The Two Suns - Collection & Thoughts

Post » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:38 pm

So, what do you think the two suns do in the http://c0da.es/prophet Here's what people have thought in http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1478612-the-prophet-of-landfall-illustrated/, in chronological order. (Sorry for the inconsistent usage of the forum's quote function; it seems one can "only" use 10 quoted blocks of text per post at maximum.)

The only reason (I can think of that) the moons would become suns would be if Lorkhan's corpse tore its way into Aetherius. I don't see Lorkhan wanting to do that... and I don't see the Thalmor wanting to send his corpse there.

"...the Hurling Disk, it is conjectured, contains a strange mingling of magic from both the Solar and Lunar spheres." [quotes http://www.imperial-library.info/content/vehks-book-hours-concerning-dragon-break -AN]

Don't think that's how TES works...I think the added sun would just increase magic rather then messing with Nirn's climates.

Some of my guesses on top of, or in line with, those (that I actually thought are all my own until I read through the Prophet thread :tongue:):

- They could be Masser and Secunda. They seem different in size. It could be night, and there's some unorthodox color coming from somewhere, possibly related to the whole Prophet–Numidium confrontation. Or, it's just an artistic coloring. :shrug: Or, it's a day, and the moons are still out for some reason, oddly colored.

- They really don't mean anything, they are of no consequence. They are there just as a hats-off to an oversight of how, indeed, could Anu hide himself into a sun, when there was no sun yet.

- Related to the above hypothesis, there was no oversight. Anu indeed created the first sun in hiding in it, and Magnus' was just the second one. For some reason, the first(?) sun was invisible this whole time. It shining visibly now could mean that Anu isn't hiding (or sleeping?(!)) in it anymore. After all, "the dream is starting to know longer need the Dreamer" is one of MK's cryptic lines.

- During the 4th or 5th era, someone or something actually launched him/her/itself into Aetherius, thus forming a new sun. Overshadowing for some future Elder Scrolls game?

- It was actually Numidium's comeback that made the second sun. After all, MK quoted this:

and answered only: "Yes." Only that we can't be sure whether "yes" meant this particular part, since there were other valid points in Aranarkus' post, too, considering, for example, the nature of the Prophet.

Please drop the "is this canon?" discussion. Let it not matter in this thread. Let's concentrate on the whole suns thing and whether it means something. If not, here's a collection of everything that has been said (to my knowledge) about the two suns in the comic. Do with it what you wish. :unsure2:

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Post » Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:08 pm

My initial thought was that something (probably Numidium) tore it's way out of Aetherius.

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Post » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:23 am

That's what I like the most as well. :) Coming back to existence, tearing a hole on its way. Also suitably bad-ass!

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Post » Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:56 am

The original text mentions multiple suns in the sky; that's not just artistic license on the part of the illustrator.

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Post » Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:04 pm

Suns are holes in Aetherius. I had first thought that perhaps Lorkhan had completed his whole "New Man" thing and had succeeded in Amaranthing, however that didn't exactly provide a sound reason for a sun to be there. More realistically, the collective Thalmor tore out of Aetherius just as Magnus did. That would make sense why they were heading up the gradience into Aetherius and not down.
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Post » Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:15 pm

The Thalmor probably created another whole in the sky for them to ascend to.

Or, like viltuska_rebooted wrote, that second sun was made by Numidium.

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Post » Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:40 pm

I don't think it's the Thalmor. They don't just want to escape Mundus, they want to literally undo Mundus. Numidium would fit, but since there is no remark about how odd two suns are, I'd imagine the second one has been around for a while - which would mean Numidium's return already was some kind ago in this theory, which in turn would kinda negate the "sudden appearance" aspect of it in the comic. Also, wasn't Numidium in some kinda weird parallel time instead of Aetherius?

As for Amaranth theories... it cannot be the sun of Anu the Dreamer, because that sun exists outside of the current dream (otherwise Anu couldn't sleep in it). It's possible, I suppose, that somebody created a sun to repeat Anu's feat, so now we have two suns and in one of them somebody dreams up an own universe... but eh, that would kinda mean the big mythological event happens *before* the story, which I would find a bit odd.
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