http://www.bethblog.com/2011/12/01/skyrim-what-were-working-on/: While the 1.2 update fixed the long-term play issues for most PS3 users, we are aware that is not the case for some. We’ve been reaching out to a number of those users to collect save games, so we can take a look at their specific issues. Right now we know it’s not one thing, but a combination of smaller ones that some folks are seeing, but others are not. Some seem to be the PS3 autosaving in the background (you can turn that off), some may be SPU AI updates, and some may relate to dynamic system memory allocation. These fixes are not in the current 1.3 update that is in final testing, but will be in future ones. We understand how frustrating it can be when your game is having issues, and we thank all of you for your continued feedback and patience. Rest assured we take your gameplay experience seriously and will continue working on this until it’s resolved.

"We take our gameplay seriously"

Yet, this obvious issue that is plagued on PS3 went unnoticed somehow? I highly doubt they didn't know about this issue, or it just again shows how incompetent their game testing is. We already know how lack luster already they test their games if at all from previous titles and even Skyrim. STill to this date, they can't ever seem to fix their old problems. They still have the same problems from the old engine. The Creation engine is a gamebyro engine with make up.

Obsidian confirmed that it's the engines problem and it won't be fixed.. :sadvaultboy:

Obsidian never used the Creation Engine.

The Creation Engine is nothing more than an updated Gamebryo engine.

https://twitter.com/#!/nickbreckon/status/14015054991069184

You have no proof. The game's engine was written by the same people, so it's likely to share the same problems.

You have no proof. The game's engine was written by the same people, so it's likely to share the same problems.

You honestly think that Skyrim's engine is all new? I'm pretty sure that Todd Howard himself stated that it's an updated Gamebryo engine in an interview. Anyone with a grain of sense can tell you it's still the Gamebryo engine. Once the CK is released, we will know for sure, but I can say with certainty that the engine is not all new.

Considering that many of Skyrim's bugs and glitches are the same glitches we saw in Oblivion and Fallout 3, do you really think Bethesda would write a new engine with the same exact problems? Mind you, the save file issue isn't new, it was also experienced in the PS3 version of Fallout 3.

Edit: Also, even if the engine was all new, it wouldn't be "written by the same people", considering Bethesda didn't write the Gamebryo engine, they licensed it for their games.

Again, no proof.

Yes they would include the same glitches, if they didn't know how to solve the problems.

Gamebryo is just a graphics rendering engine. Bethesda wrote their own graphics engine based on what they knew from Gamebryo.

We started hitting that hard right after Fallout 3, so I’d say after the course of the next year and a half it turns out we’d re-written all of this -- look how it looks; we’re not using this anymore; we’re not using that anymore. So that’s when we actually decided to brand it; we should call it something of our own.

But it wasn’t from the get go “we’re going to re-write the whole engine”. It was a priority list and we ended up re-writing more than we thought we were gonna, but it worked out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eokdHSzhAY

This is a video interview where Todd Howard states that the Creation Engine is a rewritten Gamebryo. Fast forward to 3:30 for the statement.

Your defense of Bethesda is getting a bit ridiculous. It is not debatable: the Creation Engine is not "all new".

You should read your own quote.

"we'd rewritten all of this"
"we ended up re-writing more than we thought we were gonna"

You're rage against Bethesda is blinding you to the truth.

Todd states that they'd rewritten "all of this", and then refers to the things they'd rewritten. He then says they rewrote more than they thought they would, but he never says they rewrote every last bit of the engine.

Saying that an engine is "all new" implies it was built from the ground up. Rewriting an engine and slapping a new name on it does not equal "all new".

Todd states that they'd rewritten "all of this", and then refers to the things they'd rewritten. He then says they rewrote more than they thought they would, but he never says they rewrote every last bit of the engine.

Saying that an engine is "all new" implies it was built from the ground up. Rewriting an engine and slapping a new name on it does not equal "all new".

Notice, he also never said they used old code from Gamebryo.

Todd states that they'd rewritten "all of this", and then refers to the things they'd rewritten. He then says they rewrote more than they thought they would, but he never says they rewrote every last bit of the engine.

Saying that an engine is "all new" implies it was built from the ground up. Rewriting an engine and slapping a new name on it does not equal "all new".

Every engine is simply an updated version of another engine except in the extremly rare cases. So in this industry that is "all new". Welcome to the gaming industry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eokdHSzhAY

This is a video interview where Todd Howard states that the Creation Engine is a rewritten Gamebryo. Fast forward to 3:30 for the statement.

Your defense of Bethesda is getting a bit ridiculous. It is not debatable: the Creation Engine is not "all new".

Off topic a bit, but in the video, Todd mentions that porting mods to the xbox is possible with some sort of kit? Couldn't clearly understand what he says but anyone know?