Hi guys,

i modded my oblivion using FCOM istructions and i also added some other mods. I will post my load list in few hours (as soon as i will be at home).

My problem is related to the action of steal items. As soon as i steal something (for example in the mage guild of bruma) a message appear and told me that i've stolen from a thieves guild member and bla bla bla ...

I tried steal in other place and i've to say that it does not always happen.
Do you have any suggestions ??



My load order :

Oblivion.esmAll Natural Base.esmFrancesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esmFrancesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esmCobl Main.esmOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmFCOM_Convergence.esmBetter Cities Resources.esmProgress.esmCLS-Craftybits.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espBetter Cities .espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Leveled Guards.espFCOM_Francescos.espFCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.espFCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.espAll Natural - Real Lights.espAll Natural.espAll Natural - SI.espAll Natural - EW + NW + AWS.espWindowLightingSystem.espRAEVWD Cities.espRAEVWD New Sheoth.espRAEVWD Imperial City.espEnhanced Economy.espMap Marker Overhaul.espMap Marker Overhaul - SI additions.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCOrrery.espDLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.espDLCVileLair.espDLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.espExnemRuneskulls.espFCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.espCobl Glue.espCobl Si.espOOO 1.32-Cobl.espFCOM_Cobl.espBob's Armory Oblivion.espFCOM_BobsArmory.espLoth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.espFCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.espOblivion WarCry EV.espFCOM_WarCry.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espFCOM_Convergence.espFCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.espFCOM_RealSwords.espFCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.espMart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.espFCOM_LessRats.espFCOM_NoReaversInGates.espFCOM_NoAdventurersInGates.espMart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.espMart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.espFCOM_Archery.espMart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.espMMM-Cobl.espDLCFrostcrag.espDLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.espKnights.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espFCOM_Knights.espxulStendarrValley.espxulTheHeath.espXulEntiusGorge.espxulFallenleafEverglade.espxulColovianHighlands_EV.espxulChorrolHinterland.espxulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.espxulBravilBarrowfields.espxulLushWoodlands.espxulAncientYews.espxulAncientRedwoods.espxulCloudtopMountains.espxulArriusCreek.espxulPatch_AY_AC.espxulRollingHills_EV.espxulPantherRiver.espxulRiverEthe.espxulBrenaRiverRavine.espxulImperialIsle.espxulBlackwoodForest.espxulCheydinhalFalls.espxulAspenWood.espBag of Holding.espToggleable Quantity Prompt.espCLS-Craftybits.espAlternative Start by Robert Evrae.espSupremeMagicka.espSM_ShiveringIsles.espSM_OOO.espSM_MMM.espSM_COBL.espMidasSpells.espRenGuardOverhaul.espRenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.espSM_DeadlyReflex.espDuke Patricks - Near Miss Magic And Arrows Alert The Target.espDuke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.espnGCD.espProgressGSD.espProgressSBSP.espProgressRBSP.espProgressRacial.espProgressArmorer.espCobl Races.espBetter Cities Full.espBCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.espBCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.espBCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.espBetter Imperial City.espBetter Cities - COBL.espDuke Patricks - Combat Archery.espBashed Patch, 0.espFormID Finder4.espDeadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.espDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

Could you be more specific, where does it happen, when does it happen, to who does it happen?

So is your problem that you're stealing from a Mages Guild, but getting a message that you've stolen from a Thieves Guild? Can't say I've encountered that one, before.

I've done more investigation. It always happen when i steal something in a shop. Any shop. After few seconds appear a popup about the thieves guild quest that tell me that i've stolen from a thieves guild member .. I need help

UPDATE :
Not also when i steal from shops but also when i steal from png houses :/

Please help me discover what's the problem. thx

Ok. After lot of try i was able to fix this problem that is related to this mod : Reneers Guard Overhaul. After i removed it from from my load list i didn't have this issue anymore.
I m not saying that Guard OverHaul is bugged but maybe it just conflict with one of my other mods .

It's not a bug, I think. You should be able to turn off the messages spam from the ini file or the in-game item (a ring, I think).

It's not RGO. Unless, of course, you aren't running the latest version (which is RGO 2.05) - then anything is possible. I've never encountered that bug, nor has anyone else ever reported a bug like the one you are describing. After a quick in-game test I don't receive any notifications like the one you are describing (and my character is a member of the Thieves Guild).