Am I in the Wrong here?

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:59 pm

to make your daughter feel better i'd suggest showing her pictures of children who were spoiled to the point of obesity
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_mWQ72omLwKw/SRw40RMwUlI/AAAAAAAASmY/A63_boG62-Y/s400/maury.bmp

i'd also recommend against having zero sweets in your own home, while it isn't healthy to eat a lot of it, it also isn't good to completely avoid it


I guess I was a bit misleading there when I said "we don't have that kind of thing in our house". We do on occasion buy Ice cream, or maybe let them get a candy bar at the store, or a milkshake. It's not a Zero Tolerance policy by any means, but, we do try to limit the amount of sugar in our house to a very small amount. Halloween candy stays for a week before it's tossed out, same with Easter Candy. We make cookies at Christmas time, but if they still around a few days after Christmas they become bird food. Pumpkin or Apple pie at Thanksgiving. We aren't misers, but neither do we want our children to end up living unhealthy lives.
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Greg Cavaliere
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:06 pm

Of course you're in the right. Aside from the possibility of diabetes it's absolutely horrible for your daughters teeth to eat that junk. Kudos for sticking to your guns.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:35 pm

Of course you're in the right. Aside from the possibility of diabetes it's absolutely horrible for your daughters teeth to eat that junk. Kudos for sticking to your guns.


Actually, that is certainly a very major issue, and one that we've already had to deal with concerning Kiara. She has already had to have a baby tooth yanked(one that's not due in until she's 11-12) and had to have a spacer put in, AND she has 10 other cavities, 3 of which were very serious in nature.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:41 am

Actually, that is certainly a very major issue, and one that we've already had to deal with concerning Kiara. She has already had to have a baby tooth yanked(one that's not due in until she's 11-12) and had to have a spacer put in, AND she has 10 other cavities, 3 of which were very serious in nature.

That's awful. I get that a lot of times giving kids that kind of stuff will make them happier or quiet them down, but that's just not worth the overall damage it does.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:22 pm

Not at all.

Yeeeep.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:28 pm

You did the right thing, as has been said many times already. You are the parent now, and once or if ever your mother understands that, things will go better. Sad to see it go that way, though.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:27 am

First, let me say to everyone, I appreciate your responses, it does make me feel better about how I've handled the situation. My daughter is 7(almost 8), and she has low will-power when it comes to eating sweets(I guess this comes from us not having them here in our house). She is more or less of the mind that if it's there, she'll eat it, which makes letting her go over there a bad idea, since not only does my mom not restrict what she eats, my mom fully supports it and buys virtually truckloads of junk food. Which is just another reason why I see no way I can back down on this, my mom has to get rid of all that sugary crap, or at least restrict it to one cupboard full, out of Kiara's reach.


Maybe you can compromise and allow a few sweets in the house? Not enough to totally be over kill, but maybe just something small, then whenever she gets it from someone else, she won't go friggin nuts and overindulge herself. Compromises work as well. JUST a suggestion. You can make all the noises you want at this suggestion if you want!

edit- I'm an idiot. I didn't read the above posts...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:54 am

Actually, that is certainly a very major issue, and one that we've already had to deal with concerning Kiara. She has already had to have a baby tooth yanked(one that's not due in until she's 11-12) and had to have a spacer put in, AND she has 10 other cavities, 3 of which were very serious in nature.

Hoo boy...maybe you should have mom pay her dental bills.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:28 am

Well, it's very obvious that your mother is being absolutely ridiculous and you are completely in the right for wanting to take care of your daughter's health, and I applaud you for that. However, I do not think that your solution is the right one.

Completely breaking off the relation between your daughter and her grandparents when they obviously love each other so much is way too drastic I think. It seems especially unfair towards your father, who, as I read your posts, is not directly responsible for the situation (except for not telling his wife to back off of course). Its clear that you and you're mother don't get along, but have you ever considered that instead of just dropping off your daughter for a whole weekend and handing over all responsibility you can also visit your grandparents with the entire family for a day every few weeks or so, so you can supervise yourself what she's eating?
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:32 am

Well, it's very obvious that your mother is being absolutely ridiculous and you are completely in the right for wanting to take care of your daughter's health, and I applaud you for that. However, I do not think that your solution is the right one.

Completely breaking off the relation between your daughter and her grandparents when they obviously love each other so much is way too drastic I think. It seems especially unfair towards your father, who, as I read your posts, is not directly responsible for the situation (except for not telling his wife to back off of course). Its clear that you and you're mother don't get along, but have you ever considered that instead of just dropping off your daughter for a whole weekend and handing over all responsibility you can also visit your grandparents with the entire family for a day every few weeks or so, so you can supervise yourself what she's eating?


