So I'm a little let down FO4 is once again set in a bland brown and rubbled setting in Boston, which is known to be cold as hell and snowy. I expected a nuclear winter here, but I was once again shown basically the Mohave Wasteland again.

Bethesda please on the next Fallout game, if you place it up north where it can snow, make it actually snowy at least in some parts of the map? Your backgrounds are getting repetitive.

(spoken with love and salt)

If the nuclear apocalypse didn't cause global desertification, it at least massively changed the climate. The Commonwealth kinda looks like parts of Arizona, to be honest.

As Box Man said: climate change. All the characters mention "Getting out of this god-damn heat" even in the winter months. Notice also that there's really no change of seasons either.

Just dirty rain, radiation storms, dust, and heat. Welcome to the post-apocalypse.

Patrolling the Commonwealth almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter?

I know right? I live near Boston it's cold as [censored].

Global Warming. Chinese Super Mutants are growing oranges in Alaska.

Nuclear winter does not imply that there should be snow. That is not what 'nuclear winter' means lol

There is a very logical explanation within the lore for this. The nuclear war basically resulted in a global climate shift, resulting in essentially a year round summer. You're not going to see snow in a Fallout game because the canon explicitly states that this doesn't happen anymore.

From the Wiki -


"The nuclear exchange that characterized the Great War lasted for only a brief two hours, but was unbelievably destructive and reshaped the climate of the world even as it caused the fall of most of human civilization everywhere across the globe. More energy was released in the first moments of the Great War than all of the previous human conflicts in the history of the world combined. Entire mountain ranges were created as the ground buckled and moved under the strain of the cataclysmic pressure produced by numerous, concentrated atomic explosions. Rivers and oceans around the world were contaminated with the resulting radioactive fallout released by the relatively low-yield nuclear weapons used by all sides, and the climate changed horrifically. All the regions of Earth suffered from a single, permanent season once the initial dust blasted into the atmosphere by the nuclear explosions had settled – a scorching, radioactive desert summer."

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Great_War

NV has snow


http://www.mtv.com/news/wp-content/uploads/multi/2010/08/falloutnewvegas_marcus.jpg

i'm not let down, there was too much snow in skyrim, i'm fine with the no snow part.

Like the mohjave, except that whole bottom of the map swamp.


Not seeing desert at all, here. Just doesn't happen to be any snow. Ironically, there is snow in NV.

Here is the snow

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/5810/?

at least a little bit

As the lore said, the Great War pretty much turned the entire world into a scorching desert.

New Mexico, NOT Arizona. Arizona is the most beautiful state in the union.

Arizona is also a wasteland now

At least it rains.

It would be pretty tiresome to play a game for 100s of hours and see snow all the time ^^

Not to mention how much it would limit modding, by completely disabling the option to have leaves and bushes in the world.

this thread has to be a joke

This. There were snowy mountains in NV, so I am disappointed that the Commonwealth has no snow.

Is there any lore which says that the Commonwealth was hit much harder than the Mojave?

Mr House tried to keep Vegas when the bombs fell. He was more or less successfull. I highly doubt though that would prevent the typical post-nuclear weather given the scale of the climate change.

Because nuclear winter means there will fall irradiated snow???? What the Mutfruit am I reading What do they teach people at schools.

Nuclear winter means that a lot of dust/debris flies up into the air, from all the explosions cause by nukes.

This would be swept around the globe because winds. And that said dust blocks sun going into our atmosphere, this will cause less warmth & sunlight for us on the earths' surface. Hence it would be colder, like in the winter, but most importantly it will become very dark on the surface. Plants will die because they could receive no sunlight at all etc.

true, but keep in mind an average global change in temps of about 2-4 degrees Celsius caused the last ice age that covered half of North America in glaciers. It doesn't take much

NO MORE DUCKING SNOW!!!!! oh man im sick of it even the [censored] dlc's for skyrim had snow! I cant believe people want that garbage again GOD IF I SEE EVEN AN ONCE OF SNOW BY SHOR'S BONES PREPAIR YOURSELF BETHESDA!!!!

I love the snow in Skyrim. Please me walking with my barbarian, playing the macho shirtless in the midst of all cold.

Well considering you can walk to the exact site of nuclear detonation I'm pretty sure it was hit harder than the Mojave. I also felt like I read somewhere that the Mojave was spared by the effects of the bombs because there were no nearby detonations; which is why it became so "successful" compared to DC or the CW.

I don't give a flying hoot about all these "why it's hot as hell in Boston" lore explanations. Because just as there are explanations as to why it's hot, there are also a ton that explain why it should be cold and sunless.

Nuclear winter is more of a blanket of sheet of soot and ash and dust and all that jazz covering the earth's atmosphere, which would lower the temperature by a drastic amount. It was estimated that such an atmosphere changing event would have easily lasted several decades. So nearing 100 years is possible, and since FO4 is 220 after the bombs fell it could have just been a recent generation that has begun to see the sun again.

There is the possibility of nuclear summer, however that is far less scientifically supported than "winter". Both heat and cold are explained, but I still want that [censored] snow. I'm tired of the bland wasteland by now.

The amount of time a Nuclear winter lasts can vary drastically, i remember watching an old British PSA video about what to do in a nuclear attack, it tells you what Nuclear fallout is and how long you should wait before it is safe to go outside. The video states that Nuclear winter can be unpredictable in how long it lasts.

The Nuclear winter in fallout may have only lasted a couple of years, Fallout doesn't remain for thousands of years like radiation does.