I've already found 3D Printing plans for making your own on the net. Already downloaded as I am treating myself to a 3D printer for Christmas. I won't post the link but you can google it. My Survival Edition items are in a custom case with hammered and "distressed" aluminum overlay painted and stained to match the pipboy. I paid more for the display case than I did for the game LOL. Once I get my camera back I will take a pic and post it. Lent it to a friend for his trip to Ireland. Visiting Ireland at this time of year ... crazy. I have an old school flip phone with no camera so I'm a cell phone luddite.

Looking forward to seeing the pipboy display. the 3d printing sounds like a fun hobby thing, printing it building it, most of us are just lazy and buy it, haha. But making it sounds fun from a hobby point of view.

Wish they would at least offer a Blu Ray version to buy for PC...it's sad that no gaming company offers PC Blu Ray games when the software and the ability to do so has been out there for 'awhile'. Companies are not using them I feel because its easier (development-wise) / cheaper to offer download versions...

Might be because not everyone has optical drives so its biased against people who use modern computers that have no optical drives? Best solution might be using the alternative media in the future but companies might not be allowed to use USB ports to put the games on flash drives, hasnt been done yet possibly because its illegal or a violation of Microsoft policy to utilize a game distribution in that manner using a USB port without consent from Microsoft since their trying to make alot of the functionality of computers limited to Windows 10 so people have a better user experience.

Yeah Eaglewolf, they probably did but not back in june..

Where there is a will there is a way. Meaning, I doubt there are any 'real' legal ramifications for having the games' download data in another format, and the only reason this hasn't changed is because there's not enough voices offering different opinions. Look how fast we went from using CDs to DVDs and compare that to the transition from DvDs to Blu-Rays. The main difference is the ability to download greater amounts of data from the internet.

if your computer has no optical drive then you would obviously buy the digital and not physical.

i would expect anyone who pays money for a disc would make sure they are capable of using it.

apologies if any of my comments offend but i am just killing time waiting for my download to finish so i can play the game that i purchased (i thought)..

downloads which started over 24 hours ago i might add, not very fast internet here..

PC kind of skipped bluray altogether. Few buy a bluray drive for the PC. They had a DVD drive, and now they go DVD or digital. (I would have no drive but I keep a crappy old DVD reader around just in case)

I do see the big difference!

I mean, even with Steam and all, how would any measure taken prohibit piracy? Whatever form a game or movie comes as, how would it ever prevent a cunning person to hack it? Maybe next game will come with a security force constantly standing beside us to make sure we don′t do anything we aren′t supposed to?

I have one, they're relatively cheap, and read DVD and CD as well.

*For those that want cheaper, there are BD_ROM drives that merely read Blu-Ray discs, but not write; and even those usually write CD/DVDs.

Ahhhhhhh just thought of the answer to this question! It would be illegal to put the whole game on disc so that is why, plain and simple.

If they put the game on a disc and people bought the game it would mean they own the game which is illegal in most free countries since it removes the rights of the corporation to revoke the game at any time. See people dont "buy" PC games anymore because its illegal like piracy, they get a license which is the steam code. This is the only way to protect the consumer from fraudulent copies to verify if a game is legal and allowed to be played. Many times companies have pulled licenses because the game was bad or maybe re released, if the company didnt revoke all the past licenses noone would buy the new game which wouldnt be fair to the company since companies in America have the same rights as people. Also if someone owned the game, they might try to resell it when done playing it which is also illegal since its considered theft today under modern consumer protection laws. By not having the game in the physical box the consumer is protected from the possibility of owning a version of the game that is not legal to play.

If Bethesda had encrypted their master disc(s) with 256 bit AES (or 512, or 1024... or....), and sent it off to be pressed; it's random noise on the disc. Todd Howard could have kept the only decryption key in his wallet, until release day, and then upload it the day of release for all the DVD installers to pull from Steam. (Hyperbole ~sure, but not implausible... That could have done the job.) It must have been another reason instead.

diablo 3 managed to beat piracy by making the game dependant on data received from the server. There were some attempts at pirate servers being set up but nothing long term succeeded..

needing an internet connection to play even single player is the height of rudeness. It assumes everyone has a good steady and reasonably fast connection, which is often not the case.

the specs don't mention the required specs of the internet connection, they just state one is required.. more false or misleading communication

After reading threads like this, I'm glad that I haven't bought Fallout 4 yet. I guess I will wait if I get it at all...

