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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:23 am

Gordon Freeman is just amazing. He even won best video game character on gamespot :cool:. He's just iconic and has a crowbar, what's not to love?

Didn't he only win once though?
Every game character tournament I've ever seen generally ends with Link and Cloud. Cept that one where [censored] decided they wanted those two midget dinosaur looking things from that puzzle game for N64 to win.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:54 pm

Didn't he only win once though?
Every game character tournament I've ever seen generally ends with Link and Cloud. Cept that one where [censored] decided they wanted those two midget dinosaur looking things from that puzzle game for N64 to win.

Yeah I saw that one. I think that those characters got disqualified and I also believe that's the year Gordon Freeman won.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:44 am

Yeah I saw that one. I think that those characters got disqualified and I also believe that's the year Gordon Freeman won.

Yeah I remember they made it to quarterfinals or something and knocked out Samus Aran and some others, but then they caught on and disqualified them. Poor whatever-their-names-are. :C
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:41 am

Considering that Courier 6 would take an arrow to the knee before he gets close enough...

The Dovahkiin would win.
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:15 pm

Considering that Courier 6 would take an arrow to the knee before he gets close enough...

The Dovahkiin would win.

Two bullets to the brain >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arrow to the knee

Ijs....
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:32 pm

Dovahkiin can't stop time, that's the Champion of Cyrodiil.
The Dovahkiin can slow down time to where enemies move much slower. That's close to stopping time.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:18 am

What happened when the midevil magical person crossed the road?

It tripped over a fat mine.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:59 am

Courier in remnants armor vs dovakhin in deadric?
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:07 am

The Dovahkiin can slow down time to where enemies move much slower. That's close to stopping time.

Ok slowing down and stopping are NOT close to the same thing. Tell you what, go run a red light, but slow down as you do so. When the Police Officer pulls you off and gets onto you for running the red light, say "yeah but I slowed down, that's practically the same thing." Tell me how that works out for you.

Secondly, he only does so to a very minor extent. The Dovahkiin himself is slowed by the effect aswell. Turbo or Implant GRX slow time down to an equal extent BUT the Courier isn't slowed down at all. Whereas Dovahkiin slows time to 10% but he himself is only moving at ~40% speed, the Courier slows his perception of time to 35%, but isn't slowed down himself AT ALL. The Courier himself also runs incredibly fast on his own (10% faster than someone with no armor/light armor; I would hope we can all agree the COURIER has the Travel Light perk. :tongue:). Whereas Dovahkiin can only slow time for 16 seconds once per 60 seconds, Implant GRX alone (without Turbo doses) provides a full 2 minutes, 20 seconds of a slowed perception of time. VATS is another issue entirely, as it seems to guarentee you hit first.
More importantly, to detect an enemy's life force, the Dovahkiin either needs to CONSTANTLY keep a spell up (occupying one hand; no bows allowed if he uses this method) or use a shout, thus occupying his shout slot, since the Courier can just remain stealthed with a Stealth boy.

In the end you've got the Courier at maximum range firing CONSTANT (Rushing Water and Turbo) 600 damage rounds that have a decent chance of knockdown at the Dovahkiin (190 base with explosive rounds, 300 on a crit (guarenteed by sneak), 600 for a headshot, reduced to 20% by the Dovahkiin's armor for 120 damage per shot, 76 for non-crits) able to STILL kite back and dodge at decent speeds and KEEP that speed for longer, keeping the gap between them constant.


We're -literally- talking about a scenario where the Courier could potentially kill the Dovahkiin before he even FINISHES the shout. The Courier has basically slowed the Dovahkiin's shout speed to 35% of it's original, while also multiplying his own firing speed several fold. I believe the Courier's attack speed would see a 250% increase, which is beyond ridiculous. In 2-3 seconds time the Dovahkiin would be hit with a full clip from an AMR, for a total of up to 960 damage in the time it takes the Dovahkiin just to realize he's being hit and complete his shout, IF the explosion doesn't knock him on his ass first. Even if he survives, he's still got only 16 seconds to locate the Courier, run up to him and hit him; hell, would the life detect spell the Dragonborn has even detect a target that far out? This is literally maxed range...
The Courier WILL get the first strike because while the Dovahkiin cannot keep all his abilities up at once (stealth detection, invisibility, slowed time), the Courier can. The Courier can spam stealth boys and Turbo doses for days while his stealth detection is constant. If the Dovahkiin attempts to detect the Courier in stealth, then it's a big message that screams "I can't slow time because I just shouted, I'm incredibly vulnerable right now!" So basically the Dovahkiin is a sitting duck who has to react fast the moment he's hit, slow time, MOVE, and then detect, catch and kill the Courier within 16 seconds time, and it's a big "if" if his life detect spell would even reveal a target that far out from his location.

And this is with an AMR. We're not even talking about Esther yet....

He's screwed.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:43 am

FUS RO-- *Dead*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZXlhSgq7us#t=00m22s
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:33 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZXlhSgq7us#t=00m22s

That vid does a pretty kick ass job of summoning up the workings of the fight. :D
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:53 am

There are too many variables to take into consideration, Courier Six and Dovahkiin are in completely different universes. So, I would rather just compare my Dovahkiin to my Courier.

My (main) Dovahkiin is a Spellsword who uses Heavy Armor and axes. His favored school of magic is destruction and restoration. My (main) Courier is an honest gunslinger who wears Light Armor. He always has a .44 on his hip and a Repeater across his back and is skilled in sneak from his many ventures in the Wasteland. Needless to say, my Courier would have a bullet through ole Dova's teeth before he even suspected danger.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:50 am

I would have to go with Dovahkiin on this one, it takes me about .6 seconds to say "Fus Roh Dah" that would send Courier 6 flying and break all of his limbs. THe only way Courier 6 could win in that scenario is if he A.) had the drop on Dovahkiin or B.) Had the weapon predrawn and precocked and was able to aim and squeeze off a shot in that .6 seconds.

Sorry but the clock don't lie. :/ (This is from a Courier 6 really devoted fan btw).
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:37 am

I would have to go with Dovahkiin on this one, it takes me about .6 seconds to say "Fus Roh Dah" that would send Courier 6 flying and break all of his limbs. THe only way Courier 6 could win in that scenario is if he A.) had the drop on Dovahkiin or B.) Had the weapon predrawn and precocked and was able to aim and squeeze off a shot in that .6 seconds.

Sorry but the clock don't lie. :/ (This is from a Courier 6 really devoted fan btw).
Turbo
/win

And for us non-chem users: Esther
/bitsofdragonbornallovermylawn
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:21 am

Turbo
/win

And for us non-chem users: Esther
/bitsofdragonbornallovermylawn

Ah yes Turbo I forgot that variable. Esther would also mean bitsofcourieralloveryourlawn, unless you used timed but then that defeats the purpose of using Esther in the first place. Anyways there are far too many variables on both sides to be scientific about this--so I shall declare that the true winner is No-Bark because he'd get some mole rat people to back him up.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:38 am

THe only way Courier 6 could win in that scenario is if he A.) had the drop on Dovahkiin

But he would get the drop, guarenteed.
The Courier can detect invisible targets thanks to ED-E's enhanced sensors, while simultaneously cloaking himself with a Stealth boy.

Dovahkiin CANNOT do both. Acting at all breaks his invisibility, so the moment he shouts or casts a spell, he's no longer invisible. The spell must constantly be casted so it's impossible to cast it and remain invisible while seeing the Courier, the shout? The shout he could do and then drink an invisibility potion, the problem being he's SHOUTED and basically broadcasted his move, and the invisibility for him is in and of itself, trivial, since the Courier will see him anyways.

Meanwhile, I could be mistaken, but I think the "detect life" that the Dovahkiin is capable of is limited in range; far more than an AMR is.

That being said, the Dovahkiin basically won't see the Courier coming, the Courier WILL spot Dovahkiin. Rushing Water, Turbo, Steady. He won't miss and he's gonna empty a full clip before the Dovahkiin can even shout.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:56 am

Why are we even having this argument? Chances are the Courier won the battle years before it ever begun without ever intending on starting a fight. Here's a fun fact for ya:' sometime before his adventures in the Mojave, the Courier was spotted in southern Skyrim delivering a package of "Dragons [censored]-Slap of Loooooove!," a special spice that was rumored to be made out of dragon pheromones. Very potent stuff. It was distributed to every meadery in the country in short order. A month later, dragons attack. Coincidence? I think not.

I tell you, that Courier's bad news; guy can't take a piss without causing an entire civilization to crumble.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:28 am


Even funnier, a argument in favor of Dovaperm is that he can call a dragon to his aid.
If he can call a dragon then Courier can call Graham.
i just pissed myself...god have mercy for that dragon... graham wont
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:31 am

V.A.T.S + battle rifle = that dovakin will not have an open casket funeral :sad:
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:54 am

They said that the Courier couldnt use VATS which is ridiculous
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:06 am

dovakin can use a shouts,spells,enchanted weapons etc but V.A.T.S is not allowed for the courier?
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:03 am

The courier could probably use the Hunter perk which gives 75% critical damage against animals and mutated animals and a human with the soul of a dragon definitely sounds like a mutated animal.

Overall Courier 6 perks armour and ranged weapons are superior to anything
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:18 pm

Lol. The Courier could take on the Dovahkiin and all of Windhelm simply by causing a chain reaction of "Meltdown!".
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Post » Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:19 pm

↑ but really I would foresee a draw. Then a partnership. THEN THE MOST EPIC VIDEO GAME EVER! lol

Don't give the DEVS any ideas please..... all of a sudden we're gonna get a crossover game with time rifts. It'll be like Beastmaster 2. If you've never seen it, don't bother, it's terrible.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:15 am

Don't give the DEVS any ideas please..... all of a sudden we're gonna get a crossover game with time rifts. It'll be like Beastmaster 2. If you've never seen it, don't bother, it's terrible.

I wouldn't be surprised if Bethesda revealed that the Fallout and Elder Scrolls universes were one and the same, some how.
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