Things people might have missed *SPOILERS*

Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:28 am

I actually paid attention to the game and after seeing some posts on here, I think I'll make a post on what I gathered.

The nanosuit 2 is not simply an augmentation suit like nanosuit 1. It has two main layers and contains synthetic nanoweave material that can interact with organic compounds under the outer shell (i.e. the deep layer). My own theory on why it looks bulkier than nanosuit 1 is due to this second layer. This deep layer performs processing of viral DNA as well as the DNA of the wearer, as opposed to nanosuit 1's ability to access bodily functions but has no processing capacity. To allow for this processing, a massively powerful onboard computer is present and loaded with an AI that monitors and controls the whole suit's functions. Due to the "symbiotic" relationship (as the suit has full access to the wearer's body) the AI appears to mimic the personality of the wearer over time.
Such processing is the storyline's key point of why the suit is so important. Its capability to process alien tissue has been engineered by Hargreave for over 100 years; no one else has comparable knowledge (maybe except for his friend Karl). As such, the suit plays a key role in fabricating a counter-virus to the alien's viral spores.

Interesting note: some people seemed to think that Helena Rosenthal invented a "cure" in Crysis 1. That is not the case. What she found out was the frequency the alien's exosuits used to communicate and used that same frequency to upload a computer virus (not biological!) to shut down the exosuits. How she figured out the alien's computing technology I'll never know (it most likely wouldn't be digital!). Engineering such a virus also requires knowledge of the code of the target system... It's impossible for anyone to come up with that from the time Nomad got on board the carrier to the time the virus was put to use. It's just a game, right?

At the start of Crysis 2 CELL personnel were shooting you because they thought you were Prophet. As you know, Prophet was infected and by moving around he was spreading the virus. CELL's job was to contain the infection and thus Prophet. Prophet did not cooperate after Hargreave's deception and worked with Gould instead to come up with a cure. Honestly, I don't think a person like Gould would be able to come up with a cure to this even if he had a 100 years more.

Normally Alcatraz would have died but the nanosuit 2's symbiotic capability was what sustained him; it grew into his wounds and supported his body. This was the reason why when he was captured they could not simply remove the suit; they had to bring him to a skinning lab. Prophet was not in such condition when he put on the suit thus the suit did not grow into him, allowing him to remove it at will. Alcatraz was royally screwed huh :p

Wearers of the nanosuit 1 would have died if they got exposed to the viral spores. Nanosuit 2's deep layer processing ability was what saved Alcatraz. The very first time Alcatraz got exposed he 'died' but the suit isolated the virus from his body (quoting the suit "corrosive agents isolated") then revived him with a defibrillator (press space to shock the heart!). On a side note, Prophet actually discovered the main spore disperal tower under Central Park before the game started; he knew what was up but he didn't have the cure with him at the time and was why he was so desperate that he worked with a fool like Gould. The spores were not released yet though, so the suit never experienced the spores before. After Alcatraz's first encounter with it, the suit was immune to the spores from that point forward.

Tara Strickland was a pretty amazing woman. 3 years before the game started (when her father died) she went into a 'depression' and started drinking heavily and took drugs. She got a dishonourable discharge from the Navy SEAL. It was revealed in-game that she is actually a CIA agent. My theory is this: she was recruited into the CIA 3 years ago from the Navy SEAL (she was apparently the best). In order to keep this secret she purposefully staged her dishonourable discharge and after that recovered from all the drugs and alcohol. Another cool CIA stuff.

Fast forward to the revelation of Hargreave's popsicle state, he mentioned that his colleague Karl Earnst Rasch (not sure on spelling) did not follow in his path of 'immortality' and Hargreave assumed Karl was long dead. However, by the end of the game after Alcatraz climbed up a pile of rubble there was an incoming transmission. You all remembered that one didn't you? The one where Alcatraz said "They call me... Prophet". Well before that line the person said "Karl Earnst Rasch, at your service. And you are?". Am I the only one surprised by that line?

Happy gaming.

tl;dr? Don't bother commenting please.
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Richus Dude
 
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:06 pm

Good post, good theory, good Story :D keep thinking
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Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 5:52 am

Thanks :D
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:53 pm

Why am I not getting flamed?
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:38 pm

So that doesn't mean Nomad & Psycho are dead?
Your post is very logical! Thank you for that.
I've got hopes for Crysis 3 to play Nomad/Psycho again :D
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:36 pm

Thanks =] I sure hope Nomad and Psycho survived some how. Those guys are the best. I was so pumped to play Nomad in this game but sadly I got to play a walking corpse instead.
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:56 pm

Nice read, thanks!
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:06 pm

Logical. Interesting. Awesome.

You wrote, that the AI could imitate the wearers personality. Could it be, that Alcatraz died in the end and the AI took control over the body and calls himself Prophet?
Truth to be told, I like Alcatraz more than Prophet. And I like Nomad more than Alcatraz. ^^

And you are right, Gould probably would never have been able to find a solution.
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Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:56 am

Man, you almost got me interested in playing the singleplayer! 0.o
Thank you! Very nice post!
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:14 pm

and you know this from???
You work at Crytek?

Stupid theories to compensate for stupid plotholes are.. well... stupid...

anyhow

/thread kthnxbai
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:29 pm

aleluia someone who understands that karl rasch should be dead!!!
how the hell did he survived ?did he ignore his thoughts about messing with alien tech and made a nanosuit 2 to live for 100 years,or did he make a cryogenic thing like hargreave?i wanna know!!!!!

and by the way if u look with visor and scan a item in the level masks off ,when u are talking to hargreave u will notice that says something like pictured hargreave,karl rasch,gould and andreas jensen i think....and if u look behind and up in the wall there is a picture of those 4 people with a blue alien behind them!!!!
so gould is of the same generation of hargreave?How the hell is he alive?and well conservated??????AND WALKING??????

And Who the hell is andreas jensen?????

OMG SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:29 pm

and you know this from???
You work at Crytek?

Stupid theories to compensate for stupid plotholes are.. well... stupid...

anyhow

/thread kthnxbai

Your post is stupid.
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:03 pm

I'd just like to point out that Prophet could not remove the Nano-suit at will, he had to commit suicide to break the symbiotic bond. This occurs after he's already dressed Alcatraz in the Nano-suit, so presumably the Prophet/Nano-suit bond broke when Prophet dropped dead, and the Alcatraz/Nano-suit bond kicked in at that exact point, which is why we wake up at the beginning of the game standing over Prophet's corpse. But I don't think that contradicts any of your theories.

p.s. - Tara Strickland busting in to save Alcatraz at the last minute, shouting "IT'S OKAY I'M CIA" as she guns down the Cell guards and beats the doctor unconscious was the stupidest scene in that whole game. Oh, you're CIA are you? How freakin' convenient! Good thing you just happened to show up at exactly the right moment! And good thing Hargreave, who is practically omniscient throughout the entire game, completely fails to notice that you aren't on his side! ._.
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:41 pm

"And what is with the German (Although it just sounds like bad English voice acting) dude at the end? He's supposed to be dead, and if he isn't then how the **** doesn't Hargrieve know about him?!"


That's why I said it was surprising. If we all knew how he survived it wouldn't be surprising would it?
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Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:10 am

"And what is with the German (Although it just sounds like bad English voice acting) dude at the end? He's supposed to be dead, and if he isn't then how the **** doesn't Hargrieve know about him?!"


That's why I said it was surprising. If we all knew how he survived it wouldn't be surprising would it?

Read Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan. Crysis 2's storyline is NOT original, it's basically a copy and paste of characters from Altered Carbon.

Laurens Bancroft - Jacob Hargreave
Takeshi Kovacs - Karl Earnst Rasch
Lieutenant forgot-her-name - Lieutenant / Special Adviser Tara Strickland
Catholics - Commander Lockhart

Seriously, after reading Altered Carbon, I have no respect for Crysis 2's storyline. Richard Morgan didn't devise a great storyline, HE COPIED HIS OLD WORK OVER. This isn't a NEW story, it's the same one I paid $8 on Amazon for.

Except this one cost me $69.99, and has a storyline that isn't coherent with Crysis 1 because GUESS WHAT RICHARD MORGAN? COPY PASTING AN OLD STORY INTO A DIFFERENT STORY ARC DOESN'T WORK. Gee, go figure! REALLY?
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:40 pm

Wait 1 problem..
You go on about the 2 layered suit, but when prophet gives you the outter layer, he's still wearing the inner layer?
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:19 pm

Uh nope. Prophet's probably just wearing something unrelated to the suit, like an underlayer or something.
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:56 pm

Uh nope. Prophet's probably just wearing something unrelated to the suit, like an underlayer or something.

Oh I thought that was the deep layer he was talking about ^_^
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:40 pm

I got most of the plot points you say, but the game is trying to be a sequel when it should have bee called Crysis: console spin off.
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:40 pm

I think the story is not bad, even if it is not related to the first part... And, to be honest, I noticed all this things from the first post already while I was playing the SP... This shows that most of you don't play the game...
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Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:04 am

I think the story is not bad, even if it is not related to the first part... And, to be honest, I noticed all this things from the first post already while I was playing the SP... This shows that most of you don't play the game...

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the story line is pretty poor and all over the place. things just keep happening out of nowhere and ur just like um ok.
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:21 pm

Luckily, that's a matter of opinion... In Crysis 1 things were also just happening... That's life! There is not always someone telling you why things happen...
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Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:20 am

wow awesome copy and paste job and it does not even cover the plotholes. A virus is a virus no matter what form it comes with you disable the alien tech you pretty much kill these alien zro g creatures as you could essentially disable their zero g field. Plus what happened to galaxy M33 beacon calling to outerspce. Reason why nanosuit 2 is buffed is because it was in a sense realistically imposible for someone of that muscular build to fit into essentially a titanium exsoskeletal suit that looked tighter then a wetsuit, unless it was like a tardis inside, seriously that suit looked too small too fit a human. So it was like a realism thing.
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Post » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:49 pm

wow awesome copy and paste job and it does not even cover the plotholes. A virus is a virus no matter what form it comes with you disable the alien tech you pretty much kill these alien zro g creatures as you could essentially disable their zero g field. Plus what happened to galaxy M33 beacon calling to outerspce. Reason why nanosuit 2 is buffed is because it was in a sense realistically imposible for someone of that muscular build to fit into essentially a titanium exsoskeletal suit that looked tighter then a wetsuit, unless it was like a tardis inside, seriously that suit looked too small too fit a human. So it was like a realism thing.


Finally, a flame post. I was starting to worry I posted on the wrong board. Copy and paste job? All my posts were written off my own head. Just because you are incapable of something doesn't mean others are too. The intention of the post was never about covering plot holes. I was sharing what I got from playing the single player campaign.

"A virus is a virus no matter what form it comes with..."

Derp. An orange is an orange no matter what shape you cut it. I was talking about the difference between biological virus (living cells) and computer virus (a string of 0s and 1s). I get the feeling you still can't tell the difference even when I break it down to this level.
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Post » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:17 am

Luckily, that's a matter of opinion... In Crysis 1 things were also just happening... That's life! There is not always someone telling you why things happen...

But they either made sense or were awesome.
I remember the awesomeness of Prohpet's return. I: "OH SHI*", Prophet: "BLAMBLAMBLAM", I:"WOOHOO!"
Or... "Lalala... Uh... a... freezed boat? OMIGOD IT'S GOT JESTER!"

Comparison - Crysis 2:
"Take the needle!" whatnow?why? youjustwantedtokillmeandnowwanttocommitsuicideyouhaveabraindisfunctionmr...
"I am CIA!" And you couldn't possibly have said that earlier? You know, before they strapped me to the damn table? After all you STILL send me to talk to that halfdead guy who is fully aware that I am not his friend anymore...

I think we should make a petition that prevent's Morgan from writing any further stories for the Crysis universe...
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