I agree, loving this game so much, favourite in the TES Series and I have played each one including Arena! 70 hours in and haven't even started the MQ, infact apart from sidequests the only main guildline I have started is the Companions and I am only 3 or so in even then!

You say immersing yourself, well I have explored and explored my heart out, already found 135 places of interest! Fantastic world to get lost in ty Bethesda

I don't think I've seen anyone say outright that they hate the game, but there's bound to be some.



Those lazy people are probably not even aware that the main quest isn't even the longest or most engaging questline Skyrim has to offer.

Then why are you here? Trolling? Someone loves the game and you have to rain on their parade? Good on them, why do some people have this great need to ruin the positive vibe of a thread? Heck there is enough negativity from some members of this community without ruining threads like this! The whole gaming community and Metacritic must be fan-boys then, if not then it wouldn't have scored so well, thats right you are right everyone else is wrong...

Let the guy express himself.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't fan-boys just fans that border on obsession by purchasing any and all merchandise pertaining to their chosen subject? If that's the case, then aren't we all fan-boys; given that I have yet to see or hear of any other Skyrim merchandise.

Yes I have the power to stop someone from expressing themselves.

I've read to much negative things about Skyrim lately... So i too put my voice on here in a positive way...
It's the best role-playing game i've ever played, and i still have "some" hours to go
Have a good one all...

I just backed up my save quit my main warrior about 75% through the main quest and not doing thief / dark brotherhood which I just started with a thief char. When I do DB / Thief quests and get to the same point in the main quest, i'll reload my main again and finish.

That should give me another 3 weeks before I finish the game :celebration:

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It's perhaps not a coincidence everyone saying the game is 100% perfect is just now registering, Ive been playing since morrowind and have been on the forums since a few months pre-release OB (had to make a new account once because I forgot the pass on my old one, but all the same), it is all really coming off as excited inexperience, perhaps I would be more inclined to be forgiving if I was allowed to finished the MAIN QUEST on my game, how could they release a game without play testing the main quest?

Pros:
Awesome graphics (for an open world game)
improved physics and evolution on some ideas
more warrior options (than OB at least)
like the new perk system
Im actually a fan of the new casual levelling system, I got way too tired of smart-levelling
real time conversations
Necro-Magic!
dragons!
it's TES!

Cons:
game-ending bugs
horrible graphics for snow (looks like the fuzzy tool in paint, you'd think a game comprising mostly snow would at least make the snow look good) (and yes, I have a PC working on full blast, Radeon 6950 OC'd like crazy)
drastically less magic user options ( I played sword and board first and waited with such an anticipation to play a mage, my main quest bugged and I said whatever heres a chance to start a mage I guess, at least Ill have fun with that, then I see the pitiful options for destro, alteration and illusion and almost cry)
way over simplified attributes
noticeably missing acro/athletics (especially for my assassin khajit, who should be jumping roof to roof but is stuck moving slower than an orc)
awful quest writing (not in every quest and quest-line, but too many as it is)
short quest lines
claustrophobic cities
hearing the same dialogue over and over ( especially when it is misplaced, IE being the leader of the companions and hearing the same insults from when I first joined)
dragon spawn rate is ridiculous( even when not fast travelling, I would have liked an option at the end to kill off all the dragons or something, they just start looking like annoying fly's after a while)
Wolves every 3 seconds on the road, even my 11 year old nephew, whos never heard of TES until I let him play last weekend, got tired a wolves only of few hours in (it was funny hearing him though, "Hmph wolves?, I already know I can kill you!")
too many fan boys on the forums saying it is flawless (cant blame the game I guess)

Agreed. When you compare the number of people complaining to the millions upon millions of copies sold you realize how pointless it is to hose down this board with all this anger. So you don't like it, keep it to yourself, because your only reaching a tiny fraction of the millions and millions of people who play this game, and most of the people who do hear your infantile whining really don't care and are tired of seeing it. I'm sure Beth knows this, and ignores you like the small child throwing a tantrum that you are.

