http://www.museumtrail.org/images/CreedeHistoric/RouletteWheel.jpg

Nawh. I passed my Chance and Statistics course. Still the sideways meaning of sideways has little to do with geometric similarity.

Not much of a wheel if the spokes aren't solid. I think I get it though.


Well, an "I" is pretty much the shape of a tower. I mean, they're both just pillars.

So the secret of the Tower is CHIM, and a prominent phrase used with CHIM is I, the tower is I, and a wheel turned sideways is I, thus the Tower is the wheel, so the secret of the wheel is CHIM? And the Thief is trying to obtain CHIM from the wheel?

That's the kind of not blatantly obvious explanation to the question I was kind of hoping for.

Where does it ever say that it must be a Capital Eye? None who have achieved CHIM have ever written 'I' themselves, only dictated it to others.




The wheel doesn't bear any weight.

It is important to note, as has already been mentioned, that the Wheel is more of a metaphor than a de facto model of the world. Its not all-inclusive and will not answer every inquiry, hence why there are other models as well (such as the egg-shaped universe).

Yes, it is about CHIM (the Crowned Tower), take a gander at http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/vehk_teaching.shtml

"--The Tower is an ideal, which, in our world of myth and magic, means that it is so real that it becomes dangerous. It is the existence of the True Self within the Universal Self... The Thief is another metaphorical absolute; in this case, he represents the "taking of the Tower" or, and sometimes more importantly, the "taking" of the Tower's secret.
--Imagine being able to feel with all of your senses the relentless alien terror that is God and your place in it, which is everywhere and therefore nowhere, and realizing that it means the total dissolution of your individuality into boundless being. Imagine that and then still being able to say "I". The "I" is the Tower.
--Stand in its flux and remain whole of mind. Look at it sideways and see the "I". This is the Tower.
--One that knows CHIM observes the Tower without fear. Moreso: he resides within."

The Tower is the ideal, something to be attained, something to be conquered - it is a daunting and threatening fortification. The "I" is the Tower, the "I" is the thing that must be reckoned with or conquered or stolen in order to attain CHIM. When you achieve CHIM that fortification is no longer so daunting, you've stolen its secret and "reside within" - in siege terms you've "taken the Tower".


Note that Vivec is the Theif, and that Vivec achieved CHIM.

Ah, now that all makes sense. I really should have read those long ago. Substitute the Tower and the I with Mundus and you've got a coherent statement. Thanks guys, I'm glad to finally get CHIM.

Considering Mundus is often metaphorically described as being a wheel, with an axle and such (example can be found in one of Vivec's sermons, and the Staff of Chaos if I am correct), when you turn a wheel and its axle on one of the wheels, it looks like a capital "I." Don't believe me? Take this http://akapplegarth.us/uploads/images/projects/Edgebot/wheelaxle1.jpg and turn your head till it looks like an "I"

I thought sermon zero explained that vivec committed no crime and was no thief, so he only boasted to have CHIM...

Metaphysical technicality.

Vivec didn't. VEHK did. Vehk the mortal is the one that killed Nerevar. But because that is a separate timeline, Vivec the god didn't technically kill him.

Vivec, V'Vehk, Vehk and Vehk.

There is a secret confession in the Sermons.

Where do http://onceuponawin.com/2009/03/04/win-pics-spokey-dokes/ fit into this cosmology?

Right about there.