My theories on the Dwemer

Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:47 am

I was thinking about Morrowind a lot yesterday and came up with these ideas.

Disappearance:
The heart of Lorkhan turned rock to lava when it landed in Vvardenfall, creating Red mountain. This shows the awesome power of the heart -- it is capable of fueling a volcano for ever. I believe that Kagrenac managed to succeed in aiming the power of the heart at the Dwemer, but miscalculated the outcome. He thought the power would be given to them, but instead it was pointed at them like a gun. The force burned them alive in an instant, leaving those piles of ash you find on the floor of their ruins.

Energy sources:
You can't disagree with most of what Harold Trontskii said in the Dwemer energy study (http://www.imperial-library.info/fsg/tsbasiliskarticle1.shtml) said. however, I differ from him on some points. It is possible that the Dwemer discovered an energy source that, after being burned, would recondense into a re-light-able source of energy. The Dwemer used this to constantly re-boil the steam in their golems. Steam Centurions -- who leak steam -- constantly gather more, while other Animunculi are water tight. It is also possible that Dwemer discovered the way to turn steam energy into mechanical energy, and that into electrical energy. Although a massive stretch, it explains their lights as well as their massive steam turbines.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:33 pm

It's not totally implausible at face value, but I think you just aren't being metaphysical enough.
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:34 am

They used to heart with the Numidium to become gods themselves as the golden skin of the Numidium. The heart was going to be an energy source, yes, but as a battery for the Numidium.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:08 pm

another thing on the Dwemer- i was reading up on possibilities to translate their text, and upon trying to see if i can use it to actually make sense of divine meta phisics or something of the sort, i noticed that it is in a square. could it be like a crossword puzzle? or ceaser's box? or just plain left-right?
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:55 pm

They used to heart with the Numidium to become gods themselves as the golden skin of the Numidium. The heart was going to be an energy source, yes, but as a battery for the Numidium.

In his last moments, I can't help but wonder if Kagrenac had the feeling he was forgetting something...
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:53 pm

In his last moments, I can't help but wonder if Kagrenac had the feeling he was forgetting something...

I think he forgot to turn off the oven, or was it put the power switch to "on" on the Numidium. Meh, details, details.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:21 pm

another thing on the Dwemer- i was reading up on possibilities to translate their text, and upon trying to see if i can use it to actually make sense of divine meta phisics or something of the sort, i noticed that it is in a square. could it be like a crossword puzzle? or ceaser's box? or just plain left-right?

Its already been confirmed that Dwemer text is gibberish.
In his last moments, I can't help but wonder if Kagrenac had the feeling he was forgetting something...

Yea well, when you've got the Chimer army literally breaking down your door you have to act rashly...
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:58 pm

Yea well, when you've got the Chimer army literally breaking down your door you have to act rashly...

Psh, you know he forgot to put the laundry in the dryer
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:42 pm

But why would Bethesda make it all just gibberish? Don't they have an extensive Lore department? and most of the non-book text has meaning, including that in oblivion (Alyied for some reason had the same exact symbols as the Dwemer)
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:32 pm

When Kagrenac taped the heart it understood his intentions of making the dwemer and the heart as one, which it did perfectly, just not as the dwemer wished for.
As the old saying goes "watch what you wish for" as you may not understand the full implications.
The dwemer are now exactly what Kagrenac wanted, part of Lorkhan, the Secunda part of lorkhan to be exact.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Lunar_Lorkhan

And therefore i choose the "kinda of" option under "do you agree with the disapearance?"
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:47 pm

But why would Bethesda make it all just gibberish? Don't they have an extensive Lore department? and most of the non-book text has meaning, including that in oblivion (Alyied for some reason had the same exact symbols as the Dwemer)

Whim...
When Kagrenac taped the heart it understood his intentions of making the dwemer and the heart as one, which it did perfectly, just not as the dwemer wished for.
As the old saying goes "watch what you wish for" as you may not understand the full implications.
The dwemer are now exactly what Kagrenac wanted, part of Lorkhan, the Secunda part of lorkhan to be exact.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Lunar_Lorkhan

Based on what? Just linking to a text without actually making a connection to it isn't helpful.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:46 pm

I believe they sent themselves back in time to found their own civilization in a never ending loop.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:07 pm

Based on what? Just linking to a text without actually making a connection to it isn't helpful.


The Dwemer part is just my theory, the link to the Lunar Lorkhan was to show the connection between Secunda and Lorkhan.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:29 pm

but couldn't the Dwemer have discovred electricity?
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:52 pm

but couldn't the Dwemer have discovred electricity?

It had been discovered when the first mage cast "lightening." They just seem to be the only ones that found a way to find uses for it, other than zapping people.
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Post » Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:53 pm

I always thought the dwemer zero-summed...
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Post » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:11 am

But why would Bethesda make it all just gibberish? Don't they have an extensive Lore department? and most of the non-book text has meaning, including that in oblivion (Alyied for some reason had the same exact symbols as the Dwemer)


Lack of time. Nobody thought about it. The artist being told to just cook something up that looks like a book. You're not supposed to be able to read them anyway. So plenty of reasons.

The glyphs are actually part of a valid alphabet though, and it hasn't been random ever since.

but couldn't the Dwemer have discovred electricity?


Maybe but when they're sticking steel into lava and keep their machines running long after their death, and generally bending the Earth Bones, who cares?

More importantly though, Tamriel is in a magic-technological decline. In the Dawn Era many of the original magics were still unchanged. The people themselves were strong and better. So the Dwemer didn't discover more, they remembered more.
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