It will only hurt sales if they admit wrong doing now and besides I'm sure their big fat pay checks from EA came with a no slander clause. That my friend is the main thing that sets Bethesda apart from every other multi-million dollar company in the industry and why Todd Howard is in charge of the whole shebang. So long as they continue to operate this way it's only a matter of time before Zenimax achieves world domination on the level of Microsoft.

I agree. Bethesda is in a good place right now.

Lets put our hype hats on :intergalactic:

I agree, DAO was a modern classic, DA2 is just "meh" in comparison, and disappointed me.

If anything this year is going to give Skyrim a run for its money, it will be The Witcher 2 (which is the other game I'm looking forward to in 2011!) I have higher expectations of Skyrim and hope it will outclass anything else released this year, but TW2 does look as if it's going to be great. Totally different games of course, what with one of them being a chapter RPG and the other being open world, so hard to compare them, but I am betting that Skyrim will be my #1 game this year, with TW2 coming in a well-deserved second.

If I do (as hoped!) get 2 fantastic yet very different RPGs in one year, it will make this year outstanding in terms of gaming. So I'm hoping they both live up to expectations, and show that more complex RPGs can shift units and be popular without compromising their standards.

I also thought DAO was awesome, but I took heed after the "streamlining" of ME2 and passed on purchasing DA2. Glad I did now.

As for Skyrim, yeah this is the biggest game release since, well, Oblivion. :tes: Beth is getting up there to the point of other studios like Blizzard where they don't even have to hype their own game. The media and the fans will do it for them. ^_^ All we need now is a yearly "Bethcon" and we're all set.

Quakecon is now shared with Beth, isn't it?

It's not really a Crpg but yeah...well either is the witcher 2 but yeah both will be great and take up epic amounts of time.....


And both will have mod tools full fledged tools.

Of course, the difference there is that ME2, while it wasn't quite as good as ME1 in some respects, certainly didn't svck. :shrug:
(and it was better in a few small ways. Still prefer 1 to 2, by a slight margin.)

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As for the main topic.... yeah, I'm thinking Skyrim will be a pretty good game.

But, honestly - I learned a long time ago not to have such high expectations for things. It just leads to disappointment, because once you hype yourself up that much? Nothing can ever live up to your hopes.

I liked both Mass Effect one and two equally. I would have prefered one but the stupid mako and the copy and pasted planet exploration made me rip my hair out. (Well the hair I could find to rip out).

I do not like when EA chops up my game and sells it back to me in pieces. :facepalm:

We have quake con its like beth con but more John Carmack and ID. Plus it wont sound Like a convention for women named beth.

Now this is quite the optimistic comment, considering we're still early in the decade. I won't touch ME3 with a 10 stick until I get some decent reviews from people that actually know what they're talking about.

Good point. I'll settle with the most dissapointing game of the year. Unless Bioware and EA decide to screw up Mass Effect 3 as well...

It better come with the Asari Hanhar porm game or I walk. Less gray metal interiors too please,half the game looks like its sad to exist in. I bet thats the reason the reapers want to wipe them out that and gears of war shader after effects.

I did not know that. :thumbsup:

Was still a good idea. :tongue:

Yep,I believe pete said skyrim would be at quake con."we bring all our game's" was more like it. I hope they have a brink tournament this year.

The pretentious remake of System Shock 2? People are looking back on it not so fondly. Portal is universally acclaimed and opposition of is met with swarms of people who are fans going against it. Most people speaking against Bioshock garner maybe a small trashcan fire fight. Portal derision is an all out flame war.

I believe that's exactly what he said.

:meh: you must be a teacher's pet, i never see someone svck up to someone like this before. i personaly love the potential skyrim has but you cant even speak of what people realy want in skyrim, you will just get blocked and warnings

I have yet to preorder cuz im sure they'll be a collector's edition.

I feel like Im gonna be meeting up with an old friend when skyrim comes.

first thing I'll do is read the books.. see what tamriels been up to the last 200 years.

There is no over exaggeration or fan boyism when I state that this is the only game that has ever been created that has the level of depth, gameplay, animations, physics, and graphics involving a dragon/dragons. The most sophisticated, most interactive dragons done in video game history period. This is a fact, this game is going to svck more hours of my life then any other singleplayer RPG ever created and that too . .is a fact.

That above statement really applies to the whole game itself but, omg the dragons :mohawk: !

EDIT: Did I mention the physics in the game? Oh yes I did, did I mention a new engine just built for this game?, did I mention a team solely dedicated to designing dragons for years for this game?

EDIT: :tes:

Angry Birds already did that. End of discussion.

Yeah right, who am I kidding?

Skryim will definitely be the top game of the past 5 years and the future 4-5 years, depends how fast BGS makes a new TES/FO.

Shrud，agreed！

Just because a game has a valid point to make, doesn't make it pretentious. It deserved all of it's acclaim, mainly because none of it praised the shooter aspect, which was one of the worst and most dated systems in recent memory. That it could still be so universally loved despite that, is testamate to it's strength in writing and atmosphere, and while it's differently overrated (What AAA isn't though?) I don't think it really had any unwarranted self importance.

No, that honor belongs to Bioshock 2. That was a pretentious game. Thinking just sticking you in a Big Daddy suit and giving you "teh uber leet powerz dawg", while cutting all the things that made the original great, was the way to follow the original, is pretentious!

Portal? Definitely a better game though. Combines Bioshocks Strength of writing, with some of the funnest puzzle based gameplay (Hell, gameplay period) ever. Portal 2 on the other hand, I fear for Bioshock 2 syndrome. A direct sequel to an innovative masterpiece is doomed for (relative) failure from the start. People are going to jump in with memories of Portal, and everything I've seen so far, seems like nothing more than fan service. Again, shadowing Bioshock 2's descent from the original.

Elder Scrolls games have never been a direct sequel of the previous. The game is always reinvented, for better or worse, you really get an entirely different experience, and that's why I feel Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, will still be the smash of the year. RAGE might be a contender too, there's a punishing lack of new IP's, so if ID, now under the Bethesda flag, can deliver something spectacular, even more so than Skyrim, I'm all for that.