns back to Ambassador Draco
The NCR nor it's citizens will not recognize the authority of Mr. House or your people to tax or control Nipton.

Marcus Draco, Novac Represenative

You do not seem to understand, us taking Nipton from the Jackals is securing the safety of NCR citizens on their road to Novac.

As you said those who control Nipton must be those who populate it, Novac and Primm will be populating it, not the NCR.

Novac is simply trying to make useless ruins a caravan hub between the NCR and New Vegas, if the NCR does not want that then they do not have to be involved in it. It'll be successful enough without them.

Ambassador Crocker- NCR
I see the benefits of your people populating Nipton, but you act as if NCR settlers won't also want to move to Nipton. Remember the former mayor of Nipton was himself a citizen of the NCR. The NCR has no problems with your people colonizing Nipton as well. The only problem I have is this, that NCR settlers in Nipton will be subject to laws and taxes of the people of Novac and Primm. If I could be given a guarantee that all NCR settlers in Nipton won't be subject to any laws, regulations, or taxes formed concerning said place, then this issue will be settled.

*Turns back to Ambassador Elvis
If an NCR refugee can't be set up in Freeside then that is the Kings choice, but if said refugee camp is denied then all offers of aid, economic delevopment or a railroad line to Freeside would also have to be put on hold.

*Looks back at the general group assembled
Also all former NCR military installations within the Mojave are still the sole property of the New California Republic, including Camp McCarran, although the republic is willing to sell said properties to potential buyers. In the advent that a refugee camp can't be set up in Freeside, said Camp will be placed in the former Camp McCarran.

Marcus Draco, Novac Represenative

I see.
Well I can promise they will not be taxed unless they wish to become citizens of Primm or Novac but any laws broken will be punished, they are just basic laws like killing and stealing.

But we will be imposing a tax on any and all caravans, whether from New Vegas, the NCR, or beyond, must pay 4% of their income to the town of Novac-Nipton.

OOC: I hope you realize that the Canon is Martyr's ending, in which Mr. House takes over. So actually, he does have authority.

ooc- Yes from the treaty, but I'm asserting that the treaty is not legally binding and even if it is the NCR wouldn't follow it.

Ambassador Crocker- NCR

They can live under any basic human right laws as long as they don't go against the NCR constituion or NCR laws, but if they remain that basic then there shouldn't be any problems. As far as the caravan fee is concerned that also isn't going to work. If NCR caravans will face any taxes or fees to simply cross a community I can assure you they will simply take the I-15 and that more goods will be moved on NCR rail lines to bypass those fees.

@ Ambassador Lobotomite
If you are in the process of taking NCR property then the NCR is now in the process of war with your nation, I've given you many warnings on the subject and you've refused to listen. This is nothing personal only business.

Ambassador Lobotomite - The State of Utobitha

I'm sure that the House's machines will chase away that one band of raiders, but as soon his machines leave more raiders will come. With Black Mountains closer proximity we could send Nightkin to Novac at a moments notice. Invisible giants carrying Rebar Clubs and Light Machine Guns one-handed is a lot more traumatizing to raiders then a couple of the House's machines.

As for what you can do for us, any Stealth Boys you find through trade or saluaging would of course be a high priority, but electronics for radio equipment, lights and other necessities would also be welcome.