There goes my so called "hero" character : Fallout: New Vegas

» Wed May 09, 2012 6:18 pm

So from what I can grasp from reading a lonesome road review is that it is revealed that the Courier basically committed genocide by detonating nuclear bombs in the divide when he was delivering a package? am i getting this right? i really hope I have misunderstood the review...

» Wed May 09, 2012 1:50 pm

After the NCR took Navarro they recovered some tech they didn't fully understand, but they recognized some symbols they saw in the Divide. The Courier was told by the NCR to deliver the package to the Divide. This package turned out to be a detonator that remote detonated the ICBM's left in their silos when it got close enough to transmit.

» Wed May 09, 2012 11:34 am

It was either an accident or your choice. Your RPG character.

» Wed May 09, 2012 9:30 am

Well think of it this way.

You flipped a coin and went with heads, but got tails. Tails set off nuclear war heads slaughtering a many people and damning a many others.

Possibly bad luck? Really is your choice though.

» Wed May 09, 2012 9:58 pm

The end of the DLC is going to really decide if your character is a hero or not.

The events that destroyed the divide are unknown to the courier because he is an idiot and remembers nothing of these events. (I guess he took brain damage after getting shot :rofl:

Although I'm pretty sure ED-E is what set the silos off. :fallout:

» Wed May 09, 2012 8:45 am

Have not yet played Lonesome Road, but perhaps he did his courier job, brought the device from Navarro to Hopeville, got his payment and went on his merry way to the Mojave as he heard a terrible rumble and felt the ground tremble beneath him, then it stopped. "Hm. That was weird" he though to himself, and continued his journey. Months later, he goes back to Hopeville and thinks to himself "Wow, this place sure has changed a lot."

» Wed May 09, 2012 12:34 pm

Have not yet played Lonesome Road, but perhaps he did his courier job, brought the device from Navarro to Hopeville, got his payment and went on his merry way to the Mojave as he heard a terrible rumble and felt the ground tremble beneath him, then it stopped. "Hm. That was weird" he though to himself, and continued his journey. Months later, he goes back to Hopeville and thinks to himself "Wow, this place sure has changed a lot."

The Courier, in game terms has actually never seen Hopeville/the divide/ashton because he doesn't recognize them. Turns out a bunch of missiles can actually completely total a civilization. :banana:

» Wed May 09, 2012 6:53 pm

I'd recommend that the OP plays the DLC before deciding that the Courier is a genocidal maniac.

» Wed May 09, 2012 11:06 am

The Courier didn't commit genocide, not intentionally anyway. He just did his job. It was a delivery, like any other, he didn't know what was in the package, and probably didn't care. He went to the Divide, dropped off his cargo, collected his pay, and went on his merry way, paying the deed no mind. And never once realized what the ramifications of that delivery were.

» Wed May 09, 2012 5:52 am

He was a courier, and he delivered a package. Nothing out of the ordinary there. He probably didn't know what was in the package and he most certainly didn't know that it would destroy the Divide, so for these reasons I wouldn't say the courier was a genocidal maniac.

» Wed May 09, 2012 6:09 am

Lonesome Road was basically the new Broken Steel for New Vegas.

» Wed May 09, 2012 11:26 am

Lonesome Road was basically the new Broken Steel for New Vegas.

Uhhh... not really. Broken Steel extended Fallout 3's main quest, and Lonesome Road did not extend the main quest of New Vegas at all. :confused:

Also, imo, Lonesome Road made sense and was well written, whereas Broken Steel kind of ruined the ending to Fallout 3, and it didn't really make much sense. The only good part was the Hellfire armor and getting to visit an Enclave base.

» Wed May 09, 2012 12:18 pm

Uhhh... not really. Broken Steel extended Fallout 3's main quest, and Lonesome Road did not extend the main quest of New Vegas at all. :confused:

Also, imo, Lonesome Road made sense and was well written, whereas Broken Steel kind of ruined the ending to Fallout 3, and it didn't really make much sense. The only good part was the Hellfire armor and getting to visit an Enclave base.

Yep, what Tycho said :deal:

» Wed May 09, 2012 2:01 pm

I was kind of suprised when Chris said courier six didn't have amnesia or missing memories

» Wed May 09, 2012 8:28 am

I was kind of suprised when Chris said courier six didn't have amnesia or missing memories

You'd think that having two bullets embedded in your brain would cause some sort of mental disability.

» Wed May 09, 2012 5:33 pm

You Courier was told by NCR take "x" package to the now Divide.
You do so because it's your job, you don't need to know what you are carrying.
You drop it off and leave the place, once you're gone it "awakens" the bombs and denotates them, killing everyone nearly.
You didn't commit any genocide, since you never blew up the bombs, the package wasn't yours.

NCR are the bad guys behind this massacre.
Also Genocide definition: "is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group"
So actually no one commited genocide - it was merely an accident on a large scale

» Wed May 09, 2012 8:24 pm

You'd think that having two bullets embedded in your brain would cause some sort of mental disability.

Wasn't this explained in OWB as to why you didn't die or suffer these losses?
I'm sure the Courier suffered STML as s/he didn't know who Benny was or the delivery s/he was making before the abduction. Which resulted in you having to trek the Mojave searching for clues on Benny and the Chip

» Wed May 09, 2012 10:21 am

Lonesome Road was basically Obsidian saying "Yea, know that character of your we said has no 'canon' backstory? We're giving him/her backstory." *Trollface*

I view it as something out of your control really. Uly needed something to blame, and he blamed the package courier that delivered the package that destroyed the Divide. It can be taken in almost any way you want it to.

» Wed May 09, 2012 9:21 am

You'd think that having two bullets embedded in your brain would cause some sort of mental disability.

Its called Death.

» Wed May 09, 2012 10:57 am

Its called Death.

The Courier doesn't seem to be suffering from it.

» Wed May 09, 2012 9:07 am

Its called Death.

Pretty much

Cheers

» Wed May 09, 2012 7:52 am

It has zero impact on your character. They did nothing wrong.

They got a package, took it to the Divide, delivered it, got paid, left. That's it. Doing exactly what a courier is supposed to.
They have nothing to do with what happened after.

It's nothing like genocide, either.
Like someone else said, genocide is killing a whole race, religion,etc.

It's a one settlement. Nothing when compared to the scale of other things in the MW.

» Wed May 09, 2012 12:21 pm

As some unknown yet deeply knowledgeable sage once said- "s*** happens". It was just a cosmic accident, nothing more, nothing less.

» Wed May 09, 2012 5:17 pm

As some unknown yet deeply knowledgeable sage once said- "s*** happens". It was just a cosmic accident, nothing more, nothing less.

Pretty much. "Things just happen, what the hell."

You can always change your characters backstory. My current character is a mercenary working for the Mojave express to track down and retrieve a stolen package.

Same goes for F3, you can 'RP' as a non-vault dweller. just rewrite some of the diologue in your head.

» Wed May 09, 2012 10:22 am

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