The reason i am saying this is because i travelled the whole wasteland and there was some references to "The Chosen One" and when i was playing Lonesome Road, Ulysses says that "The Courier" has been West, then he said "You've been to Vault City, Klamath, Reno, Big Circle." Which in fact are the places that "The Chosen One" has been also. Next was the year this game was set. 2281. 40 years after Fallout 2. And in the history of Fallout."The Chosen One" was suggested to be 20 yrs old. Maybe... Because no one knows about what happened to "The Chosen One", let's suggest in 2261 he met a girl, married and knocked her up. And because 20 yrs old is the base age on Fallout 1 n 2, and the Creative Director of Fallout NV was Chris Avellone, who was with BIS when Fallout 2 was made, kept the base age to 20 yrs old. "The Courier" was born in 2261, His story speculated when he was 20 yrs old. They had to make it in 2281. And that would make "The Chosen One" 60 yrs old. And "The Courier"'s dad "The Chosen One" left when he was young, "The Courier" turned 20 yrs old, Got a job as a Courier, that would give him an excuse to leave and search for "The Chosen One". Went to where his dad had been and tracked him to the Mojave! But then gave up the search. And you can suggest that (if you bought the Classic Pack) the Vault 13 Jumpsuit is passed down from father to son. And took it with him.

Evidence actually speaks AGAINST this. The Chosen One does indeed have a son, but it's implied that son is now the leader of the Shark Club in Reno.
If there's any implication of a past for the Courier, it's that he could be a pure strain human somehow. He's implied to have a certain fixation with the symbols on the Divide package (Enclave) but it never gets more detailed than that.

Sure, if you want to, he can be the son of the Chosen One. That's the beauty of having such a vague background - you can roleplay whatever you want to! That would mean you are the half-sibling of a crime lord in New Reno?

Just pointing out some of your logic though, just because you've visited cities that the Chosen One also visited 40 years ago doesn't really make a strong argument for them to be related ;P I bet loads of people have visited the same cities, most likely traders and couriers like yourself.

Anyways, if you want to, it can be uncanonically true. Just like these people that roleplay the Courier is the same person as the Lone Wanderer.

Actually, I don't recall him saying you've visited certain cities. He mentions you've travelled the West, but I don't recall him naming specific towns.

No he is not.

It has actually been comfirmed in an interview that the Courier isn't a decedant of the Vault Dweller's bloodline like the Chosen One is.

You can still role play it though.

He does, actually. He names the Hub, the Big Circle (presumably the cities within the Big Circle) and other cities I can't remember. I think he also mentions Vault City, but I'm not certain.

Huh. Must be a dialogue line I don't pick.

(Just a side note, your House quote is somewhat off, it's 'We don't have to dream we're important, we are.' )

I also don't recall Ulysses saying Vault City. I would have loved for the Courier to have been the descendant of the Chosen One and therefore a descendant of the Vault Dweller, but there is nothing officially saying that he is. There is alot of room for you to role play that he is a descendant.

The Vault 13 cantine and suit don't mean anything because it isn't offcially apart of the game, it is an extra that was given out with pre-orders and later came with the Couriers Stash DLC. Its there for Role Playing reason. Naturally there would be people that want to play as the Chosen One's kid.

There are mentions of the Chosen One in New Vegas to give references to Fallout 2. Just like how in Fallout 2 there is a big statue of the Vault Dweller in NCR (Shady Sands). The Chosen One became a legend just like is Grandfather the Vault Dweller.

We do know what the Chosen One did after Fallout 2. He went out and founded New Arroyo. The kid he fathered in Fallout 2 ends up running the Shark Club in Reno. But it is interesting because in the ending slides it tells us that he wanderes the wasteland as well, but in the game it says he is still in Reno. Its possible he had more than one kid but still there is nothing officially making the connection between the two.

If Sabor13 is right there is official info saying it isn't the case, still shouldn't stop you from Role Playing it. Doesn't stop me

Indeed. There's a limited number of major cities in the west and in the world as a whole. Chances are that well-traveled individuals would have visited the same ones.

Old sport are we really continuing the discussion . I really don't know why some people posted four paragraphs of answers.

Easy to rp it: The Chosen One could have visited various prosttutes, "donate" dna to Vault City, then the New Reno thingie,theres also Broken Hills but since super mutants are sterile Broken Hills encouter is impossible to this end, that one woman in Modoc(shotgun wedding and all) aandd thats all I can come up right now.

Bruce Isaac mentions that "Mr. Bishop knows the wastes like the back of his hand," implying that Mr. Bishop (Chosen's son) did indeed travel a lot before settling down there.

Personally I don't see any reason to believe the Courier is related to the Vault Dweller or the Chosen One, and I'm glad that's the case. Let the Courier build his own legacy; don't connect him to someone else's legacy in an attempt to hold onto a story long gone, let the Courier make his own story.

In-game content only really seems to imply the Courier has a habit of wandering and never really gets tied down or has a true home, doesn't seem to even know where he's from and had some odd fixation or interest in the Enclave markings. As I said, if any conclusion could be drawn from that, to me, it's that the Courier may somehow be pure strain human, though he himself may not even realize it.

Why might it not be the original Bishop? We never get his age and he might be in his 80s. Does it not make more sense for the middle-aged singer to have slept with one of the original Bishop's then equally aged daughters?

From the wiki:


Since when is it a rule that middle-aged men only show interest in other middle-aged women? Never heard of that.
Nah, I sincerely doubt the writers would make such a coincidential connection to one of the endings of FO2 unless they meant to say "hey this ending is canon." You're implying they knowingly added details to New Vegas that HEAVILY imply a specific ending for the Bishop family, and yet they meant something completely different. Very unlikely.

Exactly. Although your pure strain comment is something I can't comment on. Never got the time to finish LR. Mostly because I got an interesting RP idea for a new playthrough and leapt on it.


End of the day all that's written for the Courier is involvement in NCR territory whether lounging in New Reno or a delivery gone wrong.

Other than 2 honestly 1, 3, and NV have left fairly blank slates if your playing solely as the courier with very little pre-written story. In NV other than being from the West and events from LR, getting shot in the head, etc. Even your birthplace is left up to you.

With the Chosen One's child being a Bishop and the vagueness left in the Courier's background it's no way that could be canon.


Now could YOU RP as your Chosen One's son? Go for it. But it wouldn't be canon.


I do find it strange however that in every continuing franchise people like to link past characters to new characters.

Sometimes ridiculous and a waste of time

I.E. Prison in the Arena is the prisoner in TES IV. Champion of Cyrodiil is actually Dovahkiin, Adam Jensen is technically the father of...oh wait. Heh. Nvm.

Moving on.

I think you'll all find that the Courier is Joe from the Capital Wasteland.

Do you mean http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Joe_Palmer or http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Joe_Porter?

I did that.

Come to think of it, I -THINK- the devs even made an official statement claiming the Courier isn't related to any former protagonists. Could be wrong though.