I was getting a little intense there, until I took an arrow to the knee...

I've seen many people complaining about that, but i ahve the opposite problem. 20+ hours with the current character and i've only killed the first storyline dragon. I saw another one but it didn't want to fight me (and this was with 1.2 patch).

As for the topic at hand, just the (lack of) magic alone makes me want to cry. What happened to Silence, Feather, Water Walking, Water Breathing, Cure Disease, Cure Poison, Fortify attribute, Chameleon, etc., etc...

Sure vanilla Skyrim is better than vanilla Oblivion, but it needs extensive modding to achieve anything close to the "perfect" status.

I'm not going to bash anyone for liking Skyrim the way it is, I mean i've spent 120 hours on it myself and I would be insane to do that if I didn't find some enjoyment in the basic experience... But the amount of ignorance here in the dismissal of criticism as "people finding imperfections and whining endlessly about them" is astounding. It's far from a perfect game and most criticism, no matter how much you would prefer your dreamworld where it is the perfect game, is warranted. Simple as.

My favorite, yet heavily flawed to me.

So your saying people who mod the game, are not "true fans" Go back to your bridge.

This game is not flawless.

However it IS the best new release I've played in the whole year, maybe.

Thus, in my eyes, despite the bugs and errors (which weight heavily on my heart) this is the GOTY.

Why? Because the rest of the games released are as incomplete as this one, but aren't as enjoyable and don't look as beautiful as this one.

Ive played 2 games through Deus Ex without a single bug and am 15 hours into Assassins creed right now without a bug, BF3 hasn't given me a bug either, I understand an open world game such as this is magnitudes harder to keep bug free but lets keep it honest, those are not incomplete, skryim was probably rushed to hit 11/11/11

I will agree Skyrim is beautiful though :biggrin:

I just cant see how this game is perfect when there are alot of bugs, less features then previous games of the same setting.

This game is far from perfect, but it is the closest thing to it I have ever seen.

This is what I dont get. The game is very hollow. Very bug filled. How is it even close to perfect?
This is what bothers me the most, is people saying this game is the best ever, etc etc. There is nothing new about this game at all. Its actually less then alot of other games out there.

Expecting magic from past games means one is placing "almost absurd (and maybe even a little bit scary) expectations on this game"? Wow, really?



We do not want an Oblivion clone! We do want the spells the TES is known for to reappear. Change is not always good ya know. Stripping magic down, for whatever reason, is not a change I feel the series needed. I'd love to know the reasoning behind it, as I simply don't get it.



I'll add my voice to the chorus of "No it's not perfect, but it's still a damn fun game"! crowd.

Less than other games? Hmm... can't see it, personally, and I go back to playing games on teletype terminals. I'd say you'd have to give specific examples of other games that offer more for the money than TES games. More overall, that is, not some specific mechanic or content. Todd Howard and Beth in general has repeatedly stated that they do not attempt to be the best FPS or other genre, yet they get into trouble by including all sorts of different elements in their games. They keep doing it because it offers players choices, and thus more for the money.

I'm having a blast and loving Skyrim. I played for hours on PS3 last night and didn't run into a single glitch. That was perfection. Sometimes there are some though and that was expected right after release. The press just announced a game-breaking bug on Zelda. It happens. We deal. It would be nice if people had realistic expectetions but not all do. I'm just keep playing Skyrim because I love it and because it's fun. I don't want them changing it. It offers plenty for everyone and they'll be fixing the problems for the people who are having some trouble playing. That's all.

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No, it's not perfect.
It's actually faaar, faaar away from being perfect.
Fact!

This game is far from perfect but it's good for what it is. Now I hope the mods will do the rest.

It's just an opinion. Just like yours is that it's not even close to perfect.

I don't find the game very hollow at all.. and as for bug filled, well sure, there are a few bugs.. but all of them (that I've experienced atleast) have been totally minor / not game changing in any way. Every game has bugs .

IMO, this game is as close to perfect as you can get. :celebration: