I mean I never really ran into any problems, and I already installed a good 20 mods, so would it be a bad idea to wait until (if i ever do ) i run into problems????? I mean, i dont really wanna use BOSS because from what I have been reading there have been a lot of issues with it lately.....could I manually organize my load order in NMM????? That is if I actually DL the USKP's.

Something tells me you don't really care...

You should be using the USKP, and the other patches if you use the DLC or High Resolution pack. You should also be using BOSS.

Yes you can manually change your load order with NMM.

If I didnt care I wouldnt be asking. I was wondering if someone would be help me do my load order manually if I took a screenshot of it right now.

Yes, use it. It fixes quite a lot of things going on in the background, and sometimes, it will be too late if you're only installing it when you've run into a problem.
The USKP is one of the mods that you can't go wrong with.

Yes, you can manage your load order manually with NMM. Download the USKP and sort it right after the ESM files (skyrim.esm, update.esm and any DLCs you may have).

I'm going to echo the recommendation to use the Unofficial patches, there's really not any reason not to. And I haven't heard of any issues with BOSS, but if you're using more than a handful of mods, it's extremely helpful. But if you just have a few mods and you know where to put them in the load order, then yeah, NMM will let you sort them manually, as has been said.

Haha!

On topic: Yes and yes.

There's loads of things it fixes and you'll have a much smoother experience because of it

I've never had a problem with BOSS personally, but yes you can set your load order manually in NMM

- Hypno

http://i1073.photobucket.com/albums/w389/mmm_buddah23/LoadOrder.jpg

Can you take a look at the load order?

So I should put it right after SPIKE.ESM and right before Highrestexturepack01.esp ?

He's making a joke about your name.

Necessary? No. It's not required for the game to function. But it's incredibly good at fixing bugs, and making the game into what the developers intended (but don't have time to patch).

It shouldn't cause problems, and it definitely will fix them.

You can organise your LO with NMM as previously stated. However, BOSS is generally good. What issues have you heard of? There's the occasional person who has some issue (which is easily fixed) but there's the silent millions of times it works fine. I like those odds.

If it helps, USKP generally fixes retroactively. So if you wait and install it once you've hit a bug, it'll probably fix the bug. (and it can be applied to old save games just fine) But the beauty of the USKP lies in fixing bugs you never knew about, nor would know about. So I recommend you get it now. No downsides to it, after all.

Take a look at the number of bugs that the USKP has fixed, and then ask yourself if you're comfortable playing the game without those bugs being fixed. If so, you don't have to use it. If you would like to play with those bugs fixed, then play with it. That's basically all it comes down to.

BOSS is important to assist with mod load order and there are no issues with it. You have misleading information.

USKP, must have mod in my opinion. It FIXES so many things.

Post your mod load order as it is now and we can have a look.

If you did care you wouldn't have chosen your username.. he was just joking on it. What BOSS issues are you referring to? There are none as far as I know. And yes, the UPs are quite necessary.

ninjas, ninjas everywhere

Use BOSS, and use the Unofficial Patches. You will have more issues if you don't use BOSS and don't use the Unofficial Patches.

As you add more mods down the line, you'll find that correcting your load order at that point may also cause issues - get it right (as BOSS sees it ) from the start.

Whoa, put Update.esm behind Skyrim.esm

It's wrong. Update.esm goes right after Skyrim.esm, always. Feed BOSS your load order and you'll be fine.

ok, im gonna give boss a shot....buuuuuuuut where do i get it from?

edit : found it but which one do i download ? BOSS v 2.1.1 installer.exe?

BOSS can be downloaded from its Google Code page.
http://code.google.com/p/better-oblivion-sorting-software/downloads/list

Edit : I used the installer.

yeah found it, but should i just donwload the exe file? Also, will it automatically change my load order in NMM?

Yes, that's a good place to put it.

Download http://code.google.com/p/better-oblivion-sorting-software/downloads/detail?name=BOSS%20v2.1.1%20Archive.7z&can=2&q=and extract the files to your Skyrim folder (placing them in a folder named BOSS is a good idea). Then run either BOSS.exe or BOSS GUI.exe (I forget which one, it really shouldn't matter).

Ok, im watching gophers BOSS tutorial right now, ill put any more questions up in a min if i have any more.

"Is fixing a bunch of bugs and issues with the game so that I don't ever encounter them really necessary?" Well, I guess at that point it's up to you to decide.

As long as the game you want to sort the load order on is the Active one, you don't need the GUI. The GUI is good for choosing a different game to sort the mods with. The BOSS exe just runs the sorter and gives you the results.

Just got SKSE installed, man, I feel like ive been going to school today with mods!

Whoa, whoa, what's been wrong with BOSS lately?

Unless people mean they have a lot of unrecognised plugins, in which case yeah...that's a bit of an issue right now. If there are problems with order though then people should really report them.

Ok! Now that I have SKSE installed, do I ALWAY have to launch my game from SKSE loader?????????