My Oblivion install has the music replaced with daggerfall+arena mp3s :rock:

That is actually available in a stable and fully usable form, yes. The_UCM has been working on an expansion to the Imperial City for some time now, and an early pre-beta is available for download.

You guys should check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGWPowZ3_hM. It is about the city of Venice and it is well rendered even if each you visit can be considered quite small in the end.

Do you remember the name of the mod?

http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25113

Maybe that one.

That's fairly awesome. Thanks for posting that.

Back to the topic of generated cities. Daggerfall's a bit before my time and, I'll admit, the graphics don't encourage me to go looking for it. But there's one obvious difference between Daggerfall and Oblivion/Morrowind and that's public access to a construction set. Static cities (as opposed to generated cities) make exterior modding possible. Generated or random cities would make modding much more difficult.

To give cities a bigger feel, I use Bannasplit's Better Cities and the Unique Landscapes mods. The two in combination make cities like Chorrol and Bravil seem much larger and the areas around them more developed. It also removes some of the "clash" I felt in vanilla Oblivion when I exited a city and was immediately in the wilderness.

~ Dani ~

The perfect location for a huge, sprawling city already exists, thanks to Onra's maps. As an added benefit, it ties in perfectly with Iliana's Elsweyr-Anequina. I'm thinking, of course, of Senchal. Filling the entire tip of a peninsula, it has a wide variety of attractions. Harbor area on three sides. Extensive abandoned ruins (from when the city was burned due to plague). Bazaars and markets. Administrative centers. Slums. Drug dens (and an active criminal element). A recently added resort area built atop older construction.

I see this being a combination of open city for harbors, abandoned ruins/slums and resort beach, with everything else sealed off in individual closed districts much like the Imperial City handles it. There could even be a defensive perimeter outside the city-proper, a portion of peninsula void of all save tree-stumps, flanked by shabby wall with equally shabby spaced watchtowers. I'm sorta surprised that no ones started in on this yet, though it would admittedly take a heck of a lot of work!

-Decrepit-

StarX is already working on Senchal, as posted regularly in the thread for Onra's heightmaps.

check out the capital of the mod Nehrim. Probably the most well done city out there.

Cool! I've not followed that thread in some time. Will have to check it out.

-Decrepit-

Is it complete or almost?

Uhm, not at all. As Onra redid the whole Tamriel Heightmap to make it easier to handle and to further improve the quality it was put on hold as the version I had wouldn't work with the new heightmap. I only had the exterior and the harbours almost ready. As I'll be working on Valenwood mainly in the time to come I won't be working on Senchal.

Oh, that's too bad.

Looks great. I'll admit, that's how I've imagined IC will be. I never heard of that Venetica before.

I started making one. An large scale city that is. http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1091070-wipz-morthain-a-large-scale-open-city/page__p__15915519__fromsearch__1&#entry15915519. Abandoned it though, mainly due to engine limitations. Those being that without RAEVWD the house aren't VWD. So it just looks silly. I've contemplated doing a completely flat city though, but the problem would persist if you managed to get on a roof.

Is there a link to this awesome Nehrim mod? I need to check it out!

I had a quick look at this and it could be solved by making your buildings different models to vanilla ones and giving them low-poly distant models. If you want you could use the ones you see from outside a city.

Ye gods, Nehrim has been constantly on the front page of the forum for the last week. The release thread is just four threads away as I write this. Or did you mean this to be sarcastic?

You wouldn't really need RAEVWD, just check the "visable when distant" box on the houses, make sure the houses have a _far file, and have people run TES4LodGen after install. (something people should be doing already anyways)