To be blunt, I get the impression that in their thousands of years of life, Vivec, Almalexia and even Sotha Sil to a lesser extent have probably had a LOT of sixual relationships. It stands to reason that at some point in time one of them would have become a parent of actual children, actual Elves, not abominations like the ones Vivec and Molag Bal produced.

I can't seem to find anything in the lore to verify this. I've tried searching. Does anybody have even an inkling of evidence that they'd had kids?

It seems absurdly, almost astronomically improbable that they would NOT have reproduced. As I said, none of the three were apparently celibate, nothing in any of the lore suggests that gods lose the power to reproduce (in fact most of the gods in the Elder Scrolls universe are quite fertile!), not to mention that birth control probably isn't all that common in Tamriel. I mean perhaps their divinity grants them the ability to..er... "shoot blanks" or something? But it seems logical they'd have wanted some heirs at some point.

I mean come on. All three members of the Tribunal, in various writings, have had their moments of being depicted as vigorously sixually active beings, who delighted in physical intimacy. I have a strong suspicion that when they weren't making love to one another they were making love to their own Ordinators, Armigers and Apprentices. At some point in time it stands to reason that nature takes its course, right?

Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe, against all odds, these three seemingly insatiable and perverted gods never once produced a single offspring. But that's boring and therefore probably wrong.

they believed themselves to be gods and immortal, i dont really see them as the type to want to pass on their genes (it would detract from their godlyness). it is said that elves arent the most fertile bunch to begin with, i would think that all the [censored] the tribunal went through would only diminish their ability to produce offspring.

Vehk really only puts his milk finger into other gods mouths, not really the best form of conception.

I don't think that they'd want to reproduce, given the power that their children would have.

Maybe the kind of divinity the Tribunal have prevents them from producing offspring with mortals?

It's not that I think they get free foolproof birth control as part of their powers, because that sounds dumb, it's that I feel like the child of a Tribune would be a conscious, involved process, a sort of personal ego-induced project.

But anyways, Indoril proudly claims relation with all three Tribunes, and Vivec styles himself as the child with two godly parents.

And Almalexia claims to have been the offspring of Boethiah.

Isn't it said that Vivec and Molag Bal had a race of monster children that live in the Molag Amur region?

Yes.

Of course, there are monsters all over Vvardenfell.

The entire http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/lessons.shtml would be worth a read regarding this. Especially Sermon 14, 18 and the following chapters where Vivec fights the Eight/Nine Monsters.

No.

The Sermon says Vivec gave birth to a series of monsters, which are all dissimilar to each other and therefore not a race, and he exterminated them all anyway.

Yay for Vivec! Father of the Year!

"Then that stretch of badlands that had been the site of the marriage fragmented and threw fire. And a race that is no more but that was terrible at the time to behold came forth. Born of the biters, that is all they did, and they ran amok across the lands of Veloth and even to the shores of Red Mountain." From Sermon 14.

That says they are a 'race', unless that's talking about a different group of monsters birthed by Vivec.

They are all different, so the Sermon's idea of a race is somewhat different.

Cleanliness is next to godliness. Have they ever considered that bathing is just as important as being divine? I doubt it.

But in all seriousness, I imagine that if they had children, it would be evident. Surely they would have high profiles in Morrowind. Especially one of Vivec's kids since he lives in Vvardenfell, the place we've actually visited in-game.

Almalexia would make a horrible mother.

EDIT: did she ever have any kids with Nerevar, before he died and she used the Tools on Lorkhan's heart?

A more complete excerpt:



Are you sure "the biters" refers to VV and MB?

The monsters Vivec created himself are the nine monsters which he begins to hunt in sermon 18. The Moon Axle, the Treasure Wood Sword, Horde Mountain, the Pocket Cabal, the Ruddy Man, City-Face, Lie Rock, and GULGA MOR JIL HYAET AE HOOM.

Of course, as everything else in the Sermons, it shouldn't be taken literally. None of these children are children. Even the numbers of them are false, for they are allegorical.

Actually it wouldn't surprise me if it were - they use magic for everything else, after all As for the Tribunal, I imagine that as gods they're able to control their fertility. But it does seem a bit strange that none of them ever appear to have had children, particularly given Vivec's reputation (and to a lesser degree, Almalexia's).

They had six, but the children they gave birth to were parallel lattices of whispered potentiality, not toddlers. Sheesh. And instead of growing up, they unfolded into new dimensions of secret movements.

In vivec's sword-meeting with cyrus the restless it is said that vicec has impregnated yokudan kings. :whisper:

Um...yes. We are all aware that Vivec is sixually attracted to both men AND women. The closed minded, twentieth century slur is not needed to describe such a lifestyle. Here dwell scholars of a higher caliber.

And I am well aware of the nine monsters Vehk spawned in the desert. I mentioned them in my opening post. While I find that story fascinating it's not really what I was looking for. In all likelihood, the lack of evidence might just be the evidence of lack in this case. Vehk did seem to enjoy....alternative sixual positions anyway. (come on..look where he stuffed Muatra in Azura.) Maybe he was ahead of his time when it comes to safe six?

Now that Sotha Sil is the real pervert you have to watch for. Think about it. Long white robe. Workshop. Magic powers. Young apprentices. Juicy, tender young apprentices. And I'd hate to know what he had to sleep with to make the Fabricants!

I feel reminded of the Almalexia Menstruation thread of one year ago

The answers the same: Gods have complete control over their physical appearance, and probably about ALL their physical features. Which would include reproduction. I mean, really, do you think gods (!) would be based on, or have need for seman and egg cells?

Oooh! Is it still around somewhere? I predict many lulz...

I mentioned before, but it seems to have gotten lost: did Almy have any kids by Nerevar (who was her husband, if I recall correctly, before she offed him and used Kagrenak's Tools)?

None ar ementioned, and I do think they would, so one can safely say no.
Unless you want to introduce a Priory of Sion conspriacy into Tamriel

And it sould still be around here on the lore forum. I remember seeing it when I went through my old posts, but I dont quite remember how old. A year old, cerca. It was locked in any case, but the concept was funny...

That's nothing. Now that KotN has come about, it appears that those threads about Cytodiil being shaped like a Uterus are actually completely correct!