Missing a few thousand or so steps isn't really that important

Perhaps some perspective is needed.

Point 1: Really, what does it matter? It's called the 7000 steps, and it's a long(ish) journey for a character who's only on his second quest. No-one gave a crap until some guy actually counted them Question: Did YOU count them?

Point 2: Imagine the scenario, developer one announces 7000 steps, and that there will be actually 7000 steps. Developer two says to developer one that there simply isn't the ingame space for 7000 steps unless the mountain is 10 times it's current size. That's ingame scaling at work.
Should develepor one be then compelled to re-announce that the 7000 steps doesn't actually have 7000 steps? Or does he, not unreasonably, assume that people won't give much of a crap because the path itself is quite arduous for a new player on his second quest, and that they wouldn't even notice anyway.

Point 3: The game is not faulty or suffer from [whatever] coding because there isn't actually 7000 steps. That's being overdramatic.

Until, that is, someone does count them and posts up the number, and then suddenly people are retrospectively insulted. I mean, come on, it's not like it's just short of 7000 steps, it's like 1/10. That sounds to me like just about everybody, everybody didn't really care or were too bothered to actually count. That's not a minor shortfall, it's a rather major one, and yet most people simply did not notice or suspect.

I think those fake 7000 steps is a long-enough journey, maybe it should be literally 7000 in hardcoe mode or something, but overall.. I guess it's fine with me if its 700 steps instead of 7000.
And this is a minor thing anyway, it doesn't affect the gameplay so people shouldn't really make a big deal out of this. If this hugely affects the gameplay, then I'd completely understand.

That is 7000 steps in the whole game.. not just on the mountain...

The first step is... Admitting you have a problem...

The last step is... Oops, we will add that in the next update... Forgot one or two... thousand...

i have figured it out. its 7000 steps from Dragonreach to High Hrothgar not from the base of the mountain.

Hang on, so people are actually upset that there isn't 7,000 steps? I was seriously hoping this was a joke. This is such a non-issue that to be upset about it is, quite frankly, childish.

Does it stop you defeating dragons? No
Does it stop you completing any quests? No
Does it change people's disposition towards you? No
Does it make the game freeze? No
Does it render the game impossible to play? No

Grow up

Personally I'm going to hold on to the fact that there are 7000 steps, no one can take that away from me.

I don't believe you.

People are forgetting that the world is not to scale. Tamriel is supposed to be a continent but it's smaller than Hawaii in the games. If Skyrim were set to lore scale, then it would be able to count 7000 steps.

I, personally, like to think that the name is metaphorical; that it doesn't actually refer to the steps, themselves. I adopted this thought when I first heard about High Hrothgar, because it sounded like a spiritual place. The journey to HH, therefore, became a more spiritual journey than anything else. And those stones you can read on the way up only made me feel that way even more

There used to be 7,000 steps to the HH Elevator that took you to the top, but Occupy Ivarstead is so out of hand that they had to shut it down.

I cant believe people are crying because there isn't 7000 steps lol?

Think about what else he "lied" or "spun" think there are a few worse problems than omg I'm not going to play it because there isnt 7000 steps lol.

Tbh if there was actually 7000 steps I'd get bored and I'd just use tcl or speedmult to get there quicker lol

I always thought it was supposed to be 7000 steps to the Throat of the World (the peak). And you can't possibly count every step because many are in ruins or buried under dirt or snow. This is a failure of a topic.

I was pretty sure there weren't 7000 steps and for a moment, I thought I should count them. That moment lasted 1 or 2 seconds, I can't believe someone actually counted them.

Oblivion "Lies" = Hand-Crafted Dungeons, Extremely Radiant AI, Big and Lush Forests... (No one forgot them)
Skyrim "Lies" = Something about economy, Something about inheritances, Something about steps in a mountain. (Almost no one care about them)

Yes people, this gotta be the biggest and worst lie ever said!

The first time I went up it, I started counting the steps. I got to the first bend and thought "Nah, I'll make sure the way ahead is clear of enemies first" and I haven't been bothered since.

That's because you realised it SIMPLY WASN'T IMPORTANT

So many sections of the path are so badly obliterated, worn away, covered in dirt/snow.
Some quite large.

The path itself changes from incline to level so many times, it's not just a straight climb.

Frankly I feel there is no way to accurately count the number of steps originally present.

What method did you use to measure "steps" on obliterated/obscured path sections?

Are all the steps (both those still present and all those now missing) the same size? Are you sure?

Perhaps the number does not refer to the actual stone steps on the path... maybe it refers to the number of steps you the traveller take to reach the summit?
Did you walk in 3rd person and count every step your character took?

Did you check for any actual lore source ingame (books etc) or outside (wikis or w/e) that reference the steps in more detail?
Origin, age, name etc?

Your number may be close, it may even be correct (unlikely) but I question the method used to arrive at that number.

Again, imo there is no accurate way to measure the number of steps orginally present, I also believe the developers intended this when they designed HH.

That and my explanation above, lol

Actually I've gotten an inheritance from someone who was a friend of mine who died in game.

Just imagine if there actually was 7000 steps. Jeesh..... that alone would probably blow your system out due to lag.

No, because I didn't think it was something to react to. But I quoted someone else that questioned why to react, by saying that we are different and find different things important. Sorry but I don't see where what I said caused this explanation from you?



Good point, don't see the relevance to what I said though.



I agree, why I also said:






Ok.


I realized my problem was that I made a general approach in a subjective topic.
As for the lack of 7000 step, I don't care, but I think ppl should be allowed to care without others jumping in telling em it's stupid or childish or "Why do you care? I don't!". But in a sense, I'm jumping in telling them to not care about other caring about stuff they don't care about :ahhh:

And regarding what I wrote about faulty products and whatever coding, again I ment in a general approach. Not only Bethesda does that. Most if not all deliver a product stacked with problems and issues. They can do that cause gamers just wanna have stuff to do.
"We will play your faulty game that has tons of issues and don't live up to promises - And I'll do it while complaining on forums about it - But I'll still buy and play it"

It's not exaggeration, it's manipulation. Parents aren't exaggeration, life is tough for a kid. Tougher than an advlt's in some respects I'd say.

This thread svcks, can a mod close it?

All well & good, but this is after all a topic of conversation about the (lack of) 7000 steps and how it proves actual wrongdoing. My own posts try to inject some actual common sense & perspective




You were manipulated into buying Skyrim because of a promise of 7000 steps? Come on. And that's not me being overly generic with my accusation either, this is a thread specifically about 7000 steps, or their lack of.