I hope as compensation Special and Perks are more powerful than ever before, and you can't get too many of each so you aren't JOAT.

this is the second time ive seen this posted. mind if i ask for a link to see for myself to confirm?

If I were you, I would continue watching their Twitch livestream because they're doing a Q/A session on Fallout 4 shortly. I am positive a fan will bring this question up, as with many other ones.

Edit: It's on right now, as I type this. http://www.twitch.tv/bethesda

^ this

any chance he say how big the map will be? was that asked?

wait, what exactly implied that there were no skills?

I belive that is because not show any tag skill in the beggining.

I didn't see any in the pipboy either.

During the start of the game they didn't show your skills or even mention them when he picked his SPECIAL. If I remember correctly they use to tell you what skill each SPECIAL effected.

thats what i meant i watched the whole thing and am listening the the q/a now but i havent seen anything that hints towards not having skills

Didn't know about that. I turned it off once they got done showing Fallout 4.

For those who don't understand. When he opens the pipboy interface it starts on stats. Usually you can see your SPECIAL, condition, skills, and perks here. But in the video condition, SPECIAL, and perks were all that we saw. However this doesn't confirm that there are no skills. When the player scrolls over to the inventory part of the Pip-boy it only displays weapons, apparel, and aid. Then he scrolls over to apparel which then reveals misc. which was hiding from our sight showing that only three sub categories can be viewed at a time. It is possible skills was hiding from sight as well.

Todd said that he isn't ready to talk about perks yet (he doesn't like to reveal too much too soon). I optimistically guess that he left out discussion of skills for the same reason.

There seem to be three subcategories/tabs in the STAT menu: SPECIAL, Status, and Perks. No sign of skills.

SPECIAL doesn't influence skills. No tags skills. Pipboy doesn't show any skills. Yeah I'm pretty sure they deemed them unimportant and gutted them..

Well...

....they din't show much of the pipboy and it din't say nothing about skills, but that doesn't mean there is no skill. I am still wondering though.

special does influence skills though, your base skill level in the previous games was determined by them. I don't really see how they could remove the skill portion of the game, or what fathomable reason they would consider it. No skills = no leveling and there is hardly a point of having the SPECIAL if there are no skills.

hah people were worried about them getting rid of SPECIAL but they seemingly kept SPECIAL but got rid of skills..like how would that even work (assuming they did get rid of skills)?

They probably replaced skills with perks, and the perks you can get will depend on your SPECIAL.

Yeah the no skills in the game would really change the game a lot.

You're right about that and there was no confirmation about character creation in the reveal trailer. It's possible they assumed people knew they would be there. I think no skills would be a big step back.