Hmm, wouldn't work very well. My mom and my wife do NOT get along, and haven't since about a month after our oldest(Kiara) was born. By not get along, I mean, if they are in the same room for more then an say..an hour, and it's not Christmas day, or some other major holiday, [censored]'s gonna hit the fan, and damn quickly. Unfortunately, things have been deterioating between my family and my mom for years now. she's gotten rather...intractable as she's gotten older, and no matter how wrong she might be, she doesn't back down over her viewpoints. No such thing as compromise, as you may have noticed by now from my posts in this thread. It's a sad situation, but one that is not easily fixed I fear.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:11 pm

You're looking out for the safety and health of your child. I think you're in the right.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:38 pm

Hmm, wouldn't work very well. My mom and my wife do NOT get along, and haven't since about a month after our oldest(Kiara) was born. By not get along, I mean, if they are in the same room for more then an say..an hour, and it's not Christmas day, or some other major holiday, [censored]'s gonna hit the fan, and damn quickly. Unfortunately, things have been deterioating between my family and my mom for years now. she's gotten rather...intractable as she's gotten older, and no matter how wrong she might be, she doesn't back down over her viewpoints. No such thing as compromise, as you may have noticed by now from my posts in this thread. It's a sad situation, but one that is not easily fixed I fear.

That's too bad. There really is no easy way to solve this when the problems have been going back for such a long time already, especially when dealing with old people (who, in my experience, are very unlikely to ever change for the better again). Considering the situation you probably did the best thing then, though sadly in this case the best thing still isn't very nice.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:30 pm

I have to agree you are in the right. Espically when you said your family has a history of cancer, and obesity. Since you have diabeties, you ahve to be extra carefull now.

This is not about who is the better parent or what not, this is about her HEALTH! If her health means not seeing the Grand parents then so be it. As you know it is so much harder to deal with it later, instead of nipping it in the bud now. So I believe you have done the correct thing.

How about your dad? Can her talk to your mom?
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:53 am

So, I've decided to forbid my oldest daughter from spending the weekends with my Mom&Dad. The reason is simple: She refuses to stop feeding her an excessive amount of sugar. I always knew she gave her a good bit, but I never realized how much until my daughter came home this Sunday, and told us that she had 4 toaster strudels and 2 poptarts, for breakfast alone, on Sunday morning. She was sick Monday and couldn't go to school, and my daughter even said she thought it was because of how much sugar she had eaten. I went to talk to my mom about this, and asked her point blank to not feed her so much sugar(the breakfast thing is NOT an isolated incident, my mom buys Italian ices, 3 boxes at a time, and will give my daughter(Kiara) upwards of a box and a half in a single weekend, tons of chips, cookies, and other sugary treats). I pointed to the fact that I have diabetes and that I do not want Kiara to end up wth it as well, not to mention, being overweight my entire childhood/teenage years, I don't want her to be overweight as well. She refused to back down whatsoever, and when I said "Well, until you can reconsider, Kiara is no longer allowed to come over. Her response: So?. Now, I know she couldn't possibly have meant that, because I know how much she loves and adores Kiara, but the fact that she is completely unwilling to negotiate whatssoever royally pisses me off. I even told her that I don't mind her giving her SOME sugary things, especially since we really don't allow that stuff over here, so an indulgence once and a while over there is ok, but not to the extent that she currently allows.

So, am I wrong here for caring about my daughters health? I broke the news to my daughter and she has barely stopped crying in an hour, It's broken her heart, but I just don't feel I can back down in this situation. I often fight with my mom over how to raise my daughters, but none of the other fights are nearly as serious and potentially life-threatening as this one. Opinions?


It is your right and your obligation as a parent to decide how to raise your child as well as protect them. If this means forbidding her from going to see grandma and grandpa that just may have to be the case. As you pointed out you have diabetes and want to make sure what happened to you doesn't happen to your child which is very understandable. What maybe necessary is going with your child to visit them so you can make sure she doesn't get any super sugary sweets.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:28 pm

I think you have every right to make such a rule, you're still your parent's kid

lolwut

Anyway yeah OP is in the right if what they put is accurate and unbiased. I am not a parent and don't plan to be for a very, very long time, but I would do the same thing in your situation OP.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:40 pm

Well, it's very obvious that your mother is being absolutely ridiculous and you are completely in the right for wanting to take care of your daughter's health, and I applaud you for that. However, I do not think that your solution is the right one.

Completely breaking off the relation between your daughter and her grandparents when they obviously love each other so much is way too drastic I think. It seems especially unfair towards your father, who, as I read your posts, is not directly responsible for the situation (except for not telling his wife to back off of course). Its clear that you and you're mother don't get along, but have you ever considered that instead of just dropping off your daughter for a whole weekend and handing over all responsibility you can also visit your grandparents with the entire family for a day every few weeks or so, so you can supervise yourself what she's eating?

I disagree, being a parent myself. I have experienced inlaws and relatives spoiling my children with not only unhealthy treats, but excess material posessions.
I had to stand my ground and restrict visits until the behavior stopped, and yes, it made me the bad guy. Oh well.
Poor eating habits begin in childhood, and children need to be taught what is and ins't proper nutrition. Things like poptarts, pancakes, and breakfast pastries are not healthy, and actually cause blood sugar spikes, then lows, which propels the individual to desire more carbohydrates. A good healthy breakfast is not cold cereal with milk. It is whole grain toast with peanut butter, (or poached /soflt boiled eggs as a protein). Fruit juice should instead be replaced by whole fruit and a glass of water. Juice is marketed as healthy, but in reality, it is one of the worst things a parent can give a child. Sugar is sugar, whether it comes from fruit (whole fruit contains fiber) vegetables, bee vomit, or grasses. Juice is liquid fructose, a sugar. My kids never had juice growing up. To get a child to eat healthy, the parent has to set and example, and to keep the child feeling a part of things, they should be allowed to choose fruits and vegetalbles for their weekly snacking and meals. This can be done on grocery trips, and is a great way to incorporate real world lessons in simple mathematics such as addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division.
That said, my fifteen year old son prefers pasta and bolognese sauce for breakfast, over anything else. He's healthy, runs cross country, and turned out mostly fine. Now If I can just get him past the teenage years, life at home will be peaceful.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:39 pm

I'm going to agree with the bazillion and one other people who have said you are right.

I lived with my grandparents during the day while my mum worked (she was a single parent) and there was always sweets, crisps and biscuits in that house and eating them wasn't a treat, it was just a daily occurrence. It really fostered an attitude with me that eating 2-3 biscuits at a time wasn't unusual and as soon as I got old enough to 'help myself' to food, my weight ballooned. My grandparents never restricted what I ate and by the time I was about 12, I was eating portion sizes the same as theirs and feasting on rubbish. I stayed with them on a Saturday night and would have a cup of Bovril and a pork pie....for supper. :sick: Its resulted in a really horrible attitude to food where a) I genuinely don't know whether I'm hungry anymore and B) I find it really difficult to make good choices with food. Its really plagued me through my teenage years and it's only now (I'm 27) that I'm eating healthily and losing the weight it's taken me 2 decades to gain. :(

It sounds like I'm making excuses for being overweight but these things really do start in childhood. It nurtures how you think about food and your attitudes towards it. You're doing really well by helping her make these decisions early on, and it's great she's a smart enough cookie to know when she's had too much of a good thing. :)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:08 pm

Your mother's response of "So?" sounds rather childish to me. I would have done the same as you. However a child has the right to a relationship with his or her grandparents, so for your daughter's sake you should try to work something out.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:20 pm

your in the right, your kid your rules you dont want your kid to die so you are being an enforcer
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:46 pm

You are correct.

Now that I declared it, it is definitive.
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Laura Ellaby
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:05 pm

You are correct.

Now that I declared it, it is definitive.


The legendary Tausig2 posted? You're truly blessed OP. When the Tausig says something, it is immediately declared a universal truth. The world is round thanks to Tausig2, gravity exists due to Tausig2, AIDS came about because of. . . Nevermind. :P
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:13 pm

You're doing the right thing.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:08 pm

No it isn't. If the child was lets say 12 or older, they're able to make their own decisions and should know that, that too much junk food is pretty bad for you.

Seeing that she's 7, now makes it irrelevant.


No it does not matter a childs age, whether they area teenager or not they are most likely going to eat more sugary food then they should.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:43 pm

AIDS came about because of. . . Nevermind. :P


Because of direct violation of my Law.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:20 pm

Sigh, new twist. Just got off the phone with my dad, and found out that he actually more or less supports my mom. Told me that "They never deprived me of stuff like that when I was kid, and that I shouldn't be depriving them of seeing Kiara". I was utterly flabbergasted, as my dad is normally an extremely reasonable person, and not prone to saying stuff like that. I mean, if it hadn't been for the poor feeding habits I was given by them when I was a child, there is a damn good chance I wouldn't have diabetes now >< I can remember being fed cupcakes and cookies for breakfast, Chips and soda for a snack after school, soda for lunch/dinner, Ice cream and chips for bedtime snack, EVERY day, without fail. ><. Sigh, I'm actually very upset right now after that conversation. I just can't believe that my dad, the most logical person I know(and the most intelligent to be honest), is actually in support of my mom >< Damnit this [censored] svcks.
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