So the majority of the game's weight is made up of textures?

Well, its obvious that the pirates can just make a smaller version of all those texture files, thus making the pirated version more user-friendly. Way to go Bethesda.

Fallout 4 seems too inconvenient.

this also means diablo 3 is only playable as long as blizzard maintain the server to run it..

interesting to see if i can still play in 15 years or so when i feel nostalgic..

Most Eulas outline the dubious concept that the consumer has bought (and owns) a piece of plastic... In the same sense that owning a Spiderman Hoodie does not afford one ownership of Spiderman. Games have been sold [complete] on optical discs for decades.

Games were sold whole in the old days before consumer protection laws existed to protect the customer from buying an illegal copy or an unauthorized copy of a game. Buying a full game today that is on a disc may be illegal in most countries where consumers are protected, better to buy a partial game than take the risk of going to jail for buying an illegal product. Corporations in America have the same rights as people which is why they are given more rights than the average citizen because we protect the consumer through better standards and practices which become laws.

Imagine if a game was made that contained offensive content today like Postal or Hatred? People would protest to have the game banned and revoked like little red riding hood was because she carried wine in her basket. Imagine if noone could revoke the game license because people owned the whole game it would be unfair to people who are offended that others would be allowed to play the game. This is why licenses make it easier to just revoke ownership so people dont end up targeted or owning a game that may not be legal to posses.

sorry for the off topic posts ranting about diablo 3 but it had similar issues when it was released. (Thought relevant)

i bought the discs and had to wait for a several gigabyte download to play it (fortunately only a couple of gigs not 24)..

Every other game i purchased worked from the disc fully with the options to download patches etc at my leisure, admittedly some patched were more urgent than others

What.

...

No, seriously. What.

You're going to have to cite some legislation or court rulings that say that the owners of an IP don't have the legal right to put the full version of their work on a disc. You'll also have to show why that would be the case for a video game, but not a movie or a music album, considering when I bought the Diamond Edition of Aladdin on Blu-Ray last month, I didn't have to download anything to watch it. It al came on the disc. I would also like to see a citation about how reselling a game (which happens ALL THE TIME) is defined as theft under modern consumer protection laws. Look up things like the "First Sale Doctrine" and Kirtsaeng v John Wiley & Sons. Once you by physical media, the owner of the IP has no claim to that physical media anymore. You can keep it, sell it, burn it, or eat it, and they can do jack about it.

Also, the notion that Bethesda is requiring people to download so much of the game for their "protection" is absolutely adorable in how optimistic it is.

" unfair to people who are offended that others would be allowed to play the game."

i dont know how to quote a previous post so i just copy and paste.. (old school)

this statement sounds like political correctness gone mad..

people who may be offended that someone is allowed to play the game.... You have to be joking..

Sorry to be vulgar, but, should every catholic be offended that non catholics are able to mastvrbate..

Couldn't agree more. I put a blu-ray drive in my build four years ago because it was becoming the de-facto standard for physical media. For some reason there is a huge amount of PC gamers out there that are unwilling to spend the small amount it costs to upgrade their disc drives and show support for the new format and then complain about the fact DVD's can't store new games. As far as I'm concerned if you can afford a gaming rig, you can afford a blu-ray drive. I really wish just one big publisher would bite the bullet and release a physical blu-ray copy and force these people into upgrading their drives so they don't ruin physical releases for everyone else (aka, the people without access to unlimited broadband).

Alot of modern gaming rigs dont have optical drives and no way to install them??? Is why I suggested the alternative media solution of using flash drives since all machines even consoles have USB ports? A flash drive is much cheaper than buying a whole optical drive or somehow finding a computer to buy to install a game maybe too?

And I couldn′t agree more to this

I haven′t needed to get a blu-ray for my puter but I′d do it if I needed to.

Stop right there. Every company is free to voluntarily give up this right. DRM and always-online aren't required by law. Some companies sell their games DRM-free and have no way of revoking sold copies. Moreover, courts in your "free countries" would have a hard time accepting the reality you presented if it came to a lawsuit against companies actually starting to revoke licences left and right for no reason.

None of it matters in this case because Fallout 4 is a Steam game. Access is always controlled by Valve. Bethesda could put all files on disks and have us download only the executable, like they did previously.

As I sidenote, I scoff at the idea of having a stick shoved in my eye "for my own protection." This situation only hurts legitimage customers, you have to be willfully ignorant not to see it.