I have no idea what a fluffer is.

Ah, I meant to include this in my previous post (excluding, saliva, urin, crap, stomach acid, puke, snot)
But then I had to say other fluids that could come out of a human body and I ain't sure I'm allowed to be that graphic here so that's why I excluded the excluded part.

Lets see...how to phrase this...

Think of them as the "maintenance crew" for such a film. They "maintain" the star of the film. The real star of the film I mean.

... They wash them out with a hose?

You can quote the same thing from that Wiki page as many times as you want. Since your point was that vampires don't exist in the game, all you need to do is a quick look at dictionary.com and see you don't even know the definition of "vampire".

vam·pire? ?/?v?mpa??r/ Show Spelled[vam-pahyuhr] Show IPA
–noun
1. a preternatural being, commonly believed to be a reanimated corpse, that is said to svck the blood of sleeping persons at night.
2. (in Eastern European folklore) a corpse, animated by an undeparted soul or demon, that periodically leaves the grave and disturbs the living, until it is exhumed and impaled or burned.
3. a person who preys ruthlessly upon others; extortionist.
4. a woman who unscrupulously exploits, ruins, or degrades the men she seduces.
5. an actress noted for her roles as an unscrupulous seductress: the vampires of the silent movies.

I find the ghost idea ridiculous, personally my favorite 'ghosts' where the storys buildings in Fallout 3 told, take Fort Constantine, where the bed was labeled owned and the coffee cup was stealable. Glitch? Maybe. But I like to view it as the memory of the commander being very much alive and felt there. Or the home in Georgetown, THOSE were creepy because if you have any sense of depth, you sort of feel a sense of loss when you put emotion into the things you see in the Fallout games.

You're really digging deep now. If that was the definition you were referring to then yes, there are vampires.

However you clearly didn't mean that definition. You were talking about mythological creatures, classic Hollywood horror.

You clearly meant the classical vampire...the primary definition, not the third definition down. You do yourself a disservice pretending otherwise.


Edit: What was the deal with Georgetown? Don't really remember it that well.

Your definition of classical vampire as in turn into a bat and die by a stake? There are many, many forms of vampires. So before you start resorting to making comments on the poster and not the post topic itself in an attempt to hide something, it's something to keep in mind.

I do agree with you. Ghosts do fit the Fallout Universe. The Ghost in the Den was apart of the main game. There is a quest involved. Other NPC know about it. There was to be another ghost in Sulik's Village that was cut from the game. Fallout two's intro has "Humanity was almost extinguished. Their spirits becoming part of the back ground radiation that blanketed the earth." It could very well be word play but to me it adds a nice creepy element to the game.

The best compromise to make people happy would just to learn of them from tribals and Easter Eggs but not to see them. Not everyone is as open minded about Ghosts in Fallout as I am. To me they are more apart of Fallout then Aliens.

I wouldn't mind a ghost or two I suppose as long as they were handled intelligently. Either as poltergeists or at least as something you cannot kill/steal from/that kind of thing.

Georgetown had a townhouse vaguely inspired by L.Ron Hubbard. I can't recall the name of it, but it's inspired by the short story of a house fully automated anf functioning, though the family has died in a war. And there is a Mr. Handy and when activated at its terminal, one of it's options is to recite the poem 'There will come soft rain' to the child, and the child is nothing but a skeleton clutching a teddy bear in its bed. It's just touching in a somber way really.

@OP- Dude, give it a rest, who cares what the definition of it is. They drank blood, they dont eat people. End of story, drop it.

Well the problem is, too many people are like "I don't like it so it's not canon. Make canon only the things I like. Call everything else an Easter Egg." It's like boo hoo, if it's in the game, it's in the game. Does it matter what's canon? Won't ruin your gameplay the slightest.

Blood is a fluid that comes out of our body, why should it not be on you're list? Everything I can find on Cannabilism is the eating of flesh of you're own kind.

There will come soft rain....god I love that poem. Very appropriate too.

Hmm, I guess.
Well in moral and ethical terms ingesting blood can be considered cannibalism right? (Of course in that case I've eaten myself tons of times since when I get a nose bleed (happens often) I occasionally swallow some blood while tilting my head backwards while moving towards the bathroom for paper.) (By the way, why the HELL are they drinking blood? It's disgusting and leaves this weird dry feeling in my throat)
But then again, this is fallout game after all, were morals and ethics were gone with the nuclear blasts.

Well if you guys really want to talk about the ethics of cannibalism in the Wasteland, I've already made a thread about it in the Fallout Universe forum here-

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1111324-is-cannibalism-really-bad-in-the-wasteland/

Let's keep this discussion on ghosts in Fallout now. Don't know how it got to be vampires, etc.

I guess it depends on you're morals. I think it was you that said that the family are cracked in the head and they don't call themselves cannibals but just going by the definition of cannabal from what I can find. It's the eating the flesh of you're own kind. Does not say about drinking blood. Can drink someones blood without causing harm. Can't really eat another person without harming/killing them. So which is worce?

I'd say drinking blood is considerably less bad. Neither requires the "donor" to die but one carries with it definitive mutilation. Either could involve the death of the "donor" though.

The thing is cannibalism is used historically in dire times for survival. People don't need to consume blood to survive, consuming much of it will make you sick. Granted there is a condition that is made better with the consumption of blood...but it's pretty damn rare and it doesn't have any of the mythological traits of vampirism.

PS World War Z is an awesome book

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCHFVTQKqdQ is your payment for starting this thread. Please, enjoy.

Ever seen the soviet adaptation of the short story? Creeped me out so bad when my teacher showed it to me a few years back.

Soviet version of "There Will Come Soft Rains?"

Problem with that is not everything is good for game play. Ghost I don't see harming canon but other things can. If a game goes against what the others established as lore then it's harming canon. If something changes the entire core of the game it goes against canon. In this case the ghosts in Fallout 2 don't do this but to keep things civil It would just be best to keep them out or to a very small part. Fallout has enough conflict among it's fans does it not?



Agreed

Yeah lemme find a youtube link.
EDIT:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIM94HsC_kU

Not with the Hematophage Perk, blood is safe.

For an added bonus, check its icon.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Hematophage

I hope that there will be Poltergeists in the game.

Well, Bethesda owns Fallout now. Fans can change with the times. Not talking about ghosts and aliens specifically, but